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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:11 PM
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The GOP and Hillary blew their load (re: Wright)... Obama is now Teflon II...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:23 PM
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1. Well, this is hitting television today (it was on the blogs yesterday)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:28 PM
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2. Reverend Wright
isn't just Obama's problem anymore.

:headbang:
rocknation
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:41 PM
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4. Well, that dog just won't hunt, because that dog didn't attend his church for twenty years.
Funny--he's not even LOOKING at the guy. BC usually does the full-on "look into my eyes" routine.

I'm sure more than a few "interesting" pastors were at that very well-attended shindig. There are twenty five people or more in that shot alone.

And who released that photo--a WEEK ago?

    In providing the photograph to The New York Times, the Obama campaign appeared to be trying to divert some attention to the Clintons after a week in which Mr. Obama’s relationship with Mr. Wright has left him facing one of the biggest challenges of his campaign. There is nothing in the picture or the note that addresses whether Mr. Clinton had met Mr. Wright prior to the White House meeting or whether he or Mrs. Clinton knew anything about Mr. Wright’s views.


There's no "there" there.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:08 PM
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8. Wright was good enough to be asked to help absolve the Clintons of the Lewinsky scandcal
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 03:09 PM by rocknation
She's not qualified to accuse someone of misuse of the pulpit.

:headbang:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:10 PM
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10. He got an invitation to a National Prayer Breakfast. They hold them EVERY year, ya know. NT
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:36 PM
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17. he sat right next to Hillary Clinton when he was at the White House.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:44 PM
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20. And she didn't sit in a pew in his church for twenty years. NT
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM
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15. And certainly not of anti Semitism until she denounces Graham. n/t
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:31 PM
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3. Personally, I consider criticism of Israel's mistreatement of the Palestinians to be a feature.
At best, Wright's in trouble for expressing an opinion, not spouting OMG-EEEEEEEEEEEVIL-HATE!!!

I don't see this having any legs.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:42 PM
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18. His points are completely lost with his use of invective.
Hard to tell if it has any legs. It just hit television today. We'll see.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:51 PM
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6. Not a popular opinion, I know, but
I can't exactly disagree with, "Why should any Palestinian recognize the monstrous crimes carried out by Israel's founders and continued by its deformed modern Apartheid state?"

Any lasting peace in the Mideast is going to have to be built in part upon a recognition that there are deep, valid, ongoing resentments among the Palestinian people, and that the history of Israeli-Palestinian relations is not one of Palestinian aggression. I understand the remarks may be politically damaging in America, but like with many of Wright's statements, the fact that they are politically damaging exists in spite of the validity of their content, not because of it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:27 PM
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12. It's all about tone, really.
The confrontational tone, and the almost obligatory ethnic insults in every remark, just don't marry well with a Reverend's demeanor.

He's intemperate. It dilutes and distracts from his viewpoints, actually. Garlic noses? Public lynching, Italian style? I mean really, who's up to bat next? Drunken Irishmen? How about a few cheap Scots? Sneaky Japanese, maybe?

The irony is, the Romans who crucified Christ weren't necessarily Italians. The Roman Empire was massive, and they got their soldiers from all over hell--just because they were "Roman" doesn't mean they had to be Italian. The whole thing was ignorant on so many levels.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:46 PM
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5. LOL.
Man, some of you are so naive. The only thing I regret when I read these kinds of posts is that the consequences are too important for me to feel much of any scheudenfraude down the line....
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:10 PM
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9. The media has been giving Hillary a pass on the Clinton scandals. Same with Obama
The GOP will not be as nice.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:28 PM
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14. They're only biding their time
Even I knew about Wright's propensities back last summer.

Query: why did it take until March for these to "become an issue?"

Which begs a further question: what else is out there that Republican investigators know about that the rest of us don't?

No matter what that may be, rest assured that Wright will dog the campaign in the Fall if Obama's the nominee, just as a slew of things will dog Hillary.

That's their MO -and it's proven effective time and time again.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:59 PM
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7. Yes and no.
It could come up again, but it is getting old in the public mind. There will be plenty to tar McCain with that's far worse.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:20 PM
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11. I think you're right. The majority of people have enough gray matter
between their ears to figure out it isn't Jeremiah Wright who's running for president. People are also recognizing a hit job with the continual playing of Wright's sermons. Funny, they never play clips of him feeding the hungry, as I hear he's done, or housing the homeless or helping the poor. They never mention his participation in the Clinton White House. I've been wondering all day, as I listen to the talking heads, what, exactly, they think Obama should do to atone for being anywhere near the Rev. Wright in his lifetime? Send him on a trip to Bosnia with Hillary, I guess.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:27 PM
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13. I wonder if Media Matters is taking this up at all.
The corporate media keep callng the reverend "Obama's pastor". They never fact check the idiots that accuse him of hate speech or racism. They never talk about what a positive force he is in his denomination. A few times, to be fair, I did hear one of these "anchors" trying to balance the skewage with a footnote about his largely loving messages.

It would be really interesting to do a paper on this coverage because it's everything that is wrong with our media.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:35 PM
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16. here's to hoping
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:44 PM
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19. Oh my god
you don't really believe that Teflon crap do you? or the Progressive Great Communicator crap do you?
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