Edwards didn't endorse Obama because he got into a fight with Elizabeth, was aloof, arrogant, glib

[Herman Munster]

http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/45604/

In the days after John Edwards’s withdrawal from the Democratic race, the political world expected his endorsement of Barack Obama would be forthcoming tout de suite. The neo-populist and the hopemonger had spent months tag-teaming Hillary Clinton, pillorying her as a creature of the status quo, not a champion of the kind of “big change” they both deem essential. So appalled was Edwards at Clinton’s gaudy corporatism—her defense of the role of lobbyists, her suckling at the teats of the pharmaceutical and defense industries—that he’d essentially called her corrupt. And then, not least, there were the sentiments of his wife. “Elizabeth hasn’t always been crazy about Mrs. Clinton” is how an Edwards insider puts it; a less delicate member of HRC’s circle says, “Elizabeth hates her guts.”

But now two months have passed since Edwards dropped out—tempus fugit!—and still no endorsement. Why? According to a Democratic strategist unaligned with any campaign but with knowledge of the situation gleaned from all three camps, the answer is simple: Obama blew it. Speaking to Edwards on the day he exited the race, Obama came across as glib and aloof. His response to Edwards’s imprecations that he make poverty a central part of his agenda was shallow, perfunctory, pat. Clinton, by contrast, engaged Edwards in a lengthy policy discussion. Her affect was solicitous and respectful. When Clinton met Edwards face-to-face in North Carolina ten days later, her approach continued to impress; she even made headway with Elizabeth. Whereas in his Edwards sit-down, Obama dug himself in deeper, getting into a fight with Elizabeth about health care, insisting that his plan is universal (a position she considers a crock), high-handedly criticizing Clinton’s plan (and by extension Edwards’s) for its insurance mandate.

[anonymous171]

1. I thought Obama's plan was a ripoff of Edward's plan

So therefore he was insulting his own plan.

[JoFerret]

54. Both plans ripped off Edwards's better ideas

Hillary did a better rip-off job.

[cali]

112. LOL!!!

I'm always interested to find out how truly little people here know. All three plans, which are very similar, come from Hacker's proposals. This has been widely known for a long time.


http://www.ourfuture.org/health-care-america-and-presidential-candidates-health-care-plans

[JoFerret]

125. They all fall short

It's a matter of degree.

[cali]

111. actually all three plans have roots in

Hacker's plan. Hacker is a professor at Yale.

All three plans (Obama's, Clinton's and Edwards') came from the same source: Yale University political science professor name Jacob Hacker. And all three were based on the concept of something called "shared responsibility," where government, individuals and employers all pay something. . . . So, Clinton and Obama would let people keep their existing coverage if they want to, or buy into a government-sponsored plan like Medicare, and the government would subsidize small businesses and the poor.

http://www.ourfuture.org/health-care-america-and-presidential-candidates-health-care-plans

[anonymous171]

123. Interesting. Thanks for the info!

:hi:

[jefferson_dem]

2. Oh, yeah. On Hillary: “Elizabeth hates her guts.”

Bwhahahahah...

You left out that part, Hermie.

[leftofcool]

6. link please to where Elizabeth said this

[anonymous171]

Here ya go:

It's in the OP's article:

And then, not least, there were the sentiments of his wife. “Elizabeth hasn’t always been crazy about Mrs. Clinton” is how an Edwards insider puts it; a less delicate member of HRC’s circle says, “Elizabeth hates her guts.

http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/45604/

[leftofcool]

Elizabeth didn't say this.........provide link where Elizabeth says this

or shut up

[anonymous171]

20. If you don't trust the OP then don't.

But then you'd also have to believe that Edwards doesn't dislike Obama.

[leftofcool]

24. No link to an Elizabeth statement? I thought not.

[anonymous171]

28. IT'S IN THE FUCKING ARTICLE!

If you don't believe the article then don't believe it! That would also mean that they were wrong about Edwards and Obama too.

[DerekJ]

39. Don't try. He is not in here to engage in discussion.

His only mission is: "What is the best way to piss Obama supporters off?" he scours the internet for one negative article, and then he come sup with something as lame as this shit.

[jefferson_dem]

30. On Hillary: “Elizabeth hates her guts.”

It's in the article. Can you even read?

[spooky3]

69. The concern is that an anonymous person OTHER than Elizabeth said this,

not Elizabeth herself -- according to the article. And it's hard to know whether any of this gossipy, personal stuff is true and whether it had anything to do with what JRE is thinking and doing (or not doing) now.

[jefferson_dem]

14. In the same article linked to by the OP.

“Elizabeth hasn’t always been crazy about Mrs. Clinton” is how an Edwards insider puts it; a less delicate member of HRC’s circle says, “Elizabeth hates her guts.”

http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/45604/

[leftofcool]

19. Sorry, Elizabeth did not say this.....you lose

[jefferson_dem]

23. Read it again.

“Elizabeth hasn’t always been crazy about Mrs. Clinton” is how an Edwards insider puts it; a less delicate member of HRC’s circle says, “Elizabeth hates her guts.”

Did I say Elizabeth SAID that? No. It's the same sort of unsubstaniated hearsay that Hermie uses to bash Obama. Duh.

[Herman Munster]

9. that comment is from a Hillary advisor

And if you bothered to read the article, Hillary impressed Elizabeth in their later meeting.

[goldcanyonaz]

12. Appears that Elizabeth might hate Obama's guts now.

:rofl:

[still_one]

116. If Hillary impressed Elizabeth so much, where is Edward's endorsement?

[moriah]

36. It was a bit subtle....

"She even made headway with Elizabeth" does imply that there was enmity between the two, even if it wasn't exactly blunt.

Then again, what do you expect from an unnamed unaligned insider?

[gateley]

3. What an eye-opener!

I had no idea the term "tout de suite" had the "de" in it!

Thanks! :hi:

[frogcycle]

44. yeah, I've always seen the corrpted

"toot sweet"


who knew?

[leftofcool]

4. Obama is not likely to get an Edward's endorsement

[Oleladylib]

5. and there we have it! "glib and aloof" That about says it!

[Skwmom]

7. Oh please. Edwards has been spouting the Clinton camp memes against Obama since he dropped out.

I wonder how long it took them to come up with this spin. It's almost as good as Clinton's sniper story.

[Garbo 2004]

29. Really? Edwards hasn't publicly spoken until recently & he praised both candidates. Can you cite a

source where Edwards, since he dropped out, has "spouted" Clinton camp memes against Obama?

[Skwmom]

65. He gives Obama the slight praise of bringing new people into the party.

He then goes on to heap praise on Clinton which reminds me of her overblown, fabricated resume. I listened to Edward's Leno appearance and to his comments today. Plus, since he's dropped out through his staffers he voiced concerns about Obama not being enough of a fighter (amazing how that fits right in with the Clinton spin).

Edwards and Clinton is a fighter but the problem is they only fight to fulfill their own personal ambitions.

[readmoreoften]

82. Oh really. Seems if Edwards was really ambitious he'd jump on the Obama boat.

Edwards attacked Clinton during the campaign harder than anyone. If Obama doesn't have his endorsement it is (I know these are words that are unfathomable to you) his own goddamn fault.

Edwards gains nothing by not supporting Obama while he is 90% certain to be the nominee.

[Inspired]

43. What are you talking about? n/t

[JI7]

8. who gives a shit, Edwards was supposed to endorse Hillary

various times in the past few months and never did.

Obama got the one he wanted which was Richardson.

Obama already has a record of dealing with poverty that goes back decades.

so when is Edwards going to endorse Hillary ?

[Tropics_Dude83]

17. Edwards will endorse HRC Monday May 5

The groundwork is being laid to explain this massive shock.

[DerekJ]

40. Link?

[AllentownJake]

45. Will she be in it Monday May 5

Money Money Money Money Money Money Money

[Skwmom]

22. Edwards is a phony as Feingold and many others have pointed out.

I wouldn't believe anything he said.

[McCamy Taylor]

33. Don't go there.

The very minute someone suggests that JE will not endorse Obama, JE is a liar, too.

[Skwmom]

56. I have been calling Edwards a phony since 2004. The guy is as big a fake as

the Clintons.

Edwards being a phony has nothing to do with Obama.

[readmoreoften]

83. Obama, being the biggest puffed-up phony of the whole campaign, of course.

Hope you get your pony. Wait? Why don't I have you on ignore already? Remedied.

[cali]

113. Sorry, as most Edwardians here know

I've NEVER had much use for JE. Not in 2004 and not last year and not this year. I'm not gonna call him a liar, but I've always said I don't trust him at all. Not even a little bit. His Fortress stunt- working there to find out more about poverty- and his investments there, his sponsoring and IWR with Lieberman and his Senate record, all have weight with me. This was a man so politically unengaged throughout most of his adult years that he sometimes didn't even vote. This is a man who never did any public service work until shortly before he ran for the Senate. And who in the Senate was simply another go along,get along DLC lawmaker. Furthermore, Edwards has less experience than anyone who ran this year, and yet many Edwardians often bleat about how Obama is too inexperienced. Quite ironic.

[still_one]

117. I think the fact that Edwards couldn't win his own state in 2004 says everything /nt

[Inspired]

49. What did Edwards say that you don't believe? n/t

[Skwmom]

61. Go back and look at everything Edwards has said since

he left the race (even just before). He's parroted the Clinton talking points. Today he said that Obama brought people into the party but he PRAISED Clinton for her experience, leadership etc. Bill Clinton is the one who pushed to get Edwards on the Kerry/Edwards ticket and it was reported that he was the FIRST one to call Edwards after Kerry picked him for his VP. Clinton owed Edwards for helping him with the impeachment.

This whole article reeks of fabricated spin to tear down Obama, build up Clinton, and explain why the "populist Edwards" would endorse someone like Clinton.

Obama should never have went to NC. Edwards is a snake in the grass and as ruthless as the Clintons.

[spooky3]

71. self-delete

[Inspired]

81. You are full of it. There's nothing else to discuss.

You are an Obama supporter like myself...and you are now being ignored.

[JoFerret]

107. I am liking Edwards more and more

Don't know why he upsets you though.

[cali]

114. He said he went to work for a Hedge Fund to learn more about

poverty. Perhaps the biggest crock line of the entire campaign.

[Inspired]

120. Really? I can think of many lines better than that.

I also recall him saying that he went went to work for Fortress to earn some money. I'm trying to understand what that has to do with the OP.

[JoFerret]

106. dealing with poverty?

amusing

[Johnny__Motown]

10. LET IT SINK... another worthless post with a worthless source quoted

[Chicken George]

68. K&R

:kick:

[bellasgrams]

88. Yep, 'let it sink'. It being BO. =Let BO Sink.

That's good I like it.

[MadBadger]

11. Beats Elizabeth's opinion of Hillary.

[chimpymustgo]

124. Jesus Christ your Obama logo is CREEPY.

[wileedog]

So everyone's favorite Presidential candidate around here is

paralyzed into inaction because his wife like or dislikes one or the other candidate for some reason?

Bullcrap. While I'm sure Edwards will take his wife's opinion into account, there is a lot more at stake here than Elizabeth thinking Obama is "glib".

[Condem]

13. Gee, Herman

Mark Halperin said Edwards thought Obama to be a pussy. So which one is it?

[Mooney]

15. It's funny that this is all you took from an article

that's 95% about what it will take to get Hillary to drop out.

[BeyondGeography]

16. Total BS; Here's the problem: The Edwards' still want what Obama has

a chance to gain the White House. And they are ever so hesitant to try and help him get there.

[dkf]

18. Yeah Elizabeth was absolutely a full partner in that campaign.

I love John for that.

[RBInMaine]

21. "Neo-Populist hopemonger"? And HillFANS want quarter from Obama supporters! NO WAY !

Talk like that and hear me and others tell you that DESPERATE SLICK-HILLY doesn't have a hope in hell. She, her team, and people like your are NASTY self-righteous mudslingers and if I and the millions of Obama supporters have anything to say about we're gonna beat your assesses in this primary.

[anamandujano]

103. You didn't like that? It was my favorite part.

[JoFerret]

109. I though it was pretty funny and inoffensive

certainly compared with your slurs and epithets

[RBInMaine]

25. Gee, I heard they played basketball and hugged.

[psychmommy]

26. did you read what the author said about your girl.

you're trying to slime obama and this is a most unflattering snapshot of hill. lets get back to the positive. the texas election results are exciting for both candidates. lets take their attitudes and keep it positive. have a good evening.

[RBInMaine]

27. Edwards will look FOOLISH endorsing the person who is going to LOSE NC. He won't risk that.

[Kermit77]

35. Edwards would be stupid to endorse "Titanic" Hillary now

The only way Edwards endorses Hillary if she is leading in the NC Polls by 10 points in the week before the primary. Then if she wins NC he could take credit.

It would be a short-term victory because Obama will win the primary.

[CatnHat]

101. Just like Richardson looks FOOLISH

endorsing the person who LOST New Mexico.

[cali]

115. bwahahahaha

you forgot to mention that Obama lost NM by less than 1%

[LiveLiberally]

31. I don't put much stock in this article....

which is just more hearsay (notice the lack of attributions?) Interviews with close advisers of Edwards have repeatedly suggested that he is keeping his opinions of both candidates to himself. Lacking anything more definitive, I am inclined to believe what he stated in his speech today -- that both candidates have demonstrated their ability to be great presidents (and I'm willing to bet he is willing to serve in a high level capacity in either of their administrations.)

Article on Edwards' speech today: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1726454,00.html

[Skwmom]

The praise for Clinton was a lot different than his praise for Obama.

Former Sen. John Edwards, in his first public speech since dropping his White House bid two months ago, praised Democratic rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama on Saturday, but declined to endorse either candidate.

"We are blessed, first, to have an extraordinarily talented African American who could be the next president of the United States," Edwards said. "There's no way to contest the fact that he's inspired this country." (Though when I heard a portion on cable news, he said something about Obama bringing new people into the party.)

"And Senator Clinton, who has served America for so long and so well, and has shown so much strength and leadership, has really forged an extraordinarily historic campaign as a woman for the nomination and for the presidency."

So much strength and leadership? Give me a break. Oh but Obama can inspire.

[Skwmom]

32. Remember the poll about Edwards endorsing Clinton? The one that was posted

the day he dropped out (or shortly thereafter)? I think they were trying to figure out how it would go over with his supporters.

One good thing is that Edwards can kiss a future run goodbye because he will never win back the netroots. Of course, he might think Clinton will manage to steal the nomination and take him along as VP.

[Condem]

34. Herman starts the post

Then you don't hear from him again.

[frogcycle]

42. so?

[Condem]

52. Sorry, frogcycle

He's onto the next one. But- He only gets three.

[susankh4]

37. Thank you.

I was waiting for this to come out.

I knew something like this had happened.

[grantcart]

38. Completely contradicted by Richardson and others that say that

in conversations with Obama he has been warm and engaging while the opposite has been true of Hillary.

Let's take a look at some facts. Hillary got a bunch of SDs early when everyone was picking out their offices in the White House and what cabinet positions they wanted. Since the race got competitive the SDs have gone one way:




Do you really want to have this campaign be a contest of personalitties??????????????

Your article concludes and you forgot to add


All of which is why party elders aren’t the last best hope for a peaceful resolution of the Obama-Clinton race. The last best hope is that Hillary will eventually come to see yielding as not merely the path to self-preservation, but also as her only route to long-range self-aggrandizement.

[Patsy Stone]

46. Also forgot to add the title of the article: "Who'll Stop the Pain?"

Wonder why?

[bleever]

73. Also, the last sentence of the article, which sums it all up:

"The last best hope is that Hillary will eventually come to see yielding as not merely the path to self-preservation, but also as her only route to long-range self-aggrandizement."

:hi:

[frogcycle]

41. I can certainly envision the scene that is described

the "aloof, arrogant, glib" part. Not saying that condemns him mind you, just that he has shown that side several times. Of course it is hard to interpret snippets caught on camera like the "you are likable enough Hillary" and "the snub" - they may be blown out of proportion, or totally misconstrued. One sees what one chooses to. It is unfortunate that so many of his supporters refuse to admit he is human, has flaws, and then say they support him despite them. By claiming perfection they destroy credibility.

I have had only one personal contact with him. Long before he announced he was running for pres (he's my Senator). I won't go into detail, but suffice it to say he was pretty cocky with respect to being a US Senator and pretty patronizing to a constituent (me). Pretty much a "there, there, daddy knows best" kind of remark. I can definitely picture him striking an "attitude" towards Edwards - kind of a "you are a loser; why should I listen to you" thing.

Again, I don't say this to slam him or say he is not the best choice we have left. Just saying the article probably has it right.

[Skwmom]

75. The Clinton meme of "Obama is an arrogant, uppity black man." Why am I not

surprised to see that same meme put forth in an article about Edwards?

[frogcycle]

77. who said anything about race?

asshole

[greguganus]

47. Edwards is a nobody in this election. His endorsment means nothing. n/t

[Inspired]

53. That's why threads about it are ignored.

:sarcasm:

[Skwmom]

78. I think it's b/c Edwards is as polarizing as Clinton.

[ekwhite]

98. I beg to differ

I don't put a lot of stock in this article, but I do respect John and Elizabeth Edwards. I don't appreciate your snide dismissal of John Edwards just because someone said he may endorse Hillary Clinton. His endorsement won't change my mind about Obama, but it is important, and he is NOT a nobody.

[against all enemies]

48. Petty bullshit, no wonder the Republicans win all the time.

[NJmaverick]

50. I really don't give a rat's behind what Edwards thinks

He lost, and lost badly. Not only that, he blew any chance he had to play king maker. Nice guy and glad he is a Dem, but he is hardly a party leader.

[frogcycle]

57. And I don't give a rat's ass what you think

He's not a party leader because he does not go along to get along, does not cozy up to corporatists.

He just may one day make you eat those words.

[Yael]

51. I am so tired of people portraying Elizabeth as some hand-wringing

overly-emotional, out of control harpy.

It smacks of projection, no question, but it is so unfair to her that it simply reeks.

[JoFerret]

55. Now. Let's imagine her with NO health coverage

Hillary or Obama?

[JoFerret]

110. Nobody did

Entirely your invention.

Elizabeth Edwards is an amazing person. And John Edwards is great too.

Edwards had the best health plan. It pulled both Clinton and Obama into coming up with something similar but not as good. Clinton's is a bit stronger than Obama's. Neither are as good as Edwards.

[book_worm]

58. So why hasn't Edwards endorsed Hillary?

[Skwmom]

66. According to the guy at Time Mag he's waiting for the right time.

[totodeinhere]

85. No, that doesn't make any sense. The right time was yesterday.

The longer he waits the less impact any endorsement would have. IMO, he will endorse neither candidate until after one of them has clinched it.

[Hoof Hearted]

59. Who knows, but "aloof, arrogant and glib" - yeah, I can see that.

[angie_love]

60. What a gutless OP, runs away after posting and never comes back to answer questions

SO gutless.

[Condem]

64. angielove

It's a trait.

[mkultra]

62. flight of fantasy

completely fabricated from nothing and carved out of thin air.

[FARAFIELD]

63. Hmm

Elizabeth hates her guts, and Obama Blew it? then just say you wont endorse either. Big deal!! I Supported Edwards, but if he endorsed it would be during the two weeks before the Primary, and frankly Obama is going to roll. So if he likes OBAMA he will do it, if not I would have to assume he wants a job with Hillary if she should win. We will see what will happen right after PA>

[marlakay]

67. The whole thing is sad

John and Liz have a lot of supporters here and other blogs like dailykos if they went with Hillary would be very upset. I am sorry that Obama got into a fight with Liz (if that really happened and until Liz says it did I will not know for sure)

I notice we have not heard from her like we use to and its probably because our site isn't the same and if I was her I wouldn't want to be in the middle of it either.

Besides if she came everyone would ask her who they are for and she wouldn't want to say.

I think John and Liz need to realize that Obama's health plan is his way on the path to universal at least thats what he says. He is being honest in saying congress won't go for full universal and he wants to start with his and hopefully in the future head towards universal. I think he is smart enough to know if you try for the full thing now all of it would get scrapped. Look at our congress, they are chicken shit to do anything.

If I was them at this point I would just stay out of the whole thing, it makes them look better at this point. Obama is probably going to win and if they go down with Hillary that won't help them a bit.

[anonymous171]

91. I agree. I think Obama will help move the country more leftward.

[Windex]

70. what position was promised to Edwards

It may be that Hillary offered him a higher position in her cabinet.

[Fredda Weinberg]

72. ty n/t

[Name removed]

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[angie_love]

80. Um she has cancer asshole. How would you feel?:

[Name removed]

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[Yael]

87. Dear God you are one vile individual

How do you live with your nasty self?

Seriously.

[McCamy Taylor]

94. They called Gore crazy, Hillary crazy and now you call EE crazy,,,,,

:cry:

You realize this qualifies you to join the ranks of some of the lowest media whores like Charles Krauthammer and Bay Buchanan, don't you?

[ekwhite]

99. It's more like trash to everyone

That comment was untrue, rude, and uncouth. Elizabeth Edwards is dealing with cancer, and I think that had a lot to do with the way John Edwards dropped out before Super Tuesday. Comments by Hillary supporters like you are part of the reason I have begun to hate the Clintons.

[lumberjack_jeff]

76. How can he insist that his plan is a universal?

It's only selling point is that it's optional.

Don't they have dictionaries at Columbia or Harvard?

[anamandujano]

104. Small point of logic which is always ignored around here.

:thumbsup:

[readmoreoften]

79. That's pretty much how I guessed it would've gone down.

Obama is a great performer of speeches, a good writer of memoirs, and a good swayer-of-voters, but he strikes me as an arrogant prick who doesn't know how to negotiate his way out of a paper bag.

That has somewhat sealed the deal with me with this guy. He should've had Edwards in the bag. I don't know how Obama could've fucked that up. In fact, I can't fathom it.

[anamandujano]

105. You can imagine how much Edwards wanted to endorse him but

in the end, just couldn't.

[Imagevision]

84. I think Edwards is waiting for Gore to endorse Clinton before he makes a move... it

would be a fail safe...?

[totodeinhere]

86. He may have to wait for hell to freeze over before that happens.

[Tatiana]

89. If this narrative is to be believed, sounds like they had a personality and policy difference.

It happens. Frankly, all three health care plans suck. But sounds like Obama stuck to his positions and I can respect him for that.

[MilesColtrane]

90. So Obama's a "hopemonger"?

Sweet Zombied Jesus! Any sensible American should wear that appellation proudly.

[WillyT]

92. Maybe He Just Didn't Feel Like Groveling...

:shrug:

[stevietheman]

93. Please stop the attacks on our nominee Barack Obama. n/t

n/t

[FrenchieCat]

96. This article doesn't make sense, and here is why.....

1. Barack Obama has had the Kitchen sink thrown at him, and he has yet to get into a "fight", which is why the article states. I do not believe that Obama would get into a fight over something as petty as "Mandate" vs. no "mandate". Mandates would get stripped out of a health plan bill by congress anyways, so it cannot be a "do or die".

2. Edwards calling Barack all of the names attributed to him, makes Edwards appear juvenile. The name calling doesn't make any sense to me, cause although I never cared for Edwards, I don't consider him to be so petty as to call names in a unsourced article. I would imagine him to be more man than that....in he might say something to Obama about whatever he thought of him, but would be grown up enough to leave it out of the press.

3. Edwards campaigned as a populist and anti-corporatist, everything that Hillary isn't. Plus he accused Clinton (and so did Elizabeth) of ripping off his health care plan. So why would he find her best due to this one thing.

4. There has been many rumors about Edwards, and they all point to his endorsement of Hillary...yet he has yet to endorse. I'm not sure what that means, but it is confusing as hell. More confusing is that Edwards, who could get no press coverage while he was running and dropped out due to his lack of votes, has now become a mythical figure and is touted damn close as to being a party elder. What is it that I am missing? Why is the press now so fascinated, when they couldn't give a shit just two months ago?

Could someone fill me in? I don't get it.

[Azathoth]

97. Here come the "anonymous Democratic sources" again! n/t

[Laelth]

100. I take this with a big grain of salt.

n/t

-Laelth

[redsoxrudy]

102. why didn't edwards endorse obama?

That seems to be the question. Not for the ridiculous reasons in this anonymous source rubbish article. He is simply waiting for his shot in case this thing implodes at the convention and the party elders just pick somebody. I don't mean this in a derogative way either. I supported him early on but he dropped out before i could vote for him. besides as much as i like him, if they were just going to start from scratch anyway they might as well choose gore. but i figure he thinks he has a chance.

[WilliamPitt]

108. "Always support strength. Never support weakness." - Bene Gesserit axiom

Edwards is a politician on the national stage with hopes for the future. He will come to support Obama's candidacy in due time.

Write it down and mark the date. It's going to happen. Book it.

[still_one]

118. He will support whoever the Democratic nominee is, but I don't think he

will endorse before the convention. He would have done so already

Then again your statement that he will come to support Obama in due time I think is correct also because most likely Obama will get the nomination

[Name removed]

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[QC]

121. Goodness! All that sweet, sweet hope 'n unity

sure does make some people bitter!

[earth mom]

122. Obama is arrogant. I totally agree with the Edwardses! Glad to see this! nt

[Kahuna]

126. If I was Obama and Edwards tried to DICTATE to me what the theme

of my campaign should be, I'd tell him to go take a flying leap..

[earth mom]

127. If Obama wants Edwards support, he should be more open instead of closed minded. nt

[Yes We Did]

128. Elizabeth thinks you should force people to do something...

If that's why Edwards' endorses Clinton - because Obama doesn't want to force penalize people if they can't afford healthcare - then Edwards is more shallow than I thought. It doesn't make a difference who he endorses at this point. He's been wrong so many times I can't even count. War vote. Bankruptcy bill. Two of the more incredible votes that turn his whole candidacy upside down.