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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:04 PM
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What hate speech did Wright give?
And if you think he did give hate speech, what is your definition of "hate speech"?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:07 PM
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1. He said "God Damn America!"
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 01:07 PM by baldguy
For supporting imperialism & terrorism around the world, but not calling it that because it's politically incorrect for the fascist neocons to admit.

So he obviously hates white people.

:sarcasm:
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:08 PM
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2. Executing a Mentally Retarded Black Man On The Campaign Trail
I'd say that qualifies.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:09 PM
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3. Sigh. Did this story just break yesterday? Honestly.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:11 PM
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4. I would like to know why Pastor Wright considers Israel to be a dirty word.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:11 PM
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14. Anyone?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:12 PM
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5. That the US government deliberately infected African Americans with AIDS
and telling how Hillary has never been poor... I don't think that Obama ever was, either, certainly Michelle was not.

And both Obama and Bill Clinton were raised by a single mom, actually Obama eventually by a pair of loving grandparents who, I don't think were poor, either.

"Hate speech" in my opinion, is a speech that raises the blood pressure of the audience, that finds a target for all real and imagined feelings of injustice, that keeps the audience in the role of victims - who will come again and again to "purchase" the same "merchandise" as any good marketer knows, instead of instilling a sense of pride and, yes, a sense of "yes we can."

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:13 PM
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6. that's not hate speech.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:15 PM
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8. That's nonsense!
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:39 PM
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12. What a demagoguery!
So Americans killed pregnant women when they invaded Granada? Does he have proofs, or, as you suggested, facts?

And if he were in Newark on 9/11 how did he "see" black people jumping to their death from the World Trade towers? (Of course, no white people, only blacks...)

And his so-called "footnote" took the major part of that sermon.

And, of course, you do not dispute his AIDS comment. No, it was not in that speech.

In contrast, to his reaction, this is what Rabbi Brad Hirschfield said on Frontline shortly after 9/11:


I went down, and the experience was unbelievable, because I felt two things simultaneously -- both fully, 100 percent one thing and 100 percent another -- but they were diametrically opposed. There was a piece of me that looked at that site and said, "I'm looking into the face of evil. This is what evil looks like. I don't think in my life I've ever seen it before, and now I have. The response to evil is you fight evil; you destroy evil; and now we will have to go and we will kill and we will destroy until this evil is no more."

and

Then I also felt, at the same moment ... "So maybe it ends here. Maybe it's not about fighting any more, and maybe it's about figuring out what we do next that isn't about a violent response, that is about reaching across the kind of chasms that seem to be opening up between human beings -- that I felt inside myself."

and

At one point, I sat down on the ground, and I just started to cry. I didn't know what else to do. I sat down and started to cry, because -- thousands of people. I know this sounds crazy because I'm not -- I'm being completely inarticulate -- but that was the feeling. What I saw made me feel exactly like how I sound; there are no words, there are no answers. This was the most death I've ever seen, and all those feelings well up inside you.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/faith/interviews/hirschfield.html

No, "Chickens came home to roost," no blaming America for the death of innocent people.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:53 PM
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13. The AIDS comment is not "hate speech," and you are still trying to spin Peck's words as Wright's.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 01:53 PM by ProSense
The thing that seems to escape everyone who desperately want to egg Fox along in their distortion is that the sermon was not "hate speech" and had nothing to do with racism outside the institutional context (the AIDS charge), which no one can deny that institutional racism exists. He did not say white people are racist! He did not say Hillary is racist. Saying that she has not suffered racism is not accusing her of being a racist. And the biggest lie in all of this is that the inflammatory words are not Wright's. The person who spoke those words has not been labeled a racist, and has suffered no consequence for his statement. In fact, that person is enjoying the benefits of his experience as an expert for MSNBC.

This is BS, and the media (and now Hillary) hope that some people will only see the distortion and not the facts.

Hillary should be ashamed!



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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:25 PM
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11. If you watch Wright's sermons to get the full context
of the sensationalized snippets, you would see that

Wright's message is: "Hate the sin"

vs.

Falwell, Robertson, etc. message: "Hate the sinner"



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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:14 PM
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7. Do you expect such a post to be taken seriously?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:16 PM
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9. For god's sakes, enough already. Stop it.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:17 PM
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10. Let it sink?
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