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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:52 PM
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I support Obama but I loves me some Bill Clinton.
I can't help myself. I thought he was a great President, on the whole.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:54 PM
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1. He was like the kids in Lake Wobegone
Above average.

Now he's like the guy you found amusing and interesting at 10 p.m., but it's 3:30 in the morning and he still won't shut up.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:55 PM
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2. That's how I feel. I wish he'd just go away. The 90s are so over n/t
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:24 PM
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10. Ya you're so right. All that peace and prosperity of the 90's
would be so hard to take again.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:57 PM
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3. I used to but then I strarted reading up on him
after getting into conversations with people who are more radical politically. They made total fools of me and I eventually had to admit the facts were on their side. I used to like him before I found out about the DLC and how he took the party to the Right.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:58 PM
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4. He was an OK president. Way better than what preceded or succeeded him
but he's been a really shitty ex president. His insecurities and desire to rub elbows with the elite have gotten the better of him and a lot of us would like him to just STFU and disappear.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:35 PM
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14. Only in America. Other countries adore him. I think BO has
really done a job on this country. It has caused Dems to eat Dems. Clinton was the best Pres. since Kennedy. He's brilliant, especially considering all the crap he and Hill had to go thru. And here we are today, people out of work, those who do still have jobs, their wages aren't keeping up with the cost of gas, groc, property taxes, property ins., everything is raising except wages, but no we dare not elect someone that could possibly guide us out of this mess we're in. BO sure doesn't have the knowledge to do it.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:59 PM
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5. I think when it's all said and done, his approval will bounce back, but Hillary's
approval won't ever be the same again. I don't think NY will even want her back next time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5204513
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:38 PM
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15. Surely you jest. With all the negative stuff BO is facing Hill looks
like an angel.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:00 PM
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6. DOMA, MDCA, NAFTA, DLC
That's his legacy.

And moving the party to the right.


He's a corporatist, same as Hillary.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:09 PM
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7. he did have to work with a very antagonistic republican majority...
of course, I'm more center left, than far left.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:20 PM
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9. He could have vetoed all of those
But he didn't.

And every one of those pieces of legislation has been a disaster.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:39 PM
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16. As I said, I can't help myself.
:evilgrin:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:15 PM
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8. Love that pic.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:25 PM
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11. I used to
but his behavior in this election has turned my love into hate.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:26 PM
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12. Same here...
His legacy is ruined. Absolutely ruined. Hopefully in 20 years when he's a frail old man people will forgive this period of his life.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:29 PM
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13. That's what I'm sayin'
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 11:44 PM by Drum
:thumbsup:

I was a world-traveler (for work) during his 8 years in office, and those were very nice times to be an American. I/We were greeted very nicely, and I was unashamed of the actions of my President reflecting badly on our whole national reputation. When Bill Clinton spoke, I felt he was trying to pull us together as Americans, and as citizens of the world. There's another candidate talking like that these days, too.

Also, as I was born in 1962, the Presidents I can recall (say, since age 8ish) were Nixon, Ford, Carter, ReaganX2, BushI, ClintonX2 and Dubya(amazingly, twice.) I loved Carter, and felt he was and is a man of peace and integrity and a uniter...and name an ex-president (besides, arguably Al Gore) who has continued with such vigor to serve in public life. In 45 years I really can count---of course giving props to the final JFK year---two great presidents that I remember, Carter & Clinton, 12 years between the two of 'em.
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