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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:41 AM
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Hillary's List Of Lies (From Dick Morris)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hillarys_list_of_lies.html

The USA Today/Gallup survey clearly explains why Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) is losing. Asked whether the candidates were "honest and trustworthy," Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) won with 67 percent, with Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) right behind him at 63. Hillary scored only 44 percent, the lowest rating for any candidate for any attribute in the poll.

Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here's her scorecard:

Admitted Lies

• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)

Whoppers She Won't Confess To

• She didn't know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?

Why has McCain jumped out to a nine-point lead over Obama and a seven-point lead over Hillary in the latest Rasmussen poll? OK, Obama has had the Rev. Wright mess on his hands. And Hillary has come in for her share of negatives, like the Richardson endorsement of Obama and the denouement of her latest lie -- that she endured sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia. But why has McCain gained so much in so short a period of time? Most polls had the general election tied two weeks ago.

McCain's virtues require a contrast in order to stand out. His strength, integrity, solidity and dependability all are essentially passive virtues, which shine only by contrast with others. Now that Obama and Hillary are offering images that are much weaker, less honest, and less solid and dependable, good old John McCain looks that much better as he tours Iraq and Israel while the Democrats rip one another apart.

It took Nixon for us to appreciate Jimmy Carter's simple honesty. It took Clinton and Monica for us to value George W. Bush's personal character. And it takes the unseemly battle among the Democrats for us to give John McCain his due.

When Obama faces McCain in the general election (not if but when) the legacy of the Wright scandal will not be to question Obama's patriotism or love of America. It will be to ask if he has the right stuff (pardon the pun).

The largest gap between McCain and Obama in the most recent USA Today/Gallup Poll was on the trait of leadership. Asked if each man was a "strong, decisive leader," 69 percent felt that the description fit McCain while only 56 percent thought it would apply to Obama. (61 percent said it of Hillary.) Obama has looked weak handling the Rev. Wright controversy. His labored explanation of why he attacks the sin but loves the sinner comes across as elegant but, at the same time, feeble. Obama's reluctance to trade punches with his opponents makes us wonder if he could trade them with bin Laden or Ahmadinejad. We have no doubt that McCain would gladly come to blows and would represent us well, but about Obama we are not so sure.

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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:45 AM
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1. Mr Toesucker himself....like he doesn't have an axe to grind
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:47 AM
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2. Any of them incorrect?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:51 AM
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7. Doesn't matter, Morris has reduced them to rwing talkingpoints
Thus invoking the foile that protects all Clintons.


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Chicken George Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:50 AM
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4. They'll embrace "Rev" Fred Phelps
if they should find something derogatory he uttered about President and Senator Clinton.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:08 AM
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17. I believe it!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:13 AM
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21. There sems to be a pattern...
Of former Clinton supporters turning against them.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:49 AM
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3. So four insignificant matters and the rest just speculation.
At least she is not painting herself as the personification of hope.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:50 AM
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6. Yes, if Hillary wins I'll admit she has removed all Hope from me!!!
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:55 AM
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10. Four insignificant matters?
I'm sorry, maybe I'm crazy, but I prefer to be in the company of, and to be led by, people who tell the truth. Not people who "make stuff up" when it serves them. Do you think Hillary distinguishes between the little stuff and the big stuff? "No, this is small, so I can lie about it. This on the other hand is big, I better tell the truth."

Lets call it what it is. David Geffen was right. She lies effortlessly. I don't want a leader who lies effortlessly.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:36 PM
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44. selling pardons and trading them for votes is highly significant
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:06 AM
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53. Painting herself....
as the "personification of hope"????

Give the lady a break, she isn't Wonder Woman. She can't paint personification of hope messages and a bullet dodging, running for cover, corkscrew landing, greeting canceling, commando at the same time, now could she? Do you even have a clue how much lack of sleep it took to come up with that Whopper Jr.? Give her some time.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:50 AM
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5. Wow
All I got to say is be careful of pissing of the people who work for you.

Dick's a hack but he got the list of lies down pretty good.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:13 PM
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39. I, for one, am grateful we finally have a
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 04:14 PM by zidzi
list, so far, of hilary's busted lies and the ones she hasn't been busted for yet.

So much for one of her fucking talking points that she's been vetted and all her stinky laundry is out in the open.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:54 AM
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8. As an Obama supporter:
Honestly, I'd rather listen to Hillary Clinton lie than listen to Dick Morris say anything at all.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:58 AM
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14. /signed.
Obama needs Dick Morris like McCain needs Bush.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:00 AM
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16. Im with you on this...Morris? Come on! n/t
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 11:00 AM by here_is_to_hope
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:20 PM
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40.  dick morris is an asshole but
..I don't who has put this list together..others will build on it.

I was sickened by hilary's lies when I heard the clip of her saying, "Now this is what happened." when she was talking about the sniper fire that put her in danger in Bosnia.

She's made a career of lying and she's trying to take the Democratic Party down with her desperate attempts to get her lyin' ass back to the White House at our expense.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:54 AM
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51. I can't argue strongly against that point of view
I just hate Dick Morris and he has a bullshit vendetta against the Clintons. There are plenty of reliable and quote-worthy sources for this list. We don't need to be throwing a bone to Dick Morris, that's all.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:54 AM
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9. Morris? Now there is a credible source!
Man, are you BO surrogates reaching for anything. Desperation? However, if want any info on the art of toe-sucking, he is the man!
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democrat_nanny Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:23 AM
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25. As much as I really don't care for the real BO surrogates
I really don't think we should give these people the honor of being called campaign surrogates.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:56 AM
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11. So we've gotten to the point of citing Dick Morris now?
What's next, Richard Mellon Scaife?

Damn I cannot wait until after the convention.
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:58 AM
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15. Source doesn't bother me; its content that bothers me
Extract the Dick Morris BS and lets take the list alone. It appears pretty accurate. Anyone prepared to refute the list and not the source?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:21 PM
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41. I know, I can't these people complaining
where hilary's fucking lying list is coming from. Jeeze..get off your high horse and read the list!
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democrat_nanny Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:21 AM
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23. Didn't you get the memo about Scaife?
Tim Russert thought it was significant to mention on the NBC evening news last night that the Hillary was interviewed by a paper that was owned by one of Scaife's conglomerates.

3, 2, 1.....Blast off for slandering Hillary for talking to a paper owned by the guy who accused her of murdering one of her best friends.

Stupid Evil Bitch.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:22 AM
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24. funny you should mention Scaife
since hillary granted an exclusive interview to one of his newspapers, the very one that tried to link the clinton's to the death of Vince Foster. talk about desperation.
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democrat_nanny Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:30 AM
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27. Classic
You all would find a way to tear her down if the media did a story on her giving shoes to barefoot orphans.


"ZZZOOOMMGGG!!!! HILLARY IS SOOO EVIL THAT SHE GAVE CHINESE MADE SHOES TO THOSE POOR LITTLE KIDS!!!! BURN THE WITCH!!!"
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:06 PM
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29. nice straw man
she gave an interview to the man who accused her of murder. it's beyond pathetic.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:57 AM
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12. HAHAHAHA Toe Sucker Morris....you're joking right?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:09 AM
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18. No, it was some sort of scandal but I have forgotten most of it
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:57 AM
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13. "those she won't admit to"
its Morris. That said, he is pretty dead on.

What did the Clintons do to him, that he hates them so much now?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:11 AM
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20. Bill Clinton Tackled Him,Was Literally About To Smash His Face In, And Hillary Pulled Him Off
He hates Bill for attempting to kick his fat, wimpy ass and Hillary for emasculating him by pulling Bill off...

It's in his book...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:18 AM
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22. He was his adviser for over 20 years...
Clinton's have a habit of throwing people under the bus. Including the American people.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:55 PM
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34. It Looks Like He Threw The Clintons Under The Bus After Hill Saved His Sorry Life
If I was Hill I would have let Bill bash his face in ...He couldn't look any worse...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:24 PM
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36. It is interesting how ex-Clinton...
people are so bitter. And..isn't it interesting how the deluge of commentary by a political adviser to Bill Clinton for over 20 years has no value. And yet a couple of sentences from a Preacher's Sermon are being used to destroy Senator Obama's campaign. Isn't that odd? Sure makes me wonder who else might have made their way under the Clinton bus, and what kind of stories they will have to tell.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:10 AM
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19. Chelsea jogging around the WTC on 9/11?
I haven't heard that one LOL! Did she find Atta's passport?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:24 AM
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26. Dick Morris is not our friend. I would not use him as a source for anything.
Even as an Obama supporter.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:31 AM
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28. There's not enough hard drive space on the planet for her list of lies.
Or dick morris's
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:03 PM
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30. C'mon - Dick Morris?
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:04 PM
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31. get this shit outta here. Let the Clinton supporters quote crap sources.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:04 PM
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32. F Dick Morris.
I loathe the Clintons, but take that dislike and put it to the tenth power and you'll have a fraction of my feelings toward Mr. Morris.

That guy is slime personified.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:13 PM
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33. It's like watching a car wreck. It is just so bad, but you can't help but watch her.
Schadenfreude.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:01 PM
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35. so you obama folks are taking the word of a man that was caught
in a hotel with a hooker that allowed him to suck her toes and who has not worked for the clintons since 1996? This man hates HRC and it is simple as that. Dick or rather dickless since he seemed not to wanna do the hunka chunka with the hooker spreads this hate each day and is allowed to appear on fox as former advisor and he left the White House in disgrace when the news broke on the same day in 96 that Bill was to give his acceptance speech for re-election but it had no adverse effect since Bill beat Dole bad.....

so believe Dickless if you must, but remember it is hate that drives him to lies told about HRC.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:04 PM
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38. Yes, he's a toesucker, BUT Hilly DOES LIE and you can't hold that against him.
Argue the point, not the pointer (or in this case the toe sucker).

Are you asserting that his points on her lies are wrong? If so, refute them one by one with evidence.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:02 PM
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37. Dick is generally a DICK, BUT on some of his hilly points he's in the ballpark.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:24 PM
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42. Thanks Kansas Voter, this is priceless!
:wtf: cares where the list came from..hilary needs to be vetted.


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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:27 PM
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43. Dick Morris sucks
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:37 PM
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45. No matter how true it is what he writes, I can not read, stand, or rec anything from DICK Morris.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:37 PM
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46. THE 1ST ONE IS NOT A LIE
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:39 PM
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47. You should have a warning for possibly crashing server
:rofl:

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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:40 PM
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48. This Obama supporter says, "QUIT POSTING SHIT FROM DICK MORRIS!1!!"
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:56 PM
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49. The old saying "Be nice people on your way up because you'll meet the same people
on your way down" really applies here.

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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:21 AM
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50. Four legs good, two legs bad!
Two legs good, four legs bad!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:55 AM
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52. This is disgusting. Dick Morris is disgusting. Stop dragging this crap over here.
I'm an Obama supporter who recognizes that this kind of thing is unhelpful to our party. Knock it off.
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FinallyFree Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:23 AM
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54. Hillary is a liar. Please face it.
Face reality, folks. Hillary is a liar. If that's what you want, vote for her. But don't blame Dick Morris. And if Morris is an unreliable source, investigate these things for yourself.
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