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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:10 AM
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CLINTON IS A LIAR. If you still support her, you support lies and might as well support b*s*, too.
Her lies about the Bosnia trip are indefensible.

Thank goodness she's toast.

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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:12 AM
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1. and her "endorsement" of McCain was defensible?
Sorry, I just passed this threshold weeks ago is all... her Bosnia lies suck too.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:21 AM
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6. Well, no, but THIS is unambiguous to even idiots who blew that off.
All that's left is those who support liars.

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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:29 AM
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36. They'll still try to dismiss this as simply a misspoken mistake.
They'd rather we be lied to going into Iran and Syria.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:13 AM
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:15 AM
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3. They have to keep repeating it to convince themselves.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:20 AM
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5. I honestly hope Hillary fights on just to punish Obamaniacs.
I'm not a Hillary supporter. But this meanspirited crusade against her has ticked me off. Maybe this is Chicago-style politics. I don't like it, and I actually hope she fights back to the bitter end now. I don't like Obama's supporters, as I have witnessed them here on DU. They are naive and cruel. Kind of like Bush supporters.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:23 AM
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9. I'm not an Obama supporter.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 01:23 AM by Zhade
I just hate liars like clinton, and the idiots who apologize for blatant lies like the Bosnia thing.

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:53 AM
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18. LOL
Riiiiiiight
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:57 AM
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21. It's cool. Believe what you wish. You support a proven liar, it's not like I care if you believe me.
I know you might need it to console you, what with clinton's impending exit.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:38 AM
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29. Hillary and her maniacal supporters can fight on as long as they want.
I don't care who you support, but Hillary and her supporters are receiving only a fraction of the crap they heaped on Senator Obama and his supporters here on DU since day one.

I can't stand Hillary, her supporters and people like you who are always starting shit and whining when it hits the fan and flies back on same.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:50 AM
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39. I wonder what the Iraqis think of her mean spirited crusade against them. And her husbands too.
She is the one who is cruel. I can't call her naive because every move she makes is calculated to the nth degree. She was in a position of power to make a difference and instead she used the power to further her own political career. The people be damned.

Millions of Iraqis were killed or starved to death on their watch and you need to come in and bitch about the people who call her out on her horrendous lies? And you think Bush supporters were bad? The cognitive dissonance level required to maintain the opinion that this woman is fit for the most powerful position in the free world is staggering.

She has voted in line with the neocons on every major issue that affects most of our lives. IWR. Kyl-Lieberman. WFRA. Patriot Act. Bankruptcy Bill. Trade Bills. Silent on the Telcoms. And now she wants Greenspan to save us from our economic crisis. The Fox in the Hen House.

And you want her to keep on fighting and tearing apart our country because you don't like the fact that people will not allow another lying, manipulating, callous, unscrupulous politician to sit at the helm?

This is a woman who used her immense power as a Senator to tell me how bad video games were for my boys while voting to send them off to the front lines.

I bet you have a lot of anger worked up for Bush for finalizing all of those little goodies. But so many can't see past this woman's vagina or her husband's "charms" to care about the irreversible damage she has done to our country and others. It's pathetic.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:45 AM
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56. You said it. Wish I could K&R single posts,
because I'd do it to this one.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:18 AM
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45. I'm getting rather tired of it too.
Remember, though, in terms of the whole of DU, the mean-spirited are just a handful. Most of us Obama supporters are not posting stuff like this. :hi:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:22 AM
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8. You wish!
So, you support liars then?

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:38 AM
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13. Selective outrage??
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:42 AM
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16. Look elsewhere, I'm not an Obama supporter. Try again.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 01:43 AM by Zhade
(Oh, and stop pimping the lie in your first link, since the Canadian government confirmed that never happened.)

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:54 AM
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19. Then you are mad at him too?
:rofl:

Selective outrage says it all
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:58 AM
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23. On some things, yes. But not the things clintbots lie about regarding him.
NT!

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:36 AM
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54. They don't get it. HRC's negative campaign of attacks is destroying her
As an Obama supporter I enjoy watching them self destruct. It speaks volumes they can't analyze people's disgust and adjust their game plan.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:38 AM
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:22 AM
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7. Yep - I want to stop lying scumbags like her from trying to steal elections.
I'm *enjoying* pointing out that she's a liar. Deal with it.

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:26 AM
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10. I did not know what my pastor preached
for 20 years.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:27 AM
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12. Yeah, another lie from the clinton camp. Dismissed!
NT!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:41 AM
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:49 AM
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17. You calling Obama a liar?
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:54 AM
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47. You must have an excellent memory
I don't remember every single sermon my pastor preached when I was a kid.
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Flyfish Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:17 AM
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4. I did not have a real estate deal with that woman.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:27 AM
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11. Clinton supporters like lies
or just deny them as a battered wife syndrome,
except this time the analogy goes to their candidate.
The canidate lies or tries to cheat and change the rules
to get its way and the spouse just takes it.

I just want to know when they will rise up?
Folks, the evidence is there, is this what
Feminist want?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:54 AM
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20. oh lordy
you guys need a sedative.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:59 AM
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24. Why? Pointing out that she's a proven liar works fine to calm the nerves.
I *like* helping others see the truth about liars.

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:05 AM
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51. Just like putting Hatebots on Ignore
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:17 AM
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31. Help us out, then...
you obviously have plenty, or you'd be shitting a brick over the Tuzla-NAFTA perfect storm.


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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:28 AM
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35. Oh flunkymonk... must be killin you too see your christ get done over like this...
She'll be a semi decent speaker... deal yo.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:14 AM
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52. my christ?
What a stupid post.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:57 AM
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22. Hillary doesn't know who she is
She lies to make herself seem better than what she actually is. She is a mean-spirited, conniving piece of work who will never be president. She needs to deal with it and get over it like yesterday.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:00 AM
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26. Apparently, her lies are okay with some, but pointing them out is not.
THAT, I don't get at all. Don't they hate having been lied to, too? I would.

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bjnumb9 Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:00 AM
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25. yup yup.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:00 AM
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27. She's lied quite a bit about the Bosnia story! Must see youtubes.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/25/223848/497/804/484307

I heard her explain how she greeted the girl and then ran off but now there is more footage of her mingling and getting in group photos. SOME SNIPER FIRE!!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:36 AM
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28. It was the "SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA"....
that made me hnow that her other three fingers were point at herself.


She is toast!


K and R
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:01 AM
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30. Obama IS the LIAR!
FAKE speech on Race...as IF!He went on National TV ...stated he never heard nor remotely knew about his ReV Wright's hate sermons. Not something he was ever in 20 years aware of. However, MOST of his precious moments of his life were shared with Wright, married Michelle and Barack, baptised their children, and Barack Obam decided at 43 to run for the president of the US..Rev Wright was to be apart of the announcement and gala celebration. Well, THAT never happened . In Rev Wright's own words, 15 mins before due to appear and make national public announcement...he was asked by Obama to not EVEN ATTEND...SHOW UP, Because he was too controversial...too harsh. He knew Rev. Wright would be a liability and has been hiding that fact until this story broke. Then he HAS to come up with some OVERDUE speech on race(AS IF!!!) bold face lying to America..."Did I ever hear Rev Wright make ______ statements....YES!" He just told us 2-3 night;s prior...NO! HE is a LIAR with an agenda.




Factcheck: Hillary and Bosnia
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Hillary recently misspoke about her trip to Bosnia. She accurately describes the trip in her book, Living History:

'Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac…' "Security conditions were constantly changing in the former Yugoslavia, and they had recently deteriorated again. Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac with local children, though we did have time to meet them and their teachers and to learn how hard they had worked during the war to continue classes in any safe spot they could find. … We were then off to the fortified American base at Tuzla, where over two thousand American, Russian, Canadian, British, and Polish soldiers were encamped in a large tent city."
Contemporaneous news accounts confirm that Hillary’s trip to Bosnia was a dangerous situation:

Hillary’s trip to Bosnia marked the first time since Eleanor Roosevelt that a first lady traveled to a potential combat zone. Accompanied by singer-songwriter Sheryl Crow and comedian Sinbad, Mrs. Clinton traveled to this northwestern Bosnian town on a morale-boosting tour for the 18,500 U.S. troops participating in the NATO-led peacemaking operation. She heard a poem of peace from a Bosnian girl and praised U.S. troops for 'showing what American leadership is.'…This trip to Bosnia marks the first time since Roosevelt that a first lady has voyaged to a potential combat zone. During World War II, Roosevelt toured the devastated streets of London and the southwestern Pacific, bringing cheer to U.S. troops.
Hillary was 'protected by sharpshooters' in a 'military zone' when she visited troops in Bosnia. "Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Rodham Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday to deliver a personal 'thank you, thank you, thank you' to U.S. troops. 'They're making a difference,' the first lady said of the 18,500 Americans working as peacekeepers in Bosnia. Mrs. Clinton became the first presidential spouse since Eleanor Roosevelt to make such an extensive trip into what can be considered a hostile area, though others have visited hot spots…"
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:23 AM
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32. "Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Rodham Clinton swooped...
into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday..." You really don't recognize political hype, do you? "Military zone" could mean "very well protected" - couldn't it? The phrase "Potential combat zone" immediately followed by "Accompanied by singer-songwriter Sheryl Crow and comedian Sinbad," doesn't give you a clue? To quote Hillary, "Let's get real."
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:24 AM
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33. From what I recall
Obama stated that he didn't hear those particular sermons. I also recall that Obama said that on occasion he told Pastor Wright that he didn't agree with certain statements. Am I mistaken in this?

Did he really say that he never remotely knew about Wright's controversial statements? Do you have a link to a quote, because I don't remember Obama saying that.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:09 PM
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57. go find your link at msnbc or you tube..use your key words...
everyone knows this! The night after the story broke...Obama went on 3 networks and said He had NEVER heard anything about or like those statements in his entire years there...KO interview I think !!!!!!! In fact there was a video posted here right after the speech...and YES Obama...LIED! TO THE NATION! Fake.. scripted.. cover his ass speech! CHEAP!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:48 PM
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58. Go Edify yourself!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:27 AM
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34. As scandals go, I sure wouldn't trade it for the Wright fiasco.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 05:32 AM by Perry Logan
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:33 AM
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37. yeah right. Obama handled himself very well and that is put behind him.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:43 AM
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38. yea.. he only turned it into a Speech our children be learning in schools for a hundred years...
sad for you ; ;
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:05 AM
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40. Hmm, confront the problem and speak to the citizens like adults or tell them to go to bed cuz Santa
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 06:06 AM by JTFrog
is on his way.


I'll see your Wrightgate and raise you a Snipergate, a Naftagate, and a Sir Edmund Hillarygate.

Do you think Hyperbole Hill still has a shot at a majority spot? I will take bets on that too :)





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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:12 AM
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41. It is time for Obama to take this opening and
deliver the knock-out blow.

C'mon Axelrod, I know you have it. Now is the time to use it.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:15 AM
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42. Hillary is a republican
fuck that lady.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:16 AM
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43. Yada, Yada
Al Gore was a "liar" too. And John Kerry.

Barack will be too, soon enough.

Ask the RW media outlets.... any of 'em.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:16 AM
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44. such hyperbole. Try this:
If you support politicians, you support lies and might as well support b*s*, too.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:21 AM
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46. LOL! You really don't know that ALL politicians (and humans) are liars.?
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 06:23 AM by glenhappy
Now, when my kid was very little, I told her lying was always wrong. When you get older, you realize that lying isn't always bad, and that there are many shades and colors of lies. Clinton's statements are by far, not the worst lies, but maybe they aren't easily dismissed either. But she is human, at least.

Now let me let you in on a little secret for adults. All humans lie. Politicians, especially, all lie, even Obama. I think the straightest shooter I ever saw was a nutcase named Ron Paul.

I assume you are over 5 so I can tell you these things.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:57 AM
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48. Obama lied also about...
...his not viewing any controversial messages from his so-called "pastor." How is he any different from Hillary?
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:58 AM
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49. Hey she was tired okay!
Stop picking on Hillary. She didn't get enough sleep before she lied to us!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:58 AM
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50. Obama has 'lied', by your own standard. You must support those lies.
He LIED, by your standard, when he failed to acknowledge over $150,000 in funds raised for him buy Rezko. And, by YOUR standard, he LIED when he said that Rezko's only involvement in the purchase of his home was a passing reference to the property. He later revealed they had, in fact, done an extensive walk through of the property together.

And, by your standard, Obama LIED when he claimed his 2002 speech was made 'in the midst of a Senate campaign' when he hadn't even yet declared he was in the running for the seat.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:32 AM
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53. Yes, and as a Clinton supporter...
I am also unpatriotic, a Freeper, a disrupter, and a traitor. You "might as well" say that, as say that everyone who supports Hillary "might as well" support Bush.

Oh, goodie. Another member of my Ignore List.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:38 AM
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55. LEEEEAVE HILLARY ALOOOOONE!!!!!!!!
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