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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:10 PM
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Reuters: Clinton backers warn Pelosi on superdelegate rift
The Clinton campaign is now pressuring Pelosi to surrender her views on the superdelegates! THIS CLINTON HIJACKING OF OUR NOMINATING PROCESS MUST BE STOPPED NOW!!


Clinton backers warn Pelosi on superdelegate rift

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent 1 hour, 35 minutes ago


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A group of prominent Hillary Clinton donors sent a letter to House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday asking her to retract her comments on superdelegates and stay out of the Democratic fight over their role in the presidential race.

The 20 prominent Clinton supporters told Pelosi she should "clarify" recent statements to make it clear superdelegates -- nearly 800 party insiders and elected officials who are free to back any candidate -- could support the candidate they think would be the best nominee.
Pelosi has not publicly endorsed either Clinton or Barack Obama in their hotly contested White House battle, but she recently said superdelegates should support whoever emerges from the nomination contests with the most pledged delegates -- which appears almost certain to be Obama.

"This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party's intent in establishing superdelegates in 1984," the letter from the wealthy Clinton backers said.
"Superdelegates, like all delegates, have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party's strongest nominee," said the letter signed by some of Clinton's biggest fund raisers.

.....

Both candidates have wooed them heavily, with Obama contending they should follow the will of Democratic voters and Clinton arguing they should vote for the candidate with the best chance of winning the presidential election in November -- which she says is her.

Among the signees of the letter were prominent Democrats and Clinton supporters like Robert Johnson, founder of Black Entertainment Television; Bernard Schwartz, former chairman of Loral Space and Communications; and venture capitalist Steven Rattner.
The signees reminded the House leader from California of their support for the party's House campaign committee and said "therefore" she should "reflect in your comments a more open view" about superdelegates.
"We appreciate your activities in support of the Democratic Party and your leadership role in the party and hope you will be responsive to some of your major enthusiastic supporters,"
the letter said.

The Obama campaign said the Illinois senator would support the election efforts of House Democrats no matter what the outcome of the nomination fight.
"This letter is inappropriate and we hope the Clinton campaign will reject the insinuation contained in it," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said.

Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Clinton had made the case superdelegates should exercise independent judgment about who would be the best for the party and the country.
"Few have done more to build the Democratic Party than Bill and Hillary Clinton. The last thing they need is a lecture from the Obama campaign," he said.

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:13 PM
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1. "Few have done more to build the Democratic Party than Bill and Hillary Clinton"....give me a break.
Few have done more long term damage than the Clintons.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:22 PM
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7. Nancy had no business announcing her support for Obama.. Really a stupid thing to do!
and she gets what she deserves! FIRED!
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:08 PM
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14. She didn't announce her support of one candidate. She said that they should ratify the will
of pledged delegates. That is not endorsing a candidate.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:33 PM
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19. She should do her homework. The rule for supers is that they do what they want,
not what Pelosi tried to impose on them.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:10 AM
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22. She simply gave her opinion on what should happen.
for all she knows, hillary could have the most pledged delegates when the convention comes. :-)
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tedrick8 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:20 AM
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24. she didn't impose
She suggested that the Superdelegate vote reflect the will of the people. Maybe that's why the Clinton people are pissed.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:24 AM
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27. Its not about rules, its about ethics.
Its not about what they CAN do, its about what they SHOULD do.

Pelosi can't force them into being ethical nor force them into doing what they should do.
The rules allow them to do whatever they want for whatever reason.
The rule known as freedom of speech allows Nancy Pelosi to talk about what she thinks they should do.
Its not that big of a deal.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:15 PM
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16. Did she endorse Obama? nt
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:54 PM
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20. No, she did not
But consider the source...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:04 AM
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21. I know.
That's why I asked. :evilgrin:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:29 PM
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18. I remember 1994.
Bill and Hillary Clinton were a disaster for the Democratic Party throughout the 1990's. Good for the country ... in many areas ... but bad for the Party.

-Laelth
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:15 PM
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2. WTF?
Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Clinton had made the case superdelegates should exercise independent judgment about who would be the best for the party and the country.
"Few have done more to build the Democratic Party than Bill and Hillary Clinton. The last thing they need is a lecture from the Obama campaign," he said.


:rofl:

More bizarro world! "Build the party"? Did we not lose many governors, and both houses of Congress during Bill Clinton's term?

Clinton-speak = To build the party we must destroy the party
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:21 PM
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5. Clinton sacrificed Democratic majorities...
and offices just to stay in office as Republican lite. Destroyed the village to save himself.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:10 PM
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15. You beat me to it. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:22 PM
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17. Yeah what a joke.
Pathetic really.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:18 PM
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3. This just proves that the wealthy can make really bad business decisions
What a waste of money "investing" in Hillary turned out to be.

:rofl:
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:20 PM
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4. uh, I don't think that's going to work.
Maybe it would if there weren't such a huge voter turnout expected in November. Those threats mean dookie-doo in light of the benefits all Democrats down-ticket will reap with all the new voters. Come on. Arm-twisting does nothing but leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:21 PM
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6. Obama brings in so many INDIVIDUAL donors that their threats are useless. He is worth far more to th
e Democratic party than a couple of wealthy donors.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:26 PM
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9. If anything, it only wants me to donate more.
We donate regularly - bits at a time. My husband, myself - and the well over 1M other donors that keep own a stake in this year's election. No longer will the corporations and big money men tell me to eat cake.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:24 PM
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8. i can't believe I spent most of the 90's defending these pieces a shit
to the point of almost gettin into a fist fight with my dumbass brother over impeachment.

now I just wish they'd fucking go away - just go away, never appear on my TV again.

The KKKlintoon;s have now joined bush as cues for me to hit my mute button.

And if I never see that bush suckass bill klintoon point his finger at me again, it'll be too soon for me.


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:27 PM
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10. Pelosi knows her constituents. She also knows that Senator Clinton
is not going to be the nominee.

Good for Pelosi.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:27 PM
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11. Is anyone really surprised by those who believe they are OWED the Presidency?? SHAMEFUL !!
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:35 PM
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12. Judgement
They are correct, in the sense that the superdelegates owe the party their own best judgement. But that judgement is hardly going to run along the lines of: "Let's defy the will of the voters, and destroy the party."
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:00 PM
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13. This kind of bullying is the GOP's favorite tactic.
She's a nightmare.
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tedrick8 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:18 AM
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23. some are "more equal" than others
Maybe the Clintonista's would like a "Superdelegate" type situation for the General Election. After all some are "more equal" than others.
Bush himself would prefer to be a dictator. Then again, she's only counting votes from the "important states".
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:22 AM
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25. Good. Pelosi had no effin' business sticking her nose in there.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:24 AM
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26.  Clinton backers = Lobbyist n/t
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:24 AM
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28. Pfffff fffffffffff fffffffffttt tttttttttttttt ttttttttttt
Oh no Madame Speaker!

You better run from those mean 20 Clinton supporters!

LOL.

David
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