Edit: New Al Gore comments disturb and disappoint me

[Tropics_Dude83]

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/mar/28/gore-thinks-dem-nomination-will-be-set-before/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

There's your edit. Why do they disturb me?

This bitter divisive primary is making winning the November general election increasingly difficult. The race needs to end now and I firmly believe that the superdelegates should have en masse endorsed Obama a long time ago. If Hillary Clinton was 167 pledged and 133 total delegates ahead, they would have. Obama who?

BTW, there is no chance that this thing won't go to the convention unless the superdelegates act now. That's why I'm so disappointed in Gore.

Leahy sees a need for a rush and so do I!

[Bonobo]

1. Not what he said at all.

He said "no rush to endorse" and that it will work itself out before the convention. Exactly the opposite of what you seem to imply in the OP.


"MURFREESBORO - Former Vice President Al Gore said Thursday that he expects the Democratic nomination fight will "resolve itself" before the party's convention in late August.

Gore told The Associated Press that he sees no urgency in endorsing a presidential candidate.

"What have we got, five months left?" he said in a brief interview after a speech at Middle Tennessee State University.

When pressed that several prominent Democrats, including Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen, have expressed hope for an earlier decision on the nomination, Gore said: "I think it's going to resolve itself. But we'll see."

Gore didn't elaborate on how he expects the nomination to be decided before the convention in Denver.

[Tropics_Dude83]

3. Ummm yes he did

"What have we got, five months left?" he said in a brief interview after a speech at Middle Tennessee State University.

When pressed that several prominent Democrats, including Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen, have expressed hope for an earlier decision on the nomination, Gore said: "I think it's going to resolve itself. But we'll see."

[Bonobo]

6. "Resolve itself before the convention" is what he said. AKA DEAL. nt

[Tropics_Dude83]

9. It will just resolve itself magically

[Bonobo]

10. Where did you get the magical part?

[merh]

2. Hey Al, so the political meltdown of our party is nothing to be

concerned with? You sound like the folks that dismiss global warming, it's just a pattern and to be expected. Why should we want to try to stop the forces that are damaging our party from within, it will correct itself.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. under the fucking bus with you AL!

[merh]

40. Not me, sweetie

I know enough about the system and am able to think for myself -- I know I can challenge something that someone says and still respect them for their work and accomplishments. Disagreeing does not mean hate, contempt, dislike or under the bus. If it does for you, you must have a very lonely life.

Maybe you should look in the mirror, seems you advocate turning on anyone and everyone that you don't agree with or that disagrees with you.

[SoonerPride]

4. Your thread title is made up. No where does he say there's no rush.

Stop lying.

[Tropics_Dude83]

5. Ummmmmmmmm yes he does

Gore told The Associated Press that he sees no urgency in endorsing a presidential candidate.

Urgency=rush. They're synomyous.

[Bonobo]

8. Exactly. No urgency in endorsing. In same breath he says it won't go to convention.

[SoonerPride]

12. Your thread title implies that he's content to see it go to the convention

....when he states that it will be resolved prior to Denver.

I understand he himself sees no urgency in personally endorsing a candidate, but he also states that it will be over prior to the convention. I'd change your thread title if it were me.

And there's no need for name calling.

I might be slow, but I don't think I'm an idiot. You might disagree.

[stillcool]

35. Do you think he may be speaking...

in reference to the "Super-Delegate Primary" discussed in the rest of the article?

Tennesseean pushes plan to avoid brokered convention
By Sam Youngman
Posted: 03/25/08 05:43 PM

Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen (D) is actively promoting a plan that he says would prevent a brokered Democratic convention, a situation he believes would pave the way for a Republican to maintain control of the White House.

The second-term governor has proposed a “superdelegate primary” in which the 795 superdelegates who will likely decide their party’s nominee would meet to cast votes. The result would hopefully help the party avoid a contentious, brokered convention and allow a divided party to start the healing process before Labor Day, Bredesen said.

[Tropics_Dude83]

7. BTW, I'm on your side you idiot n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

11. Facts don't have a side.

Although they have strong liberal leanings.

[Arkansas Granny]

13. OP was not quoting Gore directly in the title of his post.

The article does have this quote, however, which essentially means "no rush":

"Gore told The Associated Press that he sees no urgency in endorsing a presidential candidate."

[SoonerPride]

19. Gore thinks Dem nomination will be set before convention

should be the thread title

[susankh4]

14. Smart man, Al Gore

And I heard Howard Dean say the something similar this morning. Here:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=7158080&ch=4226716&src=news

"This is an evenly divided party with two great nominees."

[Tropics_Dude83]

25. Superdelegates angling to force Clinton/Obama?

[susankh4]

31. Let's hope they can pull something like that together....

I think Al and Howard are both aware of just how serious it would be to split the party... when 49.8% is on the "losing" side.

[sellitman]

15. Your post is misleading

Read it again. He is holding back his endorsement. He sees no rush for him to personally endorse anyone yet. Then he goes on to say he feels we will have closure before the Convention.

[Tropics_Dude83]

26. Again...

How will we have closure? Magically?

Unless the superdelegates act in a way they proved incapable of during the Iraq congressional debate, this will go to 2 ballots.

[sellitman]

33. It sounds like Gore has insider info.

He would one who might. I believe Hillary will bow out before the Convention. It isnt magic, its common sense. The Supers will not go against the will of the people or all he'll will break loose.

[KittyWampus]

16. Change the thread title. Gore said there's no rush for HIMSELF TO ENDORSE & Primary will resolved

BEFORE the Convention.

[SoonerPride]

17. Gore thinks Dem nomination will be set before convention

that should be the thread title, as it was the title of the article you linked

[grasswire]

18. remember what they did to Gore

Pressuring him to concede the election.

"Sore Loserman!" "Get out of Cheney's house!!"

Perhaps he thinks that events should play out in due time.

[Tropics_Dude83]

24. delete

Delete

[anamandujano]

36. It would be hypocritical of him to join this motley crew who are trying

to force the outcome of our nomination process.

Even if he finally casts a vote to Obama (I hope he does the opposite), the idea of shutting it down prematurely should give him an upset stomach.

[LVjinx]

47. There's no way Gore could come out and say "Yeah, Florida shouldn't count."

So, whether he likes Obama better than Clinton or not, there's no way he can support what's been done in MI and FL, which the Obama Team is all for. I'm sure the Florida disenfranchisement is burned into his psyche, and I wouldn't be surprised if he appealed to the credentials committee to reinstate those delegates even if he's personally against Hillary.

[Emillereid]

20. It would seem natural for Gore to endorse Obama -- that he's not right away makes

me wonder if he thinks he might be given the nod. Weird.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I Wish Al Gore Was President

America would be a kinder and gentler place...

[Bonobo]

22. HIGHLY MISLEADING TITLE

[BenDavid]

23. well hell, lets decide it on July 4th, 2008. Some of us have more

important things to do. That is unless hrc gets the nomination and we hrc supporters will not try to get you obama folks to vote for her, but we will go to that untapped voter base of the 50% plus of folks that do not vote and get them to take your place.....

[JackORoses]

27. The Sky is falling, again?

settle down Chicken Little.

Al is doing his work behind the scenes to bring this to a conclusion.

Have faith in the Gang of Five. 2 have already emerged (Dodd and Richardson).
Pelosi will likely follow soon after this Donor extortion attempt.

[anamandujano]

37. He said he was not going to get involved.

"Al is doing his work behind the scenes to bring this to a conclusion."

Your daydream is invalid.

[JackORoses]

41. keep telling yourself that

Al will keep working to bring the Dems a victory in November

Don't worry, President Obama forgives you.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

28. DU is not America...

Don't let the tone on this board convince you that the Democrats are on the verge of Civil War. I have several friends (and one spouse) who are Hillary supporters, and we manage to be quite cordial with one another.

Assume that Al is not a member here, he probably looks at the rest of America and doesn't see the primaries as being as divisive as they are here.

[LWolf]

29. I would have been very disappointed in him,

had he chosen to take sides in the current disgusting excuse for a primary.

Of course, I think the best outcome for the party is to go to the convention deadlocked and emerge with a nominee that is neither Clinton nor Obama.

[Hideboh]

30. you guys just want to attack everybody

who doesn't kneel to Saint Obama.
And it is quite disgusting.
Just leave Mr. Gore alone, will you.

[anamandujano]

38. They need fresh meat since the Hillary supporters have had it with

this place.

Soon, well it's already started as we see in this thread, they will be tearing each other to shreds.

:popcorn:

[Hutzpa]

32. I didn't read that

where did you see that in THAT article? You people need to stop looking
for shit, I suppose only Republicans will be upset if the Dems end it now.

Get a new job please.

[stillcool]

34. Bredesen is pushing a "Superdelegate Primary"

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/tennesseean-pushes-plan-to-avoid-brokered-convention-2008-03-25.html

Tennesseean pushes plan to avoid brokered convention
By Sam Youngman
Posted: 03/25/08 05:43 PM

Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen (D) is actively promoting a plan that he says would prevent a brokered Democratic convention, a situation he believes would pave the way for a Republican to maintain control of the White House.

The second-term governor has proposed a “superdelegate primary” in which the 795 superdelegates who will likely decide their party’s nominee would meet to cast votes. The result would hopefully help the party avoid a contentious, brokered convention and allow a divided party to start the healing process before Labor Day, Bredesen said.

[Mezzo]

42. Obamamaniacs should stop trying to change TEH RULES mid primary.

Superdelegates are supposed to meet and vote at the convention. Anybody trying to do anything less is trying to change the rules.

period.

[surfermaw]

43. Gore know enough about the game, to know when to hold them and when to fold them,

I wouldn't loose m uch sleep over Gore making a wrong step...I say Go Gore all the way to the White House, Hill and Al sure sounds find to me.

[surfermaw]

44. In fact I remember the days when it would go to convention

[depakid]

45. Sorry- but for all your whinging the race isn't going to end now

and your candidate may not get the nomination at the convention. Deal with it.

[Samantha]

46. Al Gore is the quintessential inside the Beltway politician

He will never let the public know what he is thinking so he can remain above the fray. I believe he has worked beneath the radar to resolve the problem in a manner that leaves as few scars as possible. That would obviously require the legitimate winner, meaning the person with the most votes and pledged delegates, receiving the nomination, and the second runner-up walking away toward another exciting political door.

Being Governor of New York is not the Presidency, but it would be a great consolation prize for Hillary Clinton. If her supporters see her not win but have a desirable political port on which to land, they are less likely to become ostracized from the process and still vote Democratic in November.

[Bake]

48. Sure. End it before your guy actually wins it.

Makes perfect sense. And throw Gore under the bus for not endorsing that idea.

:sarcasm:

Bake