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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:39 PM
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dk: Donna Brazile brings Wright-gate full circle
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 04:59 PM by FLDem5
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/26/152731/877/306/484797

Yesterday was a busy news day filled with faux-sniper damage control, Wright-gate part Deux and a speech by McBush dubbed "The State of the Blah-conomy" An astute observation by uncommitted superdelegate Donna Brazile, a former Clinton advisor for Bill's '92 and '96 campaigns, may have been overlooked by the MSM.

From the LA Times "Top of the Ticket" blog:


In short, Brazile provided a pointed reminder that some voters (African Americans, in particular, we would think) might recall that Wright did not turn on Clinton's husband during an hour of need for him.

Her comments assured another burst of attention on the Obama-Wright connection -- something her campaign didn't have to do during the white-hot heat of the controversy. And it took part of the media spotlight away from her faulty memory (or, less kindly, utter fabrication) about her visit to Bosnia when she was first lady.

Clinton could have contented herself with decrying Wright's messages without saying, in essence, that no way would she tolerate an association with the likes of him.

That's what Brazile picked up on, making a reference to Wright's willingness to join dozens of other religious figures in attending an annual White House prayer breakfast just as the Starr report on Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky -- in all its lurid detail -- was about to come out. No doubt ...

... those at the event -- at least the vast majority of them -- highly disapproved of Clinton's behavior. But they were not willing to shun him.


Brazile's none-too-subtle point: There's a potential downside to turning away, with nary a forgiving nod, from those who once stood by you.




Who is the better person here?

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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:41 PM
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1. That Thought Crossed My Mind Too
K&R
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:05 PM
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28. You're good...I hadn't thought of that and it
needs to be said and gotten out into the ethers over the m$$$m.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:35 PM
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42. Well, I guess Donna must have forgotten about the humping and riding dirty sermon
where bill did the same to them as he did to monica lewinsky.Yeah he's a real friend. Give me a break.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:43 PM
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2. It's all the Clinton supporters have right now.. and the Bosnia thing is gonna drown it out
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:50 PM
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7. The bosnia lie is already gone. I have heard it described by the...
media as what Clinton said it was...she misspoke. She clearly lied, tried to make herself seem more important than she is and the media continues to give her a free pass while they still talk about wright. They have been calling it the "wright scandal"? Scandal, what the fuck is wrong with those people...oh yeah, they are paid to help along an agenda. Now for the people that support Clinton, I dont what they see?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:53 PM
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10. It's not gone. Chris Matthews is pounding her for it.
The really bad news is, he and outher talking heads are also pounding the Democrats for the whole debacle.

Thanks, Hillary, for tanking what should be a cake walk for Democrats.
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:04 PM
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25. He should talk... He said he was dancing with Ellen
Video shows him copping a feel. (60s talk for groping)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:06 PM
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30. I can't stand him, it's just that is what he's doing. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:10 PM
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32. I hate reading stuff even in Rolling Stone that
says hilary and Obama are at each other's throats. Not fair, cause hilary's the instigator and Obama gets lumped in with that lyin' sniping evader.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:08 PM
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31. The fuck is wrong with them is they don't want
hilary out just yet..they like their "contest" and they want to balance it.

They better tell ol' hilary to stop sniping herself in the foot though or she goin' do herself in on her own petard and all the m$$$$M in the world can't save her sorry lyin' ass.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:46 PM
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3. Donna is very correct, This disowning of someone that stood by you
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 04:55 PM by FrenchieCat
during your greatest hour of need (Lewinski broohaha)...
and then his time came to be stood by, but one only sat by instead, and then after-the-fact attempted to pound the nail in the coffin because it would benefit them is gonna come back to haunt the Clintons in some serious ways. Couple that with the Judas comments, and it ain't gonna be pretty!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:50 PM
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5. And what do you think of the Black super delegates that
have abandoned the Clinton's (Bill... our first Black President) in favor of their Black candidate?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:18 PM
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36. I'll speak for my entire Race
We take it back!

President Bill Clinton ~ We hereby take back the name that you so proudly adored --- the first Black President.

We hereby take it back because you and your lovely wife turned your back on us.

You hurt us to our very souls.

You hugged us for votes in the very African American churches that you are spitting on now.

We stood in long lines to vote for you, we had our votes stolen for you, we prayed for you when you announced,"I did not have sex with that woman." We believed you did not have sex with Monica because you told us and we did not think you would lie.

Our African American ministers came to the WH to pray with you during your hard times with Monica. Do you recall a Rev. Wright that was there that morning?

Yes, that is the same Rev.Wright that you and your wife threw under the bus the other day. Both of you blasted him, during Easter week.

Yes, you will now and forever more be just Bill Clinton - once President of the United States of America.

Sincerely,

The Entire Black Race -- minus Congresswomen Tubbs and a few others
submitted by
goclark
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:59 PM
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18. Well, technically he stood by BILL, not Hillary
and maybe she's pissed about that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:12 PM
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34. Technically he stood by both of them because they
were both thinking politically at the time.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:59 PM
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45. Actually, Wright sat next to Hillary.....
how about that?

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:24 PM
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38. Who's the Christian here?
Obama, who stood by Reverend Wright even though he said he didn't agree with everything the man said, or Hillary, who is more than happy to throw the first stone... and the second stone... and the third stone...

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:47 PM
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4. I trusted Hillary to a certain degree, not any more...her character is lax. I'll vote for her if I..
..have to but I aint gonna like it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:50 PM
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6. If DONNA gets it, it's hard to believe anyone on DU does not.
Wright stood with Bill Clinton when he was being crucified.

And then, the Clintons turn around and do this. :puke:
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:52 PM
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8. Oh so true. But the Clinton lust for power trumps everything. She kisses McCains ass after what he
said about Chelsea. Fuck, with all those photos of the 2 of them, they're like best buddies. I guess the thirst for power is too hard to resist. You're with us or we'll destroy you. The Clinton way.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:53 PM
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9. fair weather friends is too kind
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:54 PM
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12. Donna is a DLC / GOP collaborator. On the other hand
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 05:04 PM by sfexpat2000
she and her family was directly affected by Katrina.

I haven't been keeping track of her but, maybe something woke up in that head of hers.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:57 PM
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14. I have changed my opinion of her in the past 6 months
partly because of how she is handling the primary issue.

Also, people who actually know her have passed on to me that they trust her.

She's looking good so far,for now.

Oh, and Obama was in my state today, about 30 miles from my house.

Not enough tickets, but I would rather see undecideds get a ticket than
the loyal already supporters.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:59 PM
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17. I put her on the Pelosi List
even more important she said that she would quit if they took the nomination away from the one with the most pledged delegates. She has a lot more guts than a lot of them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:01 PM
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21. I have two Donna moments I'll never forget.
One was the weekend after we got robbed in 2004 and there she was, echoing all the lies about values voters.

The second one was an interview she gave after Katrina, can't remember the teevee outlet, where she looked haggard and and sounded real for the first time -- to me, anyway.

Let's see if the real Donna stands up.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:11 PM
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33. I have no doubt that....
if it weren't Obama running against Hillary, Donna would be right there with Clinton. For so long she has been one of the worst, most weak spokespersons for the party -- and then Katrina happened (I remember seeing her, too) and the threat of the Supers handing the election to Clinton happened. When she flat out said she would leave the party if Obama won the election and the Supers overturned the voters, I thought to myself, 'Where the heck has this Donna been all this time!?!' If only she spoke with such conviction and passion all the time...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:21 PM
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37. Yes,Donna and Carville were friends
May still be.

Not sure what to make of her new side.

Not sure what happened with her and Gore.

I always believed she was not totally in his corner at the end.

Just a feeling after watching her luck warm responses to Democrats in the last few years.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:29 PM
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40. She also called Rove one of her best friends. n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:03 PM
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44. Thanks for reminding me of that one
I knew it was a big reason why I had problems with Donna.

They may have kicked her to the curb.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:54 PM
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11. Oh oh Touche Donna Brazile!
dag, we need her to make the rounds of the talking heads shows!!!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:55 PM
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13. Hillary shows that she would burn ANYONE
so more and more will distance themselves from her because they know
she'd do it to them.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:57 PM
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15. Does anyone care to comment on the Black
super delegates that have abandonded the Clintons for Obama? Are they better Christians?
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:00 PM
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19. You see politics and religion as the same thing? How strange. N/T
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:06 PM
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29. Isn't the topic here shunning people? nt
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:05 PM
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27. Might be a silly question by me, but what does that have to do with the thread topic? n/t
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:16 PM
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35. Have you heard Donna throughout this campaign?
Until now she has always leaned towards Hillary. Just because she (and apparently many others) are starting to lean toward Obama doesn't mean it's about race. Get off of that shit.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:25 PM
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39. I'd say no, they just realized that the two people they worshiped
didn't care about them.

Only wanted the votes of their communities.

And, members of their communities have told some of them, support HC if you like, don't listen to us if you like, but we have a candidate that we have selected to run for your seat in the next election.

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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:58 PM
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16. OMG, Holding up Donna Brazille now?
Wow.

What, prey tell does she know of loyalty?
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:02 PM
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23. the point is...
she speaks the truth on this issue.

It is very hypocritical for Hillary to go there.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:05 PM
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26. Ever since she issued a statement that was a
complete distortion of the "fairy tale" comment, I have liked her even less. Not that I liked her much to begin with!

She has run a number of failed campaigns. She is also a super delegate, who has the nerve to call herself uncommitted.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:01 PM
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20. It's about time this is shown
for the hypocracy it is publicly.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:02 PM
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22. There ya' go
Donna has it right on point this time.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:03 PM
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24. Wow! We saw the Wright pic with bil in the White House
and knew he was there for him but Donna Brazil puts in stunning terms!

"..Wright did not turn on Clinton's husband during an hour of need for him."

hilary like bil stabs their "friends in the back".
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:33 PM
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41. She's been a loyal Clinton water-carrier from back in the day.
Interesting....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:54 PM
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43. is`t it....
i think hillary is seeing the last days of her campaign
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