Please read Rev. Wright's letter to NY Times a year ago..........

[Tinksrival]

(edited for copyright purposes-proud patriot Moderator Democratic Underground)

You have to see how this is breaking his heart.......For them to use the Reverand to take down Obama is so sad and makes me so :mad:......This process is so fucked up :(


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/27/flashback-wrights-lette_n_93820.html



Flashback: Wright's Letter To NYT About Obama



In March 2007, New York Times reporter Jodi Kantor published a brief story about how Rev. Jeremiah Wright had been uninvited from delivering the invocation before Barack Obama's official presidential announcement.

Wright responded by writing the following letter:

March 11, 2007

Jodi Kantor
The New York Times
9 West 43rd Street
New York,
New York 10036-3959

Dear Jodi:

Thank you for engaging in one of the biggest misrepresentations of the truth I have ever seen in sixty-five years. You sat and shared with me for two hours. You told me you were doing a "Spiritual Biography" of Senator Barack Obama. For two hours, I shared with you how I thought he was the most principled individual in public service that I have ever met.

For two hours, I talked with you about how idealistic he was. For two hours I shared with you what a genuine human being he was. I told you how incredible he was as a man who was an African American in public service, and as a man who refused to announce his candidacy for President until Carol Moseley Braun indicated one way or the other whether or not she was going to run.

I told you what a dreamer he was. I told you how idealistic he was. We talked about how refreshing it would be for someone who knew about Islam to be in the Oval Office. Your own question to me was, Didn't I think it would be incredible to have somebody in the Oval Office who not only knew about Muslims, but had living and breathing Muslims in his own family? I told you how important it would be to have a man who not only knew the difference between Shiites and Sunnis prior to 9/11/01 in the Oval Office, but also how important it would be to have a man who knew what Sufism was; a man who understood that there were different branches of Judaism; a man who knew the difference between Hasidic Jews, Orthodox Jews, Conservative Jews and Reformed Jews; and a man who was a devout Christian, but who did not prejudge others because they believed something other than what he believed.


(snip)

Sincerely and respectfully yours,

Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., Senior Pastor
Trinity United Church of Christ

[MNDemNY]

1. Obama dumped him off the bus yesterday...are you made at BO as well?

He should have had the brains to leave that church at least a year ago. He , and Wright, have brought this down on themselves.:nopity:

[DemVet]

2. Agreed. Dumping Wright now is a day late and a dollar short.

n/t

[Teaser]

19. Dump him, keep him, seems not to register in the polls

either way.

[Tinksrival]

7. Why hello.......

You think after reading that letter from a year ago that Reverend Wright didn't see this coming. The fact that Senator Obama did not abandon his church a year ago for political reasons says a lot to me. This letter shows me the Reverend got of the "bus" voluntarily.
I find it hard to believe any DU liberal would have had a problem with anything the Reverend has said if he wasn't being used as a political baseball bat in this primary

[MNDemNY]

9. This will have much more effect on a GE.

The issue for me is judgment, BO knew this was an issue, he should have distanced himself well before he has.

[Jackpine Radical]

21. No wonder you support Hillary.

She'd sell out a person or a principle without hesitation if she thought it would advantage her to do so. Barack is running this race with a handicap--he's burdened with a conscience and a deep personal integrity.

[MNDemNY]

22. I do not support Hillary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5293332&mesg_id=5293753

[stillcool]

29. You are consistent..

in using Reverend Wright as a pinata.

[MNDemNY]

30. Obama could have nipped this a year ago, for whatever reason, he chose not to.

[stillcool]

32. yeah...right..

like that would have sated your blood-lust.


My dad...the one on the left.

[northzax]

38. yeah, it says that he doesn't have good political sense

he should have left the church several years ago.

[Buzz Clik]

8. I am so, so sorry that only the media are in love with this story.

I am so sorry that when Hillary mentioned it for the first time, she immediately lost three more super delegates.

I am so sorry.

:nopity:

[MNDemNY]

13. You should be, with the media "in love " with this story,

the effect in a GE will be much greater than it's effect in the primary.And , for the record, I am NOT a supporter of HRC.

[Buzz Clik]

18. Not a Hillary supporter? Of course not. Edwards? Gravel?

You clearly are not a fan of the Democratic Party. Your analysis of this situation is hardly objective and certainly not helpful.

[MNDemNY]

20. My "analysis" is that neither

of these two ass-clowns can win the GE. We must take stock of the situation and act accordingly. Our best hope is for a deadlocked convention where at we can make a winning selection.Politically IMO, our best ticket would be Gore/Obama. There is too much at stake, SCOTUS being the biggest priority to lose this election. And ,yes, IMO this Rev. Wright story has very long legs and will doom an Obama Presidential run.Hillary?, well, she's Hillary.

On edit: As to me being a "fan" of the Democratic Party, I have been a party activist, and donor for more years than most on here have been alive.

[Buzz Clik]

24. "ass-clowns". Goodbye.

[MNDemNY]

26. You prefer "corporate whores"?

[Jackpine Radical]

27. Sorry--I replied without reading to the end of the thread.

Who knows? Maybe there is a path to Gore-Obama without destroying the party & making everyone feel disenfranchised. I personally could see a lot of virtue in that pairing, but don't see a way to get there without blowing the party apart.

In the meantime, my ill-advised thrust at you aside, I stand by my character analyses of Hillary & Barack. And I don't think the Wright thing will hurt Obama in the General--at least not any more than all the other stuff the corporate opposition will dig up, distort, or outright manufacture to throw at him.

And there is evidence that the mass media are losing their grip on the public consciousness. Consider, for example, that a large majority oppose the war despite the media's insistence that the surge is working.

Likewise, Obama's poll numbers don't show much of a hit in any demographic. Truly, I think the Wright flap matters only to those who were already determined not to vote for a black person. When asked about Wright, a whole lot of people said they didn't know who he is. That result is not from lack of exposure--it's from lack of caring enough about the whole flap to even remember his name.

[MNDemNY]

28. This issue would be nothing, with some time behind it.

However IMO the few months until the GE is not enough time. IMO this issue will be far more detrimental to Obama in the GE than it has been in the primary. And also, for the record, I Personally do not take offense to the Rev, or his church, but the fact that it will hurt us in a close GE is troubling, Obama knew this might become an issue at least a year ago, he gambled, his bet did not pay off.

On edit: there is a reason Oprah left this church.

[Kool Kitty]

42. This is just one more reason that religion has

no real place in politics. If the media was really fair, they would look at the preachers that McCain has endorsing him and the church that Hillary has been associated with since she was First Lady. All things being equal, but they aren't, are they?

[Tellurian]

45. Well, this is the usual Obama scenario...3 changes of mind and 3 weeks before he gets it right..

Theres something amiss here. When the man's principles do not alert him to do the right thing the first time, never mind 20 yrs later. Obama exhibits irresponsible, deeply flawed judgment on the simplest of decisions. I feel Obama lacks the maturity necessary to deal with the multitude of issues facing this presidency and is not up to taking on the the huge responsibility of this White House.

Obama doesn't seem to have a secure base of principles from which to draw from for making the many decisions facing a president on a daily basis. His decision making process is indecisive and frankly as rudderless as an abandoned Dorie adrift on a sea of nothing but problems.

[MethuenProgressive]

3. You missed the Pi in the Sky chain o-mail. Obama tossed racist Wright away last night.

Pay attention.

[islandmkl]

4. Tinksrival: be prepared for many 'reply-ers' (as #1) to not read the letter...

let alone realize the context and the time...

'it's Obama's own fault'
'he threw him under the bus'
'he should have left years ago'
'he HAD to have heard this many times'
'Wright will bring Obama down'
'this proves Obama can't be elected'
'etc., etc., etc., BS, BS, BS, BS...'

the Obama-haters have all this stuff saved to cut & paste...they don't even have to use a thought....

Obama IS going to be our candidate and our next President...we can, we will, make that happen...

[MNDemNY]

5. Sorry "moran" I read the damn condescending letter...tripe.

Wipe your chin.

[Tinksrival]

10. Wow.....

Your tone is telling. I think you need a break. Really sad :(.

[MNDemNY]

14. Tell that to the "Reverend".

[dionysus]

12. awwww, bitter shillbot needs his banky...

[islandmkl]

16. I doubt that the word "read" was properly used in his/her response...

"looked at" is probably more accurate...

[Jackpine Radical]

23. I'm sure the poster read it all the way through.

And now has very tired lips.

[MNDemNY]

31. Neener-neener?

[dionysus]

36. banky?

you'll feel better after a cookie and a nap, promise;

[Me.]

6. K & R

[uponit7771]

11. Wright and Obama are paying "black tax" in that they are held to a higher standard & scrutinized...

...to a higher degree because of the color of their skin or the culture they ascribe to.

[MNDemNY]

15. Oh, bullsh*t.

[Algorem]

17. why does he bring up Roshashana?what's that have to do with the

New York Times?

[Jackpine Radical]

25. What part of "AIPAC propaganda sheet"

are you having trouble with?

[Madam Mossfern]

35. He was talking about repentence

and atonement..I think the person to whom he was directing the letter is Jewish?

[northzax]

41. by heritage only

her last name is Kantor, she is not an acitve member of any faith, as far as I can tell (since she has written about being amazed by her boyfriend's faith)

[The Night Owl]

46. I'm convinced that Pastor Wright is a raging antisemite. {EOM}

[Window]

33. K/R.

:kick:

[Tinksrival]

34. Some yellow dog shit on my thread...........

But I still think it is worth reading the Reverend's letter.

[dionysus]

37. oh, that guy helps keep the thread kicked and makes an ass of himself at the same time, it's all goo

:)

[JayFredMuggs]

47. It CERTAINLY IS!

It shows how the NY Times was never interested in portraying Obama fairly from the moment he entered the campaign.

It shows that the NY Times wanted Hillary to win NY State and would stoop to anything, just like their candidate, to get her the Presidential nomination.

I have become so saddened by the recent years of publication propaganda to come out on the NY Times, from WMD's on forward.

The Times is no longer the Grand Old Lady of publications.

[northzax]

39. dupe self delete

[northzax]

40. I know this as been said before, I am sure...

but it needs to be repeated again. remember, this was a written line, not taken out of context, not misquoted, written:

When I told you, using one of your own Jewish stories from the Hebrew Bible as to how God asked Moses, "What is that in your hand?," that Barack was like that when I met him.

I have to tell you, Wright comes off as obsessed with the 'jewishness' of this reporter. the tone comes off as "I tried to talk Jew to you, and you still screwed me, on one of your high holidays, too!"

(it's worth noting that I did not simply get this all from google, I saw it, felt icky, then googled for more background information on Kantor, who from what I can tell, is about as secular as they come)

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

43. Hi Tinksrival,

Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs.

best,
wakemeupwhenitsover
DU Moderator

[JoFerret]

44. What a creepy letter

.