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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:04 PM
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Hillary's new friend (updated):
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 06:32 PM by ProSense
Richard Mellon Scaife

From Hillary's site:

If You Read One Thing Today: From the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review: “Walking into our conference room, not knowing what to expect (or even, perhaps, expecting the worst), took courage and confidence. Not many politicians have political or personal courage today, so it was refreshing to see her exhibit both.” Read more. If You Read One Thing Today: From the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review: “Walking into our conference room, not knowing what to expect (or even, perhaps, expecting the worst), took courage and confidence. Not many politicians have political or personal courage today, so it was refreshing to see her exhibit both.” Read more.

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Richard Mellon Scaife (Heart)s Hillary

March 30, 2008 11:33 AM

Richard Mellon Scaife, a major funder of the 90s-era Vast Right Wing Conspiracy -- specifically, The American Spectator and its "Arkansas Project" -- today reconsiders his former nemesis in an op-ed in his newspaper, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

In a Sunday op-ed titled "Hillary, reassessed", Scaife writes, "More than most modern political figures, Sen. Clinton has been criticized regularly, often harshly, by the Trib. We disagreed with many of her policies and her actions in the past. We still disagree with some of her proposals. The very morning that she came to the Trib, our editorial page raised questions about her campaign and criticized her on several other scores. Reading that, a lesser politician -- one less self-assured, less informed on domestic and foreign issues, less confident of her positions -- might well have canceled the interview right then and there."


Bill Clinton: Chill!

President Bill Clinton twice told Democrats at the California Democratic Party convention in San Jose to "chill out." He also displayed a remarkable memory for the rest of the nominating-contest calendar.

"Don't you let anybody tell you that somehow we are weakening the Democratic Party by telling the people in Pennsylvania, and North Carolina, and Indiana, and Kentucky, and West Virginia, and Minnesota, and South Dakota, and Oregon, and Puerto Rico," Clinton said, according to CBS News. "We are strengthening the Democratic Party."

"Chill out," Clinton continued. "We're going to win this election if we just chill out and let everybody have their say. This is a good thing."

The President forgot Guam, which chooses nine delegates on Saturday, May 3 -- between Pennsylvania on April 22 and the big Indiana and North Carolina primaries on May 6.

(emphasis added)

Bill, hanging out with Sciafe is not supporting the Democratic Party

About NewsMax (Sciafe funded)

On edited
Media Matters recent reports including NewsMax: here and here.

From the Baltimore Sun:

After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Mr. Farrakhan, and that Mr. Wright's church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader.

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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:06 PM
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1. I see you conveniently forgot to post the part where Scaife wants to interview Obama as well
I read his op/ed earlier on Sen. Clinton, and he specifically stated that he is not endorsing her and that there's still much he disagrees with her on.

And he also stated he wants to talk to Obama and pretty much ask him the same questions he asked Sen. Clinton.

But you forgot that part. Conveniently.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:09 PM
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3. Looks to me like the link's there for all to read. Conveniently.
NGU.


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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:05 PM
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25. LOL! Another "Duh" moment.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:16 PM
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:28 PM
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12. And did you conveniently forget that Scaife WAS the VRWC?
:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:23 PM
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28. I don't give a shit what the asshole's op-ed said! n/t
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:09 PM
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2. I like the Murtha endorsement best!
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:13 PM
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4. Louis Farrakhan's endorsement of Barack Obama hurts the Democratic party far worse than...
Louis Farrakhan's endorsement of Barack Obama hurts the Democratic party far worse than Bill Clinton's association with Richard Mellon Scaife.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:14 PM
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5. No it doesn't. Did Bill denounce and reject Scaife?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:20 PM
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8. Clinton deep-sixing BCCI matters throughout the 90s hurt this nation, the world
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 06:22 PM by blm
and our party far worse than any other single thing that any other Democratic lawmaker has EVER done.

All to protect the secrecy and privilege of GHWBush and his powerful cronies who helped groom Bill for the role and bankrolled his career.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:34 PM
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15. Did Barack put it on his website?
This pandering the the RW is not going to win Hillary any support from Democrats, "democrat readers" indeed. This isn't even making sense.
Support from this quarter smells to high heaven.


Can't suspend my disbelief any longer. This one finally cooked Hillary's goose for me. And I really didn't want that to happen.



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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:32 AM
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43. And I suppose Ann Coulter's endorsement of Hillary is helpful?
You can't control what nutbars endorse or support you.

He "rejected and denouced" Farrakhan. What more do you want from him?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:31 AM
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47. Obama did not seek Farrakhan's endorsement
He can't stop Farrakhan from endorsing him, so it's not fair to hold that against him. He said his campaign did not solicit the endorsement and thus far, nobody has offered evidence to contradict him on that.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:17 PM
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6. I sure am glad Hillary the Fighter stood firm against this arch enemy!!
Oh... you mean she?...

Nevermind.

:rofl:

NGU.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:25 PM
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11. Clintons trashed the White House story last for 9 months without Clintons fighting
back. Want to know why? Because it was helping Bush and hurting the Democratic party.

That's what Clintons do. They WAIT for their reward from Bushes, and 2008 was supposed to be that reward. But too many of us know better now.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:18 PM
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7. She is a uniter. That is what we want in a President.
Unless we only want that in one Presidential candidate.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:21 PM
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9. Yeah, she's united Murdoch and Sciafe and Limbaugh behind her.
:rofl:

NGU.


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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:24 PM
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10. What? Uniting republicans and independents to vote democratic is a good thing.
It cracks me up that when Obama does it--it is the greatest thing yet when Clinton does it--it is a betrayal.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:29 PM
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13. Those aren't repugs. They are corporatist fascists.
There is a difference.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:29 PM
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14. You think those 3 are going to vote Dem in the fall?
:rofl:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:46 PM
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16. Don't you understand the difference between the voter and the enemy?
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 06:47 PM by ClassWarrior
Maybe that's why Tonya's campaign failed.

:rofl:

NGU.


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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:49 PM
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17. you are too interested in looking for something to attack Clinton with
to see that you keep your friends close and your enemies closer. And that those enemies have powerful influence on the voters. And that, in politics, it helps to have them in your corner.

Really, I understand your position. Dehumanize Clinton and everything she stands for--even if it is the same thing that Obama stands for.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:55 PM
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19. You're actually trying to blame someone else because Hillary sat down for an interview with Sciafe,
and for promoting his op-ed on her site?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:58 PM
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22. Typical Shillbot tactic: Blame everyone else but Hillary for her failures and problems.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:16 PM
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26. why attack me and call me names?
I have a different point of view than you do. Perhaps, if you took your fingers out of your ears and stopped yelling long enough you would learn something.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:56 PM
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21. Limbaugh's support for her is not sincere. He wanted votes for her to disrupt the Dem primaries.
Unlike Clinton cozying up to right-wing media, Obama has been getting Republicans to vote for him not only in the primary, but the fall as well.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:02 PM
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23. she cannot help what people like Limbaugh say and do.
I do not hold her responsible for anything that comes out of the right-wing nut job's mouth.

When Obama does it--he is getting votes. When Clinton does it she is "cozying up." That you do not see the double standard is laughable.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:25 AM
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32. I see. I defended the Clintons throughout the 90s, and Sciafe flayed them. But...
...I'm the one you want to toss overboard. Winning strategy, that.

NGU.


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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:50 AM
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44. Don't forget Ann Coulter! n/t
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:52 PM
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18. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:56 PM
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20. Creepy
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:03 PM
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24. The home page of the Trib titled the article "A Changed Mind"
Now Dickie Scaife likes Hillary and has decided she isn't the murderer he once accused her of being? The man who has bankrolled the Republican Party and right wing causes including the infamous Arkansas Project to the tune of MILLIONS upon MILLIONS and has NEVER contributed a dime to a Democrat or to a left leaning cause in his entire life , all of a sudden has "changed his mind" about Hillary?

Something smells fishy here.

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:52 AM
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45. Oh, please....this rings true to me....
...I mean after all Hillary dodged sniper fire in Bosnia and she was a Goldwater Girl who adopted the policies of MLK.

So why can't this be true, too?

:sarcasm:
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:49 PM
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29. Here's a tip: a [HEART] from Scaife is NOTHING to brag about!...
Sheesh, where is her judgment?

Too bad PolPot is dead. Otherwise, Hillary could court his endorsement, too, and then her supporters could brag about that.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:55 PM
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30. So that's why there is so...
many links to Newsmax here these days!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:58 PM
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31. can there be any surer sign that this campaign is in a desperate mode?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:18 AM
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33. No! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:12 PM
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34. Rendell praises Fox
Pennsylvania’s Rendell praises Fox News’ biased coverage of presidential race:

Maybe someone could direct Rendell to Fox Attacks. If he spent a few minutes there, I doubt he’d repeat such nonsense.


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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:29 PM
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35. Gotta love Fast Eddie!
:sarcasm:

He wants a seat at the high table he does and thinks that Hillsnbill is the only way he'll get it.

What a toerag.

(and he continues to push for casinos in Philly)
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:41 PM
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36. Scaife said months ago that he's warmed to Bill because of philanthropy.
I really think it's approval of his fast track, high-priced global dealings, with a marginal philanthropic bottom line. Bill was just a beginner when campaign financed to close the blooks on Bushco and Iran Contra/BCCI; he's now running in their same circles.

If Scaife really respected philanthropy, he wouldn't have been so against the Heinz family, Teresa and John.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:52 PM
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37. Harold Ickes Confirms That Wright Is Key Topic In His Discussions With Super-Delegates

By Greg Sargent - April 1, 2008, 3:25PM

In an interview with me this morning, senior Hillary adviser Harold Ickes confirmed that Reverend Jeremiah Wright is a key topic in his discussions with uncommitted super-delegates over whether Obama is electable in a general election.

The comments from Ickes, who is Hillary's chief delegate hunter, are to my knowledge the first on-the-record confirmation that the Wright controversy is a central subject in conversations between the Hillary campaign and the super-delegates her advisers are trying to win over to Hillary's side.

In the wide-ranging interview, Ickes also:

* Said that it was possible that Hillary forces on the convention credentials committee could bring a so-called "minority report" to a full convention vote, though he also said that this is something Hillary doesn't want to happen

* Confirmed that the Hillary campaign was likely to still try to woo super-dels even if she lost the popular vote, with Michigan and Florida counted

* Said that there was no risk of Hillary's efforts "tearing the party apart," described the current campaign as "genteel," and dismissed those worrying about the damage the campaign could do to the party as "hand-wringers"



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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:54 PM
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38. If I were the type who wore a tin-foil hat...
I'd say this was proof that she plans on defecting to the republicans if she loses the nomination.

Since I'm not that sort of person, I think it's just strong circumstantial evidence.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:17 PM
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39. Bill says "chill out"
Being likened to Judas by Hillary Clinton adviser James Carville did not sit well with Gov. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.).

"It is this kind of political venom that I anticipated from certain Clinton supporters and I campaigned against in my own run for president," Richardson writes today in the Washington Post.

"I can only say that we need to move on from the politics of personal insult and attacks. That era, personified by Carville and his ilk, has passed and I believe we must end the rancor and partisanship that has mired Washington in gridlock," writes the newly-bearded governor. "In my view, Sen. Obama represents our best hope of replacing division with unity."

I always enjoy the word "ilk."

Meanwhile, the San Francisco Chronicle provides a great glimpse at former President Bill Clinton not taking his own advice to "chill out."

Meeting privately with California's superdelegates at the Golden State Democratic Party convention, he turned red when Richardson's endorsement of Obama was raised.

"Five times to my face he said that he would never do that," Clinton "erupted."

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But then again, Bill is a hypocrite!

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:12 AM
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40. Of course this is Obama's fault!
:sarcasm:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:26 AM
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41. Sadly, the Borg have assimilated Hillary and Bill.
Remember when they used to be Democrats?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:29 AM
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42. Say hello to her leetle friend. . .
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:39 AM
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46. Clinton Ally Plays the Wright Card — Again
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