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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:11 AM
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MSNBC: Gore/Clinton ticket or Gore/Obama?
Details coming up, I will edit after the commercial break.

Gore Clinton will NEVER happen.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:13 AM
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1. Agreed- too much bad blood between them. Interesting that this has made it to MSM news now-
it's been floating around the on-line news sites for about a week so I suppose it was time. Wonder if CNN is covering it as well- anyone see this anywhere else besides MSNBC?

(I love the idea of a Gore-Obama ticket).
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:13 AM
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2. I just saw that and spewed my coffee for the 2nd time this morning.. WTF is going
on?? Evidently the DNC is floating A LOT of stuff to the media.

Wow. Something's getting ready to happen.. this is just foreplay :-)
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:14 AM
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5. Wait KG
are they suggesting Gore in the top spot?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:15 AM
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8. Yes, they are. But the congressman who suggested it is now
downplaying what he said.. its strange. He's saying its a possibility if the convention is brokered.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:21 AM
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28. I have to tell you
Gore has ALWAYS been my first choice, then Kerry, then Edwards and now Obama-the good news has always been this for me though-I see no fall off in my succession of those I supported to who I NOW support. Label me a happy democrat-you know as long as I don't have to vote for....oh you know
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rainman99 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:07 AM
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41. I actually sent Gore a letter 2 years ago begging him to run.
It was before we even knew that Clinton or Obama were running
but he still is the best choice to beat McCain.
He didn't vote for the war, he has the experience,
he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet.
And sorry folks, but I'm not in this to see my
favorite personality or agenda met, I want
to BEAT THE REPUBLICANS AND TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:16 AM
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11. Mahoney is, but I don't think the rest of the country
who voted for BO will just led the Dems put Gore on the top of the ticket. JMHO.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:18 AM
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18. I don't think so either.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:27 AM
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35. Um, yeh. I'd have a thing or two to say about that.
See, this is the problem we're going to have with the next primary four weeks away. The MSM has nothing to talk about, so to fill time, they want to play "What If" FantasyLand.

I love Al Gore to pieces, but usurping the votes of millions of Democrats to put him on the top of the ticket isn't exactly democratic, and would surely be rejected by Gore himself.

This is just really getting sooooooooo stupid.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:54 AM
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37. Hey Pinocchio!
LOL. Great avatar. :hi:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:13 AM
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42. Hee hee!!
Thanks! I've had it for a few days now. ;-)
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:07 PM
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53. I wonder what makes you think...
they'll ask us what we think? Just sayin'
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:14 AM
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3. It's the Tim Mahoney thing again.
Brokered convention, etc.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:15 AM
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6. Yeah, he is on now, he said he is being misquoted.
He thinks the Dems would accept a Gore-led ticket.

I think he's wrong.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:17 AM
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14. I think the majority of democrats want Obama at the top.. I think we just need to get
Hillary out of the race ASAP to stop the damage being done all around.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:18 AM
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19. Amen to that.
Not.Soon.Enough.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:23 AM
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29. Many of us are simply willing to *SETTLE* for Obama.
The bumper sticker on my car still says "Gore 2008".

(It was covered briefly by an "Edwards 2008" sticker,
but it's been back for a while now.)

Tesha
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:16 AM
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10. says he didn't realize he was a super delegate until this started to unfold.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:17 AM
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13. says he can't speak for Gore but it's a potential outcome
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:14 AM
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4. Without Obama
somewhere on the ticket we lose.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:15 AM
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7. Watching...
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:15 AM
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Has anyone asked Gore what he thinks about all this?
I'm pretty sure he would like some say in the matter
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:53 AM
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45. Your making too much sense!
:hi:
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:15 AM
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9. Gore/Obama or Obama/Gore would be great for me...
... I don't know why Gore would want to be vice president again he doesn't even seem that interested in president anymore.

But, aren't all avenues to the Dem nomination closed to Gore now?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:17 AM
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15. Brokerered convention
and one (or both) of them would have to think it was a good idea and endorse him.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:20 AM
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26. I really don't think Gore would agree to VEEP again; also wouldn't want the co-VP of Clinton&Clinton
having Bill Clinton with his fingers in every pie would not work for Gore, methinks.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:08 AM
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46. Maybe I don't really know what "brokered" means....
... won't the delegates vote and that will be that? I had thought brokered means no one is walking in with the required number of pledged delegates.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:06 PM
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52. Brokered = Deals can be made made
Pledged delegates can be bought or sold to come to the "other side" or all of them can round up and select someone entirely different. It's a fiasco, in other words.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:16 AM
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12. Since when is MSNBC doing "Pop-Up News"?
:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf: anyone else see that? that was weird.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:17 AM
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16. Didn't you get the memo, MTV bought them out.
:rofl: :rofl:

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:18 AM
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20. LOL
Next are they going to start putting little animated thought balloons on people's heads? :eyes:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:20 AM
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25. Oooh. I want to see the balloons and the real thoughts in
Hillary's scheming brain. She starts to remind me of Cheney, sort of.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:17 AM
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17. Gore/Obama was my original dream ticket
Don't think many people would take lightly the idea that he never ran and was handed the nomination. That's kinda goes against what's supposed to happen in a Democracy. So it would be setting a dangerous precident.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:19 AM
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22. Agreed. That would be bullshit.
Talk about pissing off the people! Let's bring in the white guy!
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:10 AM
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47. Mine too, but I agree it would be bad now
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 11:10 AM by Drachasor
I called it "Gorebama!"
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:19 AM
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21. that's called the MSM manufacturing news which they then can report
as "news".

It's a lot of hot air.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:19 AM
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23. On Intrade, the most likely VP for Obama is Gore.
I would not discount this as "irrational exuberance"? Al could be just the right balance at the right time. I really hate to make the comparison, and Lord forgive me, but he could be Obama's Cheney.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:21 AM
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27. I just don't see why Gore would want to be Veep again?
No way. He's got his mission.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:25 AM
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32. The nation's calling could be too great for him to resist.
He's a patriot and a loyal Democrat.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:20 AM
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24. The odds of this happening are virtually nil
though I've always liked Al Gore. I remain convinced Obama will be our nominee and I don't think Gore wants to be a VP again.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:24 AM
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30. I never say never in politics
but I don't see Gore-Clinton.

I realize this concept is not popular with the die-hard supporters of either frontrunner, but it's becoming increasingly clear to me that the leadership of both parties (not just us) want a do-over. We have a clear do-over path; if neither Obama or Clinton get a first ballot nomination, the convention (IMHO) will likely turn into a free-for-all. A Gore nomination then becomes a real possibility.

The GOP, OTOH, will have to convince McCain that they don't want an old, 1-termer, and that he should step aside for "reasons of health"; otherwise, someone, somewhere in the GOP smear machine has dirt on him, I'd bet.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:26 AM
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34. Hell noes! that won't happen.
Never. Gore won't put himself back in that dysfunctional situation. He's too smart.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:45 AM
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36. I'll grant that he's making money hand over fist
I think if the convention goes multiple ballots, but looks like it will make an orderly march to one frontrunner, Gore doesn't enter the equation. However, if you've seen GD:P lately, that should give one pause. This could be the convention, played out on live TV -- a disordrerly, ugly flame war that will yield a crippled candidacy. There are only 2 ways to avoid this:

1. The two frontrunners, in whatever order you care to place them, form a unity ticket. Great idea, but neither want to come in 2nd.

2. Gore. Gore is exciting because he's been out of the game for 8 years and he should have won in 2000. He's experienced, but can establis himself as an outsider. He has money, he has name recognition, and he would draw HRC supporters. Put a Gore/Obama ticket together, and you have lightning in a botle. The downsides are: 1) the GE will largely become a debate on whether "Inconvenient Truth" is crap science 2) Gore and the Chinese monks fundraiser comes up again, and 3) He'll have to admit he misspoke about inventing the internet, but at this point - he can just make a joke out of it and move on.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:24 AM
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31. Tipper Gore?
:shrug:

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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:26 AM
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33. Right, I'm sure Al Gore would be
Barry's VP.

:rofl:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:55 AM
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38. That would be more likely than Hillary's VP
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 09:56 AM by 48percenter
:rofl: But neither is likely.

Back atacha! ;)
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:27 AM
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43. You're correct
on both!
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rainman99 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:00 AM
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39. Don't get my hopes up! This would be FANTASTIC!!!!
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rodbailey Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:02 AM
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40. For those interested in Gore
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orangerevolution Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:52 AM
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44. Why oh Why
When we have a chance to move America forward and elect an African American or a woman as president, would we choose a white male?

How will history view us?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:54 AM
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48. I don't know, but if this were to happen there would
be alot of pissed off people and hurt feelings. That's why I think this idea will never fly. :hi:
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:56 AM
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49. Agreed -- it will never happen
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:04 PM
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50. Can you SEE the RW spin on such a scenario?
McCain would be touted as the choice of the people. They would own the "Democracy" card for the first time since 2000. Voters would be outraged and would drop from the Democratic Party like rats from a sinking ship. There would be no defending such a thing.

While it is true that there is no Constitutional guideline when it comes to selecting Presidential candidates, the media will have a stranglehold on the people, convincing them that their vote was stolen and made meaningless, and people would believe it.

Such a thing would doom this party. It is the worst possible thing that could come out of this whole nightmare.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:04 PM
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51. I thought that's what Gobama meant? Gore/Obama!!
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:07 PM
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54. Gore/Clinton=Never hapen. EOM
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:09 PM
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55. How about Obama and who ever he chooses?
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orangerevolution Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:27 PM
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56. How about his Grandma?
to get back in her good graces.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:31 PM
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57. I think the last few weeks have shown the magic is gone
I think the Wright thing has really damaged him in terms of the GE.

At this point, I have doubts that either of our prospects will beat the weakest GOP candidate since Hoover.

Maybe it's Karma for Dewey losing to Truman -- who knows.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:33 PM
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58. Clinton/Gore.
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