Is Gore the solution?

[rodbailey]

Jack Cafferty (CNN) asked the question yesterday: "If a ticket led by Al Gore somehow emerged from a brokered convention, would that be a good thing for the Democrats?" At least 2 super delegates (and maybe a lot more), Representatives from Florida and Texas, know this is being discussed in their circles and at least Rep. Mahoney (FL) thinks it might be ok.

There is a lot of activity centered on a group of us at Democratic Underground (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=260x3294) who are ready to do what we can to move this idea forward if/when it looks like the Democratic Convention is headed for deadlock and even more blood-letting between Clinton and Obama than has already happened. We want to be sure there is a definite winner for the Democratic party come November. With Gore at the top of the ticket, I think we are looking at a Democratic landslide. By the time Hillary finished tearing down Barack, even if he has more delegates than she does, he will be weakened and may not be able to win against McCain.

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[Renew Deal]

1. Gore-Obama is the true dream ticket.

Anything with Hillary is a nightmare.

[Roberto Bear]

37. Nobama

Anything with Nobama on it, will still lose. Not saying Hilliary has to be on ticket, but Nobama and the moderates will still vote McCain.

[LakeSamish706]

2. It might come down to being the only way around this, but I think that it...

disenfranchises many Obama supporters.

[SammyWinstonJack]

This disenfranchised Edwards supporter wouldn't mind at all.

[calimary]

27. Sweet!

This I'm-still-keeping-a-candle-in-the-window-for-Gore supporter wouldn't mind, either.

I've heard the proposal kicked around that would make this happen and give Hillary the Senate Majority Leader position. That would NOT be a bad compromise, I think. And it would still allow BOTH her and Barack to break glass ceilings and boldly go... you get the idea. It would also designate Barack Obama as the heir apparent and undisputed leader to keep the White House in Democratic hands for maybe 16 years.

I'd be VERY comfortable with all that. And at the moment, with no Gore, I'm an Obama supporter.

[Eurobabe]

3. I don't see it happening. America has voted, and there

will be a whole lot of pissed off people if someone puts Al Gore on the top of the ticket.

I don't see Al wanting to be VP again.

Any ticket without Hillary is a good one. :hi:

[Tesha]

4. Yes. Gore-Obama. (NT)

[navarth]

5. I'll check out that site, but I won't get my hopes up. n/t

[npincus]

6. NO- Gore should have entered in the beginning, Obama has EARNED it

and I was/am a huge Gore fan. It would not be fair to Obama or his voters for Gore to knock him down to VP after a year-long campaign and a zillion debates. Nw, I hope Gore is given a (huge) role in an Obama admin.

[Drachasor]

23. I agree. The time for Gorebama has passed.

I wanted him in for that ticket, but it is too late now.

[salbi]

47. I agree, while I deeply respect Gore, he's not running and didn't earn votes

I supported Gore's election. I now support his work on Global Warming. I think he would have made a great president, but he's not running. To switch the winning candidate with him would be a slap in the face to all who voted. If he wanted to be president, he would be in it.

[pbca]

7. It's a nice and persistent rumour

but I don't see it happening.

[hedgehog]

8. Sounds like the MSM is running out of ideas for goosing the ratings . nt

[invictus]

9. Gore exercised extremely poor judgment when he picked Lieberman as VP candidate

Given that, I do not trust his judgment and I do not think he would make a better President than Senator Obama who has the majority of Democratic primary votes.

[OmahaBlueDog]

10. Yes. A Gore/Obama ticket would unite the party...

... and allow him a walk to the WH IF he runs against McCain. I'm convinced the GOP will pull the old switcharoo as well.

[julialnyc]

11. Although it's an idea I don't mind, they would never outright overturn the vote

It would be a disaster....... plus why would Obama agree to this?

[SteppingRazor]

12. I think that would be extraordinarily bad.

Instead of just turning off Clinton voters if Obama gets the nomination, or just turning off Obama voters if Clinton gets the nomination, you turn off all of them. Meanwhile, the press would tear him to pieces within hours, all snarkily wondering what he'd exaggerate about THIS time. By a week after the convention, McCain would be up by 15 points.

At least, that's my first reaction. I'll have to mull it over a bit.

[Schema Thing]

14. ditto

[OmahaBlueDog]

31. OTOH, you might turn all the voters on

And we all need to get through our heads that,if it gets past the 1st ballot, the popular vote is now out the window. The convention's job is then to select the best candidate -- and that person may not be the delegate leader or even one of the two frontrunners.

[IDemo]

13. Sure, why not? I see no problem with disenfranchising millions of voters

Plus, the fact that Gore has not chiseled the word "No" into a marble monolith somewhere does not mean he hasn't made his wishes quite clear.

[LibDemAlways]

15. Has anyone asked Gore about this? He never

threw his hat into the ring in a year in which he would have most likely coasted to the nomination had he decided to run. I would love to see a Gore/anyone (except Lieberman) ticket, but I don't think he wants it. Interesting that it's being bandied about, though.

[iiibbb]

16. Risky

Perhaps in some wonderland he rides in and saves the Dems...

but in my opinion it'd be more like dropping an A-bomb on the party. That is the smokiest of all the smoke filled room decisions that could be made.

[jzodda]

17. NO- Its not the answer because Mr, Gore does not want it right now

He has more then enough to keep himself busy with and has expressed no interest in running for President this cycle. They could offer him the nomination at convention (would not happen) and he would turn it down for certain. He's not in that frame of mind to run right now. This I know from personal and first hand knowledge on his thinking about politics in general these days. He's fairly removed from the process, though he is aware of and does not approve of the infighting. He would not mind playing the healer role thats for sure, but only if asked.

[stray cat]

18. Disenfrachise all voters sounds like a winner to me

[Fire_brand]

19. People forget how terrible of a candidate Gore was

He couldn't even carry Tennessee

[cascadiance]

25. Bush couldn't carry Connecticut either... Look where that got him.

[LWolf]

20. I have said so for almost a year now.

A solution that does not include HRC or Obama; putting one of them on the bottom end of the ticket with him simply continues the bloody war we have going on now.

[orangerevolution]

21. When Future Generations ask Why

When we had a chance to move America forward and elect an African American or a woman as president, why did we choose a white male?

How will you answer?

[Uncle Joe]

30. If that question comes up,

it's because we transcended gender and race considerations, deciding to choose the hands down best qualified person for the most powerful job in the land.

That's how I will answer.

[orangerevolution]

35. While that sounds nice

I don't see that spin lasting for too long.

With so many of us wanting John Edwards, people are going to ask why we did not go for the white guy we all thought would lift this country.

[Uncle Joe]

36. Again you're bringing

race and gender in to the equation, I'm speaking of the best qualified person for the most powerful job in the land during a most critical time in our nation and the world's history.

Having said that I have nothing against Edwards, but I believe Al Gore's credentials, achievements, and experience speak for them selves.

[orangerevolution]

46. From an Historical point of view

things are looked at in terms of race. I am just trying to look at it from that point of view.

I agree that the best person, irregardless of gender or race, should be elected.

[Ian_rd]

22. Hell no! I love Gore but that would be an increadibly dumb thing to do

Gore didn't even run. Therefore nobody has voted for him. I'm worried enough about Hillary trying to subvert the will of the voters with a party coup. So the idea of the party stepping in and inserting someone that NOBODY voted for is beyond crazy. Not only is anti-democratic in the extreme, it's also sure to propel McCain with a landslide as millions of Democratic voters - the ones who voted in the primaries - are disenfranchised.

[KaptBunnyPants]

24. How is Gore going to help?

For Hillary, it's clearly her or nobody. Obama hasn't done anything to make him exceptionally hated by her supporters; they are so spiteful and angry merely because Hillary lost. It's not rational, but they honestly seem to believe that Hillary is owed the nomination and they won't be any kinder to Gore than they would be to Obama. Either way it's not Hillary, so it won't do.

[depakid]

33. He'd help by giving us a winning candidate

rather than a choice among probable losers.

[RestoreGore]

49. Does DIEBOLD mean anything to you?

[Prophet 451]

26. Lovely idea but I can't see it happening

I'd love it. A VP slot for Obama would correct one of my reservations about him (his lack of experiance) and line him up for a shot in either 2012 or 2016 (and he's young enough that he wouldn't be too old by then).

But, I can't see it happening. Gore had made it pretty clear that he's not interested (or at least, not now).

[BklynChick]

28. absoutely not the solution

[JuniperLea]

29. No one here can speak for Gore...

I'd love to see it happen... WITHOUT either current Dem candidate as Veep... I'm so sick of the both of them I could just vomit.

[depakid]

32. He absolutely would be

Whether he'd accept the nomination or not, I don't know. I rather doubt it.

But a deadlocked convention resulting in a compromise candidate- endorsed and campaigned for by both gives us the best chance to win in November.

[NewHampshireDem]

34. Democrats to Democrats

[cameozalaznick]

38. Not gonna happen

Not without the AA vote. They basically laid down a marker in 04 and said it would be THE final time they would support a white male/white male ticket. But now that Obama has done so well, I think they've even moved that goalpost. At this point, they will accept nothing less than Obama at the top of the ticket. LBJ got the AA vote for Dems after the Civil Rights Act and lamented the loss of the south for a generation.

If anybody but Obama is the standard-bearer in 08, we'll have lost the AA vote for a generation.

[Apollo11]

39. Gore Obama would be my dream ticket!

It might be our strongest ticket to go up against John McCain.

If the Convention is deadlocked/brokered, anything is possible! B-)

[crankychatter]

40. nope

absolutely not

if Obama gets the popular and pledged delegate victory, despite falling short of the required amount for nomination at the Convention the same ire will be incurred

The only difference is they'll be hating Clinton slightly less and transferring that rage to the Party

I like Gore though... he'd be a great president now

[tokenlib]

41. Al Gore is a bit busy right now..saving the planet!

I honestly think Al Gore is now doing what he truly wants to do. If he gets a minute or two in a few weeks, I think a lot of people would appreciate it if he would take a moment to stop the Democratic Party from implosion.

But as much as I think he wants the White House---I don't think he'd want it in the way people are suggesting.

If the Super Delegates steal this nomination from Obama---not even Al Gore will able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. And since the world is burning--he really has other things to do--that he does better than anyone.

[nsd]

42. It's not going to happen and it shouldn't happen.

I respect Al Gore a lot, and I would have voted for him had he run. But he didn't and his fans simply have to accept that. These fantasies of Gore riding in to save the day are silly.

No matter how the last 10 contests go, the superdelegates are going to coalesce around one of the two remaining candidates, pushing him or her over the top, as they did for Mondale in 1984.

[2rth2pwr]

43. Why should Gore get any consideration?

He did not throw his hat in the ring, he has not slogged it out for years like the other candidates.

Give it to him?


That would be total disenfranchisement.

[Buzz Clik]

44. It's Wednesday. Must be time to talk about Gore's candidacy. Again.

He's not running.

[kwenu]

45. Gore as the nominee would be unethical. And we'd owe George Bush an apology.

Why would we as Democrats be a part of a sham electoral process after we got screwed in 2000.

[RestoreGore]

48. He doesn't seem to think so...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5295354

So perhaps you all should think about not speaking for him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3070887&mesg_id=3070887