Back in the Real World . . . .

[CatnHat]

Bill Clinton is one of our greatest presidents ever.

I saw an interview a few weeks ago on cable where Bill was in Louisiana speaking about the candidates. What really impressed me though, he was in Louisiana raising money, not for Hillary camp but for the people who lost homes in the Katrina disaster. Along with Clinton was Brad Pitt and others involved in the (Clinton Global Initiative) which helps displaced victims, and empowers them economically.

The Clinton's don't deserve the treatment they get from out of control Obama "democrats" and republicans. While Obama is touting his own horn, and his surrogates seem to be under some kind dazed state . . .

Back in the real world, real compassion and unity is being carried out by none other than the Clinton's; who in turn get slammed by the Obama brats and republicans. It's really a rotten shame.

That's what really angers Hillary Clinton's supporters, instead of seeing the good the Clinton's have and are doing for our country, they turn their backs and praise an upstart who hasn't done much of anything.

[cali]

1. back in the real real world

most presidential historians rate bill just slightly above the middle of the pack. And there is no apostrophe when speaking of the Clintons in the plural. I, for one, was never a huge bill groupie. He was largely a competent caretaker president who did not change the trajectory of the country when he had the chance.

[CatnHat]

2. Oh---

like Reagan, for instance. Now Obama is praising Bush, Sr.'s foreign policy. Yeah, Obama is not changing anything, but going with 'traditional' republicans whose only accomplishments is starting wars.

[Skittles]

3. no need to tear down Obama to praise Bill Clinton

and visa versa

[Blue-Jay]

4. Making sense?

That's an ass-kickin'.

:hi:

[Skittles]

5. I'm tired of what DU has become

very tired of it Blue-Jay :hi:

[Blue-Jay]

9. We'll get it back in a few months, my friend.

I know that it's tiresome right now, but all the bullshit will settle down eventually. Until then, it's best to laugh and try to not take things personally. (and post pictures of Lee Marvin when you see the opportunity.)

[anamandujano]

6. except that's what happens here every day, the vice vera part.

[Skittles]

7. I know

but none of it is right

[NanceGreggs]

8. The fact that you feel you must defend ...

... your candidate by references to Obama supporters being "democrats" in quotes, brats, or in a "dazed state" speaks volumes.

When your only defense is sarcasm-laden offense, it's time to consider the fact that you just might be attempting to defend the indefensible.

[CatnHat]

10. The fact is

that is exactly what Obama supporters do here everyday. Why is it so different when a Clinton supporter does the same thing? Do you call out those posts? Doubt it.

Hillary and her husband have gotten nothing but a raw deal by most of the Obama supporters in this forum. I could "quote" some very nasty words used against the Clinton's--by Obama supporters who in fact, play more dirty than any of the hardball politics in this primary (acting more like republicans than "democrats".)

[Blue-Jay]

11. I know you are but what am I?

Brilliant response, ShitHat.

[NanceGreggs]

13. And the fact is ...

... that I could quote some very nasty words used by Clinton supporters against Obama.

And that proves exactly what?

[damndude]

15. why quote the nasty comments

it's better to let that kind of negativity die out from lack of attention. isn't it better to have a thoughtful debate with other people who have the same end result in mind but maybe just a different view point of who is best to advance those goals. in the end you're tarnishing your own point of view by supporting it in response to someone else's slime.

[CatnHat]

12. Even if Hillary Clinton

loses the nomination my opinon of her and her husband stays the same. If you would rather downplay the good they have done for our country; it's your blindsightedness and loss, not mine.

[NanceGreggs]

14. I have never downplayed their contribution ...

... but I do despise their own willingness to denigrate themselves in order to achieve a win that isn't going to happen.

[CatnHat]

16. Last I checked

there are still voters out there that want to vote. . or do we just disgard them like FL and MI? There is still unfinished business out there; and many questions to raise. Let's make sure this process is fair, especially to the voters.

[Political Heretic]

17. His presidency was a mixed bad of some good and some bad things.

Since we're talking about the "real world."

[MadBadger]

18. Do you know whats a shame? Your lack of a donor star/profile

that's a shame.

[CatnHat]

20. What's with you

what exactly do you do in this forum, check profiles and stars!!! Whatever--irrelevent.

[MadBadger]

22. What's with you? To me HRC supporters are democrats, no need for quotes

[susankh4]

19. Yes Bill was!

He did so much for so many "little people." Really bolstered the middle class.

Thanks.

K&R.

[Splinter Cell]

21. Bullshit

The Clintons are out for the Clintons. That's why they are willing to insult African Americans to get what they want, even though Bill was the "first black president".

What it boils down to is that the Clintons have proven in this campaign that they stand for only one thing: themselves.

[CatnHat]

23. If anyone is insulting

anyone----it's you insulting the Clintons.

[Splinter Cell]

24. Here's the thing

I don't owe a DAMN THING to the Clintons, nor does any democrat. It's that simple. When you make a point to run the kind of campaign they have, then I will make a point to speak up.

Bill Clinton will get no worship from me. I respected many of his policy ideas, but his personal conduct over the years has been disturbing.

[Orsino]

25. There aren't any great presidents anymore...

...only corporatist tools with varying degrees of disdain for working Americans. Bill Clinton was an inspiring speaker, but he let himself be led by Gingrich, Barr and the other neocons, to our lasting detriment. I'd still take him over any Republican, but calling him "one of the greatest" is wildly exaggerating.