Pilot of the C17 that flew Hillary and Chelsea Clinton to Bosnia speaks out:

[kpete]

Veterans react to Clinton's Bosnia lie (Updated w/video of C-17 pilot from trip)
by Sharon Jumper
Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 07:17:40 AM PDT

The pilot of the C17 that flew Hillary and Chelsea Clinton to Bosnia speaks out:


Summary of pilot's comments:

No evasive landing... There was a steep descent because the airstrip is surrounded by mountains.

No bullets or sniper fire...We never would have landed there if there were any such thing.

No "sitting on flackjackets.." The only place I've ever heard of that was in the movie Full Metal Jacket.

VIDEO & more at:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/26/93119/1241/595/484508

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edited to add:

March 26, 2008
Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft

A veteran of Bosnia who was at the event in Tuzla where Hillary Clinton falsely claimed to have landed under sniper fire is accusing the Senator of theft of valor. As General Walter L. Stewart Jr. of the Pennsylvania National Guard said earlier today on a conference call, soldiers who actually have been in war zones and performed under fire deeply despise those who falsely claim such valor. They feel this way because it attempts to cheapen or make less, their real and actual valor.

read it at:
http://pennsylvaniaprogressive.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/03/bosnian-vet-acc.html

[olkaz]

1. Why did she make this up? Why?

Arrogance? Does she think we're too stupid to check?

My god, do you want the sleepy person who answers the phone at 3AM to be the person who used sleepiness as an excuse to why she made up the sniper story?

Save us.

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. She did more damage to herself by fabricating this crap.

What is her point for doing this?

[olkaz]

10. That's what I'm asking. It's unreasonably stupid. No reason to do it.

I honestly am starting to believe that she has such contempt for her constituency that she feels she can conjure her own truth.

I just wish this was over.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. They must think no one is going to check out their stories.

Meanwhile, the opposition has field day with the whole mess.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for politicians that do this to themselves, (D) (R) (I) or otherwise.

[tulsakatz]

11. even if it were true...........

...the story is that she and Chelsea went because it was too dangerous for the President (Bill) to go. So Bill sends his wife and only child into a dangerous area?

So even if you believe her lie, it's still kind of hard to believe......

[Bilyb]

23. Don't forget the comedian and the guitar player...

It occurs to me that if you send the First Lady somewhere that is too dangerous for the president to go, the policy isn't that she's important somehow... The policy would be that she's expendable!

[Whisp]

13. truly mystifying. why did she say that?

I've been thinking about it from an angle that could be advantageous to her - but there is no there there.

the only thing I come up with is she wants to end this run with her going down in flames. but why? so she can cry about the 'unfairness' towards her and start her own Third Party? crazy stuff.

[TheCowsCameHome]

Maybe sleep-deprived from answering the phone every night at 3AM

[C_U_L8R]

2. That is some Grade A Clintoony Stuff Right There

Hill-arious !!!!

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. Ouchies

That stings...

[TwilightGardener]

4. LOL! "Full Metal Jacket"!

[MidwestTransplant]

9. Sitting on a flack jacket sounds like a good idea. I am surprised it isn't done

unless of course the cal of bullet that would penetrate an aircraft would would go through the flack jacket too.

[TrogL]

36. If you're low enough for small arms fire to reach you

...it's coming from the side, not the bottom.

[Whisp]

16. but, but I thought it was Apocalypse Now

see! he's Lieing! he can't get his war movies straight, how can you believe Anything this guy says? He works for Obama.
:sarcasm:

[zerox]

27. He got it right

the notes here are wrong.

[sniffa]

28. Her campaign is in a world of shit

[TwilightGardener]

31. Indeed--it's rapidly becoming a joke.

[sniffa]

33. I wonder if the DNC is going to give the campaign a "blanket party"?

[K Gardner]

5. Schultz had a former military guy on his show talking about how pissed off his

military friends were, on many levels, at her fabrication. Add military to the list of groups she's pissed off.

[ORDagnabbit]

6. ROTFLMAO!!! "...only in the movies sitting on flak jackets"

[shain from kane]

14. The scene is from "Apolcalyse Now", where they sit on their helmets to keep their balls from being

blown off.




Chef: Why do all you guys sit on your helmets?
Soldier: So we don't get our balls blown off.

[jwirr]

8. This whole things just screams how desperate she is. This is

what seems to be last ditch efforts to divert people to her. I wish she and her staff would be more careful with the truth.

[shain from kane]

12. Full metal jacket does not refer to flackjackets, but to the rifle shells themselves. Who is telling

the story now?



If this was a military person, he would know the difference between a full metal jacket bullet and a flackjacket.
(Actual spelling is "flak jacket".)

[zerox]

26. If you watch the video/audio

Full Metal Jacket isn't mentioned, and he only states that sitting on flak jackets is something that he remembered seeing in Apocalypse Now. The notes in the OP are inaccurate.

[shain from kane]

29. Well, he didn't remember seeing them sitting on flak jackets, because they sat on their helmets.

Check IMDB.com for the exact dialogue, which I have included in another comment.

[yardwork]

17. Embarrassing.

Between this and the comments about Reverend Wright, she's lost all credibility. She needs to concede the nomination to Obama now.

[jgraz]

18. Oh my God. This is just going to keep getting worse

Any bets on how many news shows will book this pilot? :rofl:

[IDemo]

21. Keith would be a good bet, for starters

[Yael]

38. Isn't it sweet?

Coming out of the woodwork, they are...

[Johnny__Motown]

19. Posting a link to another thread on this topic...

Not that this isn't good enough to merit multiple threads




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5266223&mesg_id=5266223

[Scurrilous]

20. K & R

:thumbsup:

[BenDavid]

22. Did she confuse this trip with another trip? Remember the way

Al Gore was "caught lying" about a FEMA trip that Tim the Whore attacked him relentlessly for, under orders from Karl Rove? There's no value in making up a story when there were witnesses and cameras there.

Were they supposed to land at Point A, but couldn't because of sniper fire, so they landed at Point B, instead? Is there a good reason for what she said? And I get that she could've been dead tired, but I don't think I could get so tired that the facts of a story could change that much. It's her biggest blunder so far.

The whore media wants to know if she has a "pattern" of exaggerating, but I have a feeling that if the most investigated woman in history was a serial liar, we'd have heard about it. So - what's next?

I can't believe how much worse this Demo civil war has gotten. Even if Obama implodes and Hillary wins by default - the hate factor is off the charts. She's hated so much more today than she was on Monday, and I'm sure by Friday
she'll be more hated than she is today. She's the most demonized woman in history.

Article after article says "Yes, she's held to a higher standard than Obama," which seems to be an admission that the media has given Obama a free ride - and that's not good for us, but as always we have to play the hand we're dealt.

She's in the worst of all places - if McCain crushes Obama like many say he will, all Obama has to do is say, "It was Hillary's fault, not mine" and the "We love Obama" whorepress will go with that story.Bartcop

[onenote]

25. spinning like a top I see.

[berni_mccoy]

34. OMG you are truly losing it, right along with Clinton... off to looney land with both of you.

[pompano]

24. And when....

did pilots become important, exactly?

This story stinks and looks more and more like a Hillary smear scheme.

1. Why in the world would a pilot even have to know to perform evassive manuevers? There are others in the plane, you know?

2. Why would mountains matter for a steep descent?

3. Many times the aircraft is flown by back seat flyers, the pilot doesn't necessarily need to know how to fly the aircraft. Happens all the time. Oh! but when Hillary does it it's BIG news. Typical of a vast RW conspiracy.

4. Pilots don't make landing decisions, First Ladys do.

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Ya'll never give it a break do you?

And another thing, why when someone basis their whole campaign around ready from day one and a tremendous ammount of foreign/conflict experience would the truth even matter, don't we have more important issues to debate like who some Pastor married?

Get a life, already!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[anonymous171]

30. You scared me there.

I thought I was reading some HRC supporters final words before their descent into madness.

[pompano]

32. Didn't you mean....

"evassive" descent?

Are you getting enough sleep? :D

[berni_mccoy]

35. There are some HRC supporters in this thread demonstrating loss of sanity

It's quite horrifying to watch.

[Oilwellian]

37. It's no surprise the military is now responding

It took a while to sink in but was sure they would eventually realize just how insulting Hillary's lie is to those who actually do put their lives in danger while serving this country.