If Hillary can win PA, NC, IN, WV etc. and pull ahead in the popular vote

[Quixote1818]

I would be OK with the Super Delegates going her way and I would most certainly vote for her and support her. However, if she were to lose NC and several other states and is behind in the popular vote when all the voting is over but the Super Delegates put her over the top I will be furious!!! I probably would only come out to vote for local Democrats and just not vote for President.

[surfermaw]

1. I don't think she will get the votes unless she wins them

[Quixote1818]

3. I agree, and I think that is a one in 100 shot for her.

Obama would probably need to be arrested for that to happen.

[Johnny__Motown]

2. Sorry, not true.... Pledged delegate leader will win.... put down the kool-aid and listen to people

who understand the proccess... Like Pelosi for instance

[Quixote1818]

4. I agree for the most part. The scenario I put up would put the Pledged Delegate count

very close. If she is ahead in the popular vote but just down by a hand full of Pledged Delegates I can see how the Super Delegates could put her over the top and I would be OK if it was very, very close. I don't expect it to be that close and I suspect Obama will win easily.

[Johnny__Motown]

6. what do you consider very close ? he is up by approx 120 right now..

8 contests left

That and the proportional distribution makes it difficult to see Hillary pulling to within 100 pledged delegates and she could easily still be down by 110 or 120 when this all ends.

[Quixote1818]

9. I think you are missing the point of my OP. It was more about how I would

feel if she were able to get the Super Delegates to go against the will of the people. I suppose if she pulled within 20 delegates and pulled ahead in the popular vote she would have enough momentum to make a case for getting the Super Delegates on her side. That is very unlikely but I would feel it was close enough in that case that I would be cool with the outcome.

[MonkeyFunk]

7. But the process

doesn't dictate that the candidate with the most pledged delegates wins. If that were true, they would have no need of superdelegates.

[Johnny__Motown]

8. True, but it seems clear that the Super delegates have no intention of overturning the results

of the contests


Every statement from outside the Clinton campaign confirms this.


Most of them need to be re-elected themselves and will not commit political suicide in Hillary's failed attempt for the White House..


Chuck Todd said that if the remaining pledged delegates are split 50-50 then she needs 72% of the remaining super delegates to win while Obama would need 34%

She won't get a super majority of them. She won't even get s majority of them. She may not get any of them at all.

Sorry, she lost. She should have planned beyond super tuesday and tried to win caucuses. She didn't

[mikekohr]

5. Senator Clinton is Down 15% in NC

She may win 3 or 4 of the last 8 contests, but she will all but certainly be behind in popuar votes and total delegates.

If she has to pull a fast one to get the nomination there will be outrage and revolt in the party. The longer this nonsense continues the greater the chance that McCain can buck the prevailing political winds and win the White House.

mike kohr

[sandnsea]

10. She won't win NC, and not likely IN - There's only PA, KY, WV

That's it. Three friggin' states. We're dragging our nominee through the mud on the delusions that three states are going to make the difference. That's the ethics of your candidate.

[Quixote1818]

12. My candidate is Obama. nt

[sandnsea]

13. Sorry

I got you mixed up with another Q person. Facts remain the same.

[loveangelc]

14. If Obama wins IN and NC it's almost certain there will be a flood of superdelegates to him.

she may still stay in the race but I think everyone will begin to say the race is over, and a lot more than they already have.

[sandnsea]

16. The race is over now

The most she can hope to win is 3 states, outside chance at Indiana. That's it. That's what we're destroying our candidate for. Doesn't make any sense to keep repeating HER talking points, HER frame. People need to realize this is being dragged out for THREE states.

[rocktivity]

11. She'll have to win at least 65% of the vote in ALL the remaining contests

just to get close enough to have a legitimate case to plead with the superdelegates.

:headbang:
rocknation

[cliffordu]

15. And THAT is about as likely to happen

as the monkeys flying around my butt getting elected to city council

:headbang:

[mikekohr]

17. She Was Not Able To Win 65% in Her Home State Of New York

Senator Clinton was only able to muster 57% of the popular vote in New York.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

And that's not taking into account the very curious results in numerous precincts, including predominately African-American Harlem, where Senator Obama was not credited with a SINGLE vote. Irregardless, Senator Clinton will not pull 65% of the vote in the remaining primaries, and if she loses NC she will need 70% of the vote in the remaining primaries to over take Senator Obama.

mike kohr

Obama -believe-

[dailykoff]

18. Right, let's promise to reward the swiftboating McCain backer

if she manages to assassinate the front runner. Not.

[DerekJ]

19. Let me ask you this:

If we are playing a game that the winner is the one who ends up with the most points. You win the first, second, and third quarter, but I manage to pull a darn good performance in the 4th, but still can’t catch up to your points, Should I be declared the winner?

I think the fair answer is NO.

So unless they unleash something damning against Obama, that will make him unelectable for sure, I don’t see how this works.