"Facts are stubborn things" Ted Kennedy on Hillary's schip exaggerations

[ORDagnabbit]

Asked whether Clinton was exaggerating her role in creating SCHIP, Kennedy, stopped in the hallway as he was entering the chamber to vote, half-shrugged.

"Facts are stubborn things," he said, declining to criticize Clinton directly. "I think we ought to stay with the facts."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/26/16277/7120/300/484827

[C_U_L8R]

1. Say no more

but boy do I wish Ted would say what's really on his mind : - )

[Lucinda]

5. I'd be happy if he'd just be honest.

:hi:

[Cha]

12. You and I are the only ones on here

that I don't have on Ignore so I can only imagine how they're killing the messenger of the bad news about their beloved queen of mean.

[Beaverhausen]

14. read it and weep

"The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue", Kennedy told The Associated Press.

President Clinton signed the bill in August 1997.

While Kennedy is widely viewed as the driving force behind the program, by all accounts the former first lady's pressure was crucial.

"She wasn't a legislator, she didn't write the law, and she wasn't the president, so she didn't make the decisions", says Nick Littlefield, then a senior health adviser to Kennedy. "But we relied on her, worked with her and she was pivotal in encouraging the White House to do it."
http://news.usti.net/home/news/cn/?/usa.gov.white_house...


"...Participants in the campaign for the health bill both on and off Capitol Hill said the First Lady had played a crucial behind-the-scenes role in lining up White House support..."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DEFDC...
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Or am I on your ignore list, too?

[C_U_L8R]

15. as you might guess, it's a bit gusty out here

it must be blowing in from de-nial

[Lucinda]

2. Well Teddy would know all about stubborn facts:

"The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue", Kennedy told The Associated Press.

President Clinton signed the bill in August 1997.

While Kennedy is widely viewed as the driving force behind the program, by all accounts the former first lady's pressure was crucial.

"She wasn't a legislator, she didn't write the law, and she wasn't the president, so she didn't make the decisions", says Nick Littlefield, then a senior health adviser to Kennedy. "But we relied on her, worked with her and she was pivotal in encouraging the White House to do it."
http://news.usti.net/home/news/cn/?/usa.gov.white_house/2/wed/ap/Aclinton-fact-check.RNQL_HO5.html


"...Participants in the campaign for the health bill both on and off Capitol Hill said the First Lady had played a crucial behind-the-scenes role in lining up White House support..."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DEFDC113CF932A2575BC0A961958260&sec=health&spon=&pagewanted=1

[papau]

7. Ted said no SCHIP w/o Hillary - but now he is for Obama - so he can't repeat his praise of her

[Lucinda]

10. And you know a lot of the reporters asking him are very well aware of that fact

He's being such a jerk. :rofl:

[karynnj]

13. I doubt that - I assume he would still praise her for what she did do

which was to push Bill to fund the program after it passed - and that IS important. There is no contradict. She did not initiate, write or create it - she was instrumental in getting it to be a real funded program.

She overstated her role - but that does not negate that she had a role.

[Cha]

3. That's like asking hilary to stop breathing!

Fact?! She don't need no stinkin' facts..she's got mark penn and m$$$$m. We'll see just how far she gets on those fact evaders.

[Lucinda]

6. Really? That's what you're going to post?

:rofl:

[Hoof Hearted]

"The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for

"The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue", Kennedy told The Associated Press.

President Clinton signed the bill in August 1997.

While Kennedy is widely viewed as the driving force behind the program, by all accounts the former first lady's pressure was crucial.

"She wasn't a legislator, she didn't write the law, and she wasn't the president, so she didn't make the decisions", says Nick Littlefield, then a senior health adviser to Kennedy. "But we relied on her, worked with her and she was pivotal in encouraging the White House to do it."

[pathansen]

4. Quote from Sen. Edward Kennedy, Oct. 6, 2007

QUOTE FROM SEN. EDWARD M. KENNEDY, OCT. 6, 2007: ‘The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue.”

But this was made before he decided to endorse Obama so I guess he forgot he made it.

[pathansen]

8. FACTCHECK gives Hillary credit for SCHIP

See http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/giving_hillary_credit_for_schip.html

[bigtree]

9. Obama Campaign Continues "Full Assault" On The Facts

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The Obama campaign’s full assault on Hillary is expanding into a full assault on the truth.

The memo the Obama campaign released today is full of blatantly inaccurate information and false innuendo, intended to denigrate Hillary's critical role in the passage of SCHIP and the Family and Medical Leave Act. Clearly, they believe that the media will overlook the facts and follow another false, trivial story line of their creation.

On SCHIP, Sen. Ted Kennedy said, "The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue." At the time of passage in 1997, Sen. Kennedy said, "we pay tribute to Mrs. Clinton. Mrs. Clinton has made the issue of children's health and well-being her really first priority in this country, and she was of invaluable help, both in the fashioning and the shaping of the program, and also as a clear advocate, in terms of having an effective outcome, during the discussion and the debate on the children's health issue." (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/06/clinton_claims_credit_for_child_program/
http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6519)

Factcheck.org says "Despite disparagement from political rivals, we find she deserves ample credit for expanding children's health insurance." More facts HERE: http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6604
http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6519

On FMLA, Debra Ness, President of the National Partnership for Women and Families, the organization that worked for years on the issue, said "Hillary was instrumental in getting the Family and Medical Leave Act signed into law...Hillary brought her work and experience on behalf of children and working families to the campaign trail in 1991 and 1992 and knew the importance of getting this legislation passed immediately." More facts HERE: http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6670

3/26/2008 1:12:19 PM

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/

[Lucinda]

11. Perhaps the Obama camp should have asked Obama's bestest buddy Teddy K?

Of couse, he seems to have forgotten the facts...so maybe that would have mattered much?