Clinton Donors WARN PELOSI on Superdelegates...

[polichick]

Wealthy pro-Clinton Democrats escalated their efforts to keep the nomination battle between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton open through the remainder of the primaries and to encourage uncommitted superdelegates not to be guided solely by the pledged delegate count in casting their votes at the convention.

A group of major contributors to the Democratic Party sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today calling on her to back away from previous comments and reaffirm that superdelegates should be free to back whichever candidate they believe would be the party's best nominee.

The contributors said Pelosi has laid out an "untenable position that runs counter to the party's intent in establishing superdelegates in 1984" by suggesting on ABC's "This Week" recently that supedelegates should support whichever candidate has the lead in pledged delegates. "If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what happened in the elections it would be harmful to the Democratic Party," she said.


<http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/26/clinton_donors_warn_pelosi_on.html>

[Bigleaf]

1. They can go fuck themselves! We do NOT need them. They can go help McCain, he needs it.

[knixphan]

29. seconded!

[Johnny__Motown]

45. Obama raises more money anyways.. wtf kinda weak ass threat is this?

Most won't bail anyways. This is all BS

[TheDeathadder]

51. well don't be mad

when they in return they tell people like you to go fuck yourself...that's how the nasty go fuck yourself war starts.

[islandmkl]

2. "A group of major contributors"...

do these people account for more than one vote each??

f*** them...they backed the wrong person this time....

[slinkerwink]

so the fat cats are weighing in

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

33. Its the death throes of the DLC

we want our money back, wah!!!!

[leftofcool]

3. I will give Nancy a pass on this

but she is not popular with mainstream Dems right now and she is not overly popular in the party. She would probably be better off keeping herself quiet.

[kwenu]

4. Pelosi told the truth. It will be harmful if SDs overturn the pledged delegates.

[DemzRock]

34. It might be harmful if they don't! n/t

[GarbagemanLB]

5. So they want the elites to decide the election. GO Hillary!! Win by having the elitist establishment

pick you!

[grantcart]

6. this is part of the intimidation campaign - Carvelle's Judas another

[polichick]

38. Intimidation is the word, alright - very ugly stuff.

[Adelante]

41. It is

And Obama supporters are said to be the big bad bullies :crazy:

[DJ13]

7. Pelosi warns Clinton donors "you wasted your money"

:rofl:

[Melinda]

8. Those *contributors* do not assign nor control committee leaderships, spots, etc...

You know, the choice positions that 230+ Super Delegates enjoy as Representatives in the House. Pelosi does. ;)

Oops.

[myrna minx]

9. Good old fashioned coercion.

This primary season brings out the best of the best.

[bowens43]

10. Hillary and her big bucks supporters

are scum. They prove that she is exactly what this country doesn't need.

[LSK]

11. scorched Earth campaign rages on

If Clinton cant win now, down with the entire party.

[damonm]

12. CUTE...let's piss off the Speaker of the House...

talk about dumb, counterproductive moves...

[leftofcool]

13. Like she has done so much.........?

[SoFlaJet]

14. Fuck them AND their money

we don't need it. If Obama needs money in the GE then we'll give it to him-again CC running on a 1992 playbook

[knixphan]

25. word!

[americanstranger]

15. Repost: Letter to Big Clinton Donors

Dear Big Clinton Donors,

The internet has rendered you irrelevant. Please take your extortionate demands and shove them up your asses.

Love,

Millions Of Small Donors.

- as

[Indenturedebtor]

16. Hah no doubt

Here's a letter from Obama to the Clinton donors:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5269381

[knixphan]

18. co-signed: ME!

[redqueen]

19. Lovely.

:thumbsup:

[polichick]

20. "The internet has rendered you irrelevant." Yep...

...with a lot of help from Howard Dean (YOU HAVE THE POWER) and Barack Obama (YES WE CAN)!

[truebrit71]

27. Nice! Signed : Two million individual donors....the Clintons and their masters can FUCK OFF...

...

[DeadElephant_ORG]

28. signed!

[redqueen]

17. Old time politics!

[knixphan]

21. We should let her know she's right!

She'll redeem herself with me if she stands up to the fat cats.

They got the guns, but
WE GOT THE NUMBERS!

[Barack_America]

22. Obama has over 2,000,000 individual donors.

Clinton's power-hungry fat-cats can take their corporate money and go home.

The Democratic party once again belongs to the people.

[Umbram]

23. The powers that be see their control slipping away. (nt)

[polichick]

36. "I'm melllllllting!!!"

[NYCGirl]

24. This stinks to high heaven. NT

[knixphan]

26. send Pelosi some love-mail!

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Dear (FEW) big donors, your time is at an end because the (MANY) small donors have outraised you!

:woohoo:

Who's more important? 2,000,000 donors who are not maxed out versus a handful who ARE?

How can they pressure anyone when their candidate is nearly operating in the red??????? Who has more money right now? These people are in denial and need to go the way of the horse and buggy!

[damndude]

31. so clinton henchmen think they can actually intimidate a speaker of the house!

[Oilwellian]

32. Incredible

It must scare the crap out of them to see the people organized and able to raise large amounts of money. Remember when Geraldine warned the Obama campaign not to mess with her because SHE does fundraising?

The organized masses have proven we can MATCH the elites and RAISE them a million dollars. :D

[knixphan]

35. we're MORE than a match for them.

Makes me wanna round up 10 more Obama donors!

hmmm...

[City Lights]

37. What are they gonna do, take their party and go home?

Farking thugs can go cheney themselves.

[knixphan]

39. Mail Pelosi

http://www.speaker.gov/contact/

[stillcool]

49. thanks for the link!

[4themind]

40. Just Bring it!

[undeterred]

42. What's the difference between a threat and a warning?

[polichick]

46. Good question - it's a very fine line.

[Beacool]

43. Nancy Pelosi should stay neutral on this subject due to her position.

We all know she's pro Obama, but she should stay out of it until all the voting has taken place.

[4themind]

44. Are they implying both Super AND pledged delegates?

it says " and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of EACH of the delegates at the National Convention in August." so are they emphasizing both superdelegates AND pledged delegates as well (as Sen. Clinton and her campaign has emphasized is allowed by the rules in the past few days)

[AGirl]

47. nothing wrong with the letter.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

48. Just who SIGNED this letter???!!!!

I want NAMES.

[americanstranger]

54. Names...

Marc Aronchick
Clarence Avant
Susie Tompkins Buell
Sim Farar
Robert L. Johnson
Chris Korge
Marc and Cathy Lasry
Hassan Nemazee
Alan and Susan Patricof
JB Pritzker
Amy Rao
Lynn de Rothschild
Haim Saban
Bernard Schwartz
Stanley S. Shuman
Jay Snyder
Maureen White and Steven Rattner

Source: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/in_letter_a_dozen_top_clinton.php

- as

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

55. I don't recognize any of these names. Are any from Michigan?

Anyone know?

ps, Thank You!

[americanstranger]

56. No idea.

But the 'Robert L. Johnson' is the BET guy - the one who had to apologize for inferring that Obama was a drug dealer.

Maybe I'll do a comprehensive search on the lot of them when I get home tonight.

- as

[hulka38]

50. If Obama (Hell, we) can overcome all of these last gasp attempts

by the DLC to hold power, imagine how much money he will be able to accumulate for the GE. I think it'll be staggering.

[knixphan]

57. absolutely.

[ProSense]

52. Obama Camp Hammers Letter To Pelosi As "Inappropriate" -- Demands Hillary Reject It

Obama Camp Hammers Letter To Pelosi As "Inappropriate" -- Demands Hillary Reject It

By Greg Sargent - March 26, 2008, 5:40PM

Obama spokesperson Bill Burton responds to the letter from top Clinton fundraisers demanding that Nancy Pelosi say publicly that super-dels shouldn't feel bound to support the pledged del count leader...

“This letter is inappropriate and we hope the Clinton campaign will reject the insinuation contained in it. Regardless of the outcome of the nomination fight, Senator Obama will continue to urge his supporters to assist Speaker Pelosi in her efforts to maintain and build a working majority in the House of Representatives.”

The "insinuation" Burton refers to here is the following line from the letter, which links the donors' reference to their own financial support of the DCCC to their demand that Pelosi publicly declare that the super-dels should feel free to be "independent" in their choice:

We have been strong supporters of the DCCC. We therefore urge you to clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August.

That's what Burton's responding to by saying that Obama, for his part, "will continue to urge his supporters to assist Speaker Pelosi in her efforts to maintain and build a working majority in the House of Representatives."

Meanwhile, Joe Sudbay of Americablog has a very good catch: He points out that in the above line, the fundraisers appear to be urging her to declare that the delegates in general should feel free to make an independent choice -- meaning not just the supers but the pledged dels, too.

Hillary's top donors threaten Pelosi: Endorse Hillary's view that elected delegates can abandon Obama or we're pulling our money from the party.

Unfrigginbelievable!

[superkia]

53. They are wealthy, so they are worth more than the rest of us!NT.