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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:16 PM
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Poll question: How will Hillary's supporters answer if questioned in the GE?
Earlier today I posted a series of problems that have appeared in regard to the Clinton candidacy and asked that her supporters compose solutions to these problems in a way that would convince a previously undecided voter to support Hillary in a GE. I specified that it did not have to convince me and added the caveat that "...but Obama did ..." would not be usable in the answer; this was repeated because Obama will not be Hillary's opponent in a General Election.

I expected no answers from the general run of Hillary supporters but I did expect some of the more principled ones to attempt something. The only attempts at honest I received were from non-committed voters (thank you Sandi_4_Edwards and Drachasor) two of the less fluent members of the Hillary community Uben - who said, quote, "You whole post is based on "but Hillary did". How fucking ridiculous. You ask people not to do exactly what you did." and Perry Logan who used the headline "I've seen all these questions answered. You should have paid attention when you had the chance." and spammed his list of "I hate Obama posts"

Of course I asked Perry again for answers as I have never seen answers to my questions posted - and in any event the answers were not to be aimed at me but to convince future Clinton supporters and voters, he responded with the line "My bad. I didn't realize the Obama supporters are like the guy in "Memento." "

So what were these dreadful questions? I'll list them again;

1) Her IWR vote where she claims that she did not know that a vote for the use of force would actually authorise the use of force

2) Her Kyle-Lieberman vote, which declared part of the uniformed armed services of a sovereign nation to be a terrorist organisation. Like the IWR she claims that this is only to put "pressure" on Iran despite making it legal under US law to launch pre-emptive attacks against those "terrorists"

3) Her employment of Mark Penn who is being paid $5m for being a part-time member of her campaign

3) Her employment of James Carville, who betrayed Kerry and has (presumably with Hillary's consent) called Bill Richardson a "Judas"

4) Her mismanagement of campaign finance which has resulted in her needing to give a loan to her campaign, subsequent large campaign debt and current shortage of funds

5) Her connection with Norman Hsu and his tainted money

6) Her and her husband seemingly regarding McCain as a better choice for president than her Democratic opponent

7) Her and her husband using racial stereotyping to attack her Democratic opponent. This began early in the campaign (see this item from History news Network http://hnn.us/articles/48687.html ) and continued with the MLK and Jesse Jackson remarks (I could not include the link in my original OP because HNN was down)

8) Her misspeak - what others would call lie - about her Bosnia trip

9) Her overstatement of her involvement in White House decision making after the Healthcare fiasco

10) The Healthcare fiasco during her husbands first term

Note I did not include her stance on Nafta/Cafta as that is largely open to interpretation, nor have I asked about her tax records which I am sure she will release in good time for the GE.

Originally I thought that I would hear mainly crickets as very few of the Clinton supporters can formulate substantive arguments to what are difficult questions - but they are the sort of questions that will be asked in a GE so to the substance of my poll

How will Hillary's supporters answer if questioned in the GE?
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:02 PM
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1. I keep looking
but I can't find "This poll is sexist.'
Is it too late to edit?
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