Is Hillary broke? - Chicago Sun-Times

[RamboLiberal]

Scoop du jour? Sneed hears major money problems in the Clinton camp may soon become a coroner knocking on her campaign door.

• To wit: Word is the cash feeding into Hillary Clinton's campaign coffers has not only slowed down in a big way, undisclosed campaign debts that have yet to be made public could signal the end and have insiders biting their nails.

• Translation: "It won't necessarily be politics which may force her out of the race," said a top Dem source. "There is no hanky panky going on, but Hillary needs to raise money to stay alive . . . and word is she may not be able to climb out of the money hole."

• The buckshot: "I think it's safe to say Hillary's not going to dip into her pocket again," the source added. "And if her employees start taking pay cuts while chasing the dream . . . it's usually the beginning of the body becoming totally cold."

The flip side . . .
Word is former Dem presidential hopeful John Edwards is now leaning toward endorsing Hillary . . . but it's still a wait and see.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/865494,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article

I sure hope Edwards doesn't jump in now for Hillary. Why back a dead horse?

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

1. I honestly don't know what Edwards would have to gain by endorsing Hillary at this point

The only realistic hope she has of winning now is by subverting the will of the voters by having the supers override the outcome of the primaries. If he really wants her to win that way, he's clearly not the person I thought he was.

[Dems Will Win]

4. John Edwards obviously hates Barack personally for snubbing him for VP

That would be the only reason. Elizabeth Edwards is for Obama and has not been able to talk her husband to go for Obama.

We are seeing the true Edwards now and it's not pretty.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

16. I don't think the question of Edwards as VP has even come up yet

not seriously, at least. Obama certainly hasn't snubbed him. And according to the article in the OP, Elizabeth Edwards is opposed to Obama.

[Yael]

17. Did you read the link?

Taylor Marsh Jr up there is claiming that Edwards is going to endorse Clinton because Elizabeth is jealous that Obama took John's turn or some other inane ramblings.

[flpoljunkie]

21. Guess Elizabeth didn't think much of Terry McAuliffe saying it was "Hillary's turn," either.

I certainly did not. Also, I cannot imagine that Elizabeth Edwards would be this petty--as the author of this gossipy Sun-times column, obviously is with his snarky comments.

[Yael]

23. She isn't petty. What makes this all the more inane.

[roguevalley]

24. John isn't stupid. why endorse a candidate on the way down who can't

pay her own way? Rumors don't mean anything right now.

[TheFarseer]

26. When did he snub him for VP?

I'm cartain that hasn't been decided yet and JE is probably very much in the mix along with Bill Richardson and no doubt some others.

[stillcool]

30. that's not right...

John Edwards does not deserve vilification on supposition. Whatever his reasons are for with-holding an endorsement are his own. If and when, and who he chooses to endorse, that is his prerogativ. After all, Hillary is still a Democrat.

[dkf]

2. Backing Hillary now makes no sense.

She is very very unlikely to win and its not like Edwards needs to cast a superdelegate vote so he will have to make a public choice.

[gateley]

3. It's always the fucking money

That's my Rule of Life.

If this is correct, that may be why Harold Ford was talking about the Super Del vote? HRC wouldn't be able to stay in until the convention unless she knows for sure she'll be the nom?

About Edwards -- what's up with that? I would think that by this time he knows who he supports, don't you? Maybe it's just that he's leaning toward coming out with that endorsement. In my gut, I have no feeling who he supports, so it would be interesting to hear something from him.

[Hutzpa]

5. Edwards??

that is misleading, surely Edwards is not that dumb to make such a move.

[4themind]

6. I don't know, what I do know is

she hopes the dissemination will help her get more donations like her campaign's "announcement" after super tuesday

[VolcanoJen]

7. There was an article yesterday about the Elton John concert/fundraiser...

... and how desperate they are to sell the "cheap seats." Nobody's biting.

[BearSquirrel2]

38. Hillary Clinton came to Hammond yesterday ...

Hillary Clinton came to the Hammond, IN civic center yesterday. And there were 200 seats empty.

When Obama comes, there won't be a place big enough to hold everyone. Hillary has cruised about as far as she can on name recognition.

[1776Forever]

8. As I have stated many times - How in the H can Edwards endorse HRC after saying this..........

John Edwards: I’m a Populist and Clinton is a Corporate Democrat

http://2008central.net/2007/08/23/john-edwards-im-a-populist-and-clinton-is-a-corporate-democrat/

August 23, 2007

John Edwards is giving what he calls a major speech today in New Hampshire.

(snip)

Here’s an excerpt from his speech:

Instead of serving the people and the nation, too many play the parlor game of Washington — trading favors and campaign money, influencing votes and compromising legislation. It’s a game that never ends, but every American knows — it’s time to end the game.

And it’s time for the Democratic Party — the party of the people — to end it.

The choice for our party could not be more clear. We cannot replace a group of corporate Republicans with a group of corporate Democrats, just swapping the Washington insiders of one party for the Washington insiders of the other.

The American people deserve to know that their presidency is not for sale, the Lincoln Bedroom is not for rent, and lobbyist money can no longer influence policy in the House or the Senate.

It’s time to end the game. It’s time to tell the big corporations and the lobbyists who have been running things for too long that their time is over. It’s time to challenge politicians to put the American people’s interests ahead of their own calculated political interests, to look the lobbyists in the eye and just say no.

...............

You tell me what could have changed his mind so quickly??? Sounds fishy to me!

:hide:

[Stephanie]

9. Can't she use Bill's $20M payoff from Ron Burkle?

:shrug:

[Independent-Voter]

10. who still gives a shit about Edwards at this point?

[mkultra]

11. well, I do

And i doubt he will endorse at all in this late stage.

Sounds like bullshit to me.

[samdogmom]

14. I'm with you! I don't believe for one minute that Edwards is going to endorse Hillary!

If he does, I'll be very disappointed in him.

His endorsement won't make me take a second look at Hillary...it will just disappoint me and make me thankful that maybe I was "saved" from making a huge mistake when I was supporting him. Edwards was my first choice for President. Obama is my second choice, but lately I've been wondering why he wasn't my first choice all along. I really respect this guy! And, I'm having NO second thoughts! I support Obama 100%!

[mkultra]

25. i have great respect for edwards

and i doubt that after the Hillary gaffes that bring here reputation into doubt that he would allign himself with her.


I would imagine that he will wait and endorse the chosen candidate.

[BearSquirrel2]

39. Instant runoff for Democratic elections ...

Wouldn't it be great if the Democratic party endorsed this superior form of voting. Then I could proudly mark on my ballot.

1) Kucinich
2) Edwards
3) Obama
4) Dodd
5) Richardson
6) Biden
7) Clinton
8) Gravel ...

And know that my voice would be heard and my preferences noted.

[Emillereid]

12. If Edwards throws his support to Clinton you gotta wonder if he ever really

believed what he said. He would look like a hypocrite and would lose my esteem for him big time. If he really stands for what he purported to believe his natural choice would be Obama.

[SoonerPride]

13. I called it yesterday: the person to tell her to drop out of the race will be her accountant

The "party elders" need not tell her to bow out, it will be the bean counters that do it.

[mrJJ]

15. $10 Million - $50 Million in the bank

Sen Clinton has plenty of Cash. Whether she wants to go back into her piggy bank is another question. The financial is 47 pages long be forewarned if you want to go thru them.

Just a financial but one heck of a spread $10 Mill too $50 mill? 47 pages

Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 2006 Politician Profile Net Worth: From $10,360,009 to $51,021,998 Ranks 9th among all members of the Senate. Assets: 10 totaling $10,460,009 to $51,052,000. Liabilities: 2 totaling $30,002 to $100,000.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/candlook.php?txtName=clinton

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDsummary.php?CID=N00000019&year=2006

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/candlook.php?capcode=h3mpd&CID=N00000019&submit=Submit

[Medusa]

18. How much does Obama have in the bank for comparison?

And how much of the Clintons' personal fortune are they willing to spend? We know they want it BAD!

[msallied]

20. It depends on how much of that is liquid.

Or not tied up elsewhere. She's already used $5 million of her own money. Bankrupting oneself on a losing bet is a sign of a major problem. The first step is in admitting one has a problem. lol

[mikekohr]

27. Senator Obama Has $31.5 million in the bank

according to reports I've read. This same report shows the Clinton Campaign $9 million in debt. Obama has attracted nearly two million individual donors, many of them small, first-time donors.

The Obama campaign has energized the masses. This is a bottom-up insurgency. The peasants are at the gates and the castle is on fire. The old guard will continue to pour boiling bile on us as we storm the walls, but in the end, "We will overcome!"

mike kohr

[Johnny__Motown]

36. This is in regards to her campaign, not her personal finances..

The last estimate I saw had her with about 3 million on hand without paying back her own 5 million dollar loan. So technically she would be 2 million in the red at that point, if the numbers are true.

This does not count the money that she has raised for the GE. She can't tap into that for the primary.

[msallied]

19. Why would he endorse her??

That makes no sense whatsoever, unless he is looking to kill himself politically.

[msallied]

22. At the start of this whole race two years ago

She had so much money locked up in her war chest that everyone thought she would be unbeatable. She had all the special interest and lobbyist money and seemingly limitless donors. She has spent more money on this primary campaign than most former presidents spent on their entire campaigns from primary to November. And she STILL hasn't won.

This shows more than ever that more money is not the answer here.

[locker13]

28. edwards and hillary do have a bond

and they have conspired before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLT4wa0qmzM

[grantcart]

29. tks

[ShadowLiberal]

31. She doesn't seem broke, I'm seeing her commercials in PA already

She got started advertising a bit later then Obama, but if she's broke then her advertising sure isn't showing it, it's expensive to buy airtime for ads around here.

[flpoljunkie]

33. She had $9 million in debt with $3 mil cash on hand at February's end. Hope they got cash up front.

[Johnny__Motown]

37. I think that counts the 5 million she loaned herself.....

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[bhikkhu]

34. A very nasty insult, to all of a Democratic candidate's supporters

An apology would be my unsolicited advice.

[BearSquirrel2]

35. A motivation to stay in ...

So here we have it. Hillary KNOWS she cannot win and KNOWS she is out $5 million. So, cut all the high budget items and go out for one last round. Cut the campaign debt as much as possible and leave her supporters hanging.

You Hillary supporters, look what she is doing to you all. She knows she is done, but she is dragging herself, her party and you through all this get her $5 million back!!!