Some Hillary Supporters have their head in the sand

[Araxen]

and won't face the truth that she is hurting the party's chances in the General Election. You need no further proof than to look at McCain's website and see that he is using the soundbytes of Clinton against Obama.

Heck the republicans were smart enough to get their shit straight before it got out of control. It was starting to get very heated between McCain and Romney but they came to their senses and saw the bigger picture. I just hope the Dems see the bigger picture and reign this in before it costs us the Whitehouse if it hasn't already.

[soundguy]

1. Replace Hillary With Obama And you Will Sound

like a person with half a brain instead of hapless panderer.

[Lucky 13]

4. How, EXACTLY, is Obama damaging the party?

Evidence please.

[wileedog]

21. He's winning

And he wasn't supposed to. After all the Clinton's ARE the party.

Ask them, they'll tell you that.

[Lucky 13]

43. Again. Crickets.

[bigtree]

2. Obama supporters sure are impressed by those republicans

Obama too . . .

Obama, Bloomberg Hold Mystery Breakfast Meeting
Obama Picks Up Check; What They Discussed Is Not Known
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/barack.obama.michael.2.599317.html

[TwilightGardener]

5. Bloomberg is not a Republican. Stopped being one last year--

before his mayorship, he was a lifelong Dem, and is still mostly a Progressive.

[bigtree]

8. Believe what you want. He's thick with the GOP no matter what he calls himself

and he's no friend of progressives . . .

Bloomberg Sends Troops to Help Lieberman

In his battle for re-election to the United States Senate without the backing of the Democratic Party, Joseph I. Lieberman is deploying a secret weapon in the race’s closing days: a sophisticated operation to identify and turn out voters, courtesy of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/28/nyregion/28bloomberg.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print


Mike Bloomberg's Donations: Yeah, he really is a Republican

...when it comes to donating money to politicians, Mr. Bloomberg's Republican bona fides are as good as they get, judging from his campaign finance records. As mayor, he gave $250,000 to the same Republican party-building effort that Representative Tom DeLay is now charged with using to launder political money. Mr. Bloomberg has also doled out thousands of dollars to politicians who are far more conservative than he is.

Mr. Bloomberg also gave $140,000 to New York Republicans to elect more members to the State Assembly and Senate, and $25,000 to the Republican National Committee. Asked about Mr. Bloomberg's support for expanding Republican control in state capitals, Ed Skyler, a spokesman, said the goal was to enhance the mayor's influence with Republicans in positions to help the city.

''The mayor has cultivated relationships with people in order to advance New York City's agenda in Washington and Albany, and he has been willing to use his own money in that effort,'' Mr. Skyler said. Mr. Bloomberg has also written checks for $4,000 apiece to Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama and Representative Hal Rogers of Kentucky, who are both social conservatives on several issues on which the mayor disagrees, his aides say.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/17/171652/36

[TwilightGardener]

13. Hm. I will file this under "Stuff I Don't Care About".

[bigtree]

22. I'm not surprised. Anything goes for supporters when advancing Obama.

Courting Bloomberg is progressive? Who knew?

[Larkspur]

6. Bloomberg also use to be a Democrat

Bloomberg is a political hack. He only went republican because the Republicans didn't have a primary battle for NYC Mayor. He's unaffiliate now.

[Drachasor]

11. Talking to a "republican" is NOT a bad thing. Being quoted by one to attack another Dem is!

Why don't you address the OP's concern? Or do you have nothing?

[bigtree]

23. He's standing on stage with him. What interest does a longtime republican donor and booster

have in influencing our Democratic primary?

[Drachasor]

27. That's FUD. Bloomberg is a pragmatic independent with a lot of admirers

Bloomberg is more interested in pragmatic solutions to things than any particular ideology. Obama has an interest in pragmatic progressivism. Bloomberg has said he'd support anyone who was pragmatic about our problems.

Are you against pragmatism?

[bigtree]

29. So you like him. I don't see the value you do in non-Democratic leaders

influencing our Democratic primary process. Apparently the Obama camp is okay with that.

[Drachasor]

33. I'm not an ideological hack who cares nothing for results as long as people toe the party line

I hope you aren't one either.

[bigtree]

37. I happen to believe strongly in our 'party line'

And I firmly reject the republican party and everything they promote in the name of their destructive, dangerous republicanism.

[olkaz]

47. I believe in the party line too, but that doesn't mean we can't use guys like Bloomberg for help

I mean, like it or not, moderates like him a lot.

If his help can move us along, so be it.

[Drachasor]

35. You still haven't addressed the OP's point: Clinton's words are being used by McCain to attack Obama

Doesn't that bother you?

[bigtree]

40. so will republican Bloomberg's be used by the Obama camp to attack Hillary Clinton

now they're side by side campaigning against our former Democratic First Lady and Democratic Senator.

[Drachasor]

41. Are you saying you don't care that Hillary is being used by Republicans to attack Obama?

Because you don't seem to care.

[bigtree]

45. I think republicans use whatever they can as a political wedge

I believe, though, that that is much different than inviting them into our Democratic process of choosing our nominee.

[Alter Ego]

17. Yet another example of Obama attempting to work with those

across the aisle--and yet your paranoid mind immediately interprets it as "OMG HAY GUYS HE'S TOTALLY SELLING OUT TO THE REPIGS!"

[Drachasor]

19. When there's nothing of substance to grab, you grasp at straws

Kinda sad, really. :(

[bigtree]

25. republican straws?

that is sad.

[Drachasor]

28. Your FUD doesn't do much good here. Bloomberg is an independent. Let's not have an ideology war.

You are essentially advocating tearing up the country over ideology. I'm against that.

[bigtree]

32. I'm 'tearing up the country'??

republicans and enablers like Bloomberg have put their stain on our democracy. It's our job as Democrats to clean it up, not rub it in.

[Drachasor]

39. Declaring Bloomberg to be part of the problem demonstrates an extreme lack of knowledge about him

His good work has done more for the country than any petty donations he may have given. Look at the results he has achieved.

[bigtree]

42. results? In New York as he marched in lockstep with Guliani and Pataki?

good luck with that.

[bigtree]

24. Why should we be okay with this republican enabler sticking his nose in our Democratic primary?

[Larkspur]

3. The Clintons have only been out for themselves

They don't give a damn about the Democratic Party or this country. They are pure narcissists.

[MethuenProgressive]

7. Obama intends to destroy the Democratic Party.

He's dreaming of Obama/Bloomberg '08

edit, spelling (thanks!)

[End Of The Road]

9. I'm with you, MP. nt

[bigtree]

10. Another opportunistic pol trying to blur the differences between our parties

fuck that

[40ozDonkey]

16. Wasn't that called "triangulation"? nt

[Drachasor]

18. Please ignore the Clinton behind the curtain! He/She is no one of consequence!

[Drachasor]

12. That's ludicrious for many reasons. A chief one being Bloomberg would never be VP

However, he'd probably be great in a cabinet position. Here's to hoping Obama forms a cabinet in the same manner that Lincoln did.

[bigtree]

26. A republican donor and enabler would be 'GREAT' in a Democratic administration?

I love these promotions of republicans in our Democratic contest. Endearing.

[Drachasor]

31. I'm beginning to think you ARE against pragmatism. Maybe you should read "Team of Rivals"

People of different backgrounds and views can do great in an administration. Generally our most effective administrations have been bi-partisan.

[bigtree]

34. I'm for Democratic pragmatism, not neo-republican hedging. I don't need a book to understand that.

[Drachasor]

36. Actually, I think you do need to read some books. Hyper-partisan behavior hurts the country

And it seems that is what you are advocating. People besides democrats can have good ideas and do good jobs.

[bigtree]

44. I advocate for what I believe in. I don't believe in republican influence in our primary.

And, I really resent it when they're invited in.

Nice little dig about reading. So arrogant in your personal attack.

[zulchzulu]

14. Obama supports the Democratic party...the hell with the Democartic Party...

...what is the Democartic Party?

:shrug:

[ps1074]

15. Obama/Bloomberg ticket

Will get at least 350 EV. Something I am sure Obama is aware of.

First thing first though - HRC needs to drop out asap as she is hurting the party.

[dionysus]

20. keep huffing that glue man

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
you guys are unhinged it's awesome....

[formercia]

30. Let's all sing:

There once was an indian maid

There once was an Indian Maid,
And she was so afraid,
That some buckaroo,
Would wop it up her flue,
As she lay sleeping in the shade.

So she had an idea grand,
And filled it up with sand,
So no buckaroo,
Could wop it up her flue,
And claim the promised land.

Oh the moon shines bright on pretty RedWing,
As she lay sleeping,
A buck came creeping,
Upon his bollocks he came creeping,
To claim the promised land.

Now he was a redskin wise,
And parted RedWings thighs,
And with one grunt,
He wopped it up her cunt,
And little RedWing opened up her eyes.

Now as she came to life,
She grabbed her bowie knife,
And with one slash,
Cut his bollocks from his arse,
And now he's living in the pleasures of the past.

Oh the moon shines bright on pretty RedWing,
Above the awning,
There hangs a warning,
Two redskin bollocks are a warning,
Above the wigwam door.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. batter there than up Obama's arse

[Cheap_Trick]

46. it ain't the sand they have their heads stuck in

on the plus side, they don't need an expensive colonoscopy.

[Cheap_Trick]

48. delete, dupe n/t