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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:55 PM
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Why do people say "let everyone vote". Are the rest of the primaries cancelled?
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:57 PM
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1. It's a stupid talking point. If Clinton drops out, they'll still get to vote n/t
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:59 PM
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4. thats what I'm thinking too. why exactly do candidates drop out...
they see the writing on the wall??? they run out of funds??? but people are still free to vote for them.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:05 PM
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7. You're right, but the voters in those remaining states would feel
like it doesn't matter if they vote of not. I lived in Pa. for 42 years, and although I could still vote for anyone I wanted, I sure felt like it didn't matter who I voted for or even if I bothered to vote at all in the late primaries they used to have.

Let the primary season play. If Obama is really the people's choice, he's win the remaining ones, and Hillary will go away. I don't understand why everyone is so anzious to get this primary season over. IT'S APRIL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a LONG way to November!
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:42 AM
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22. Look at the polls; McCain is getting stronger the longer this goes on
You can't ignore the fact that McCain has been getting away scot free with numerous gaffes while every little mistake from Obama and Clinton gets magnified.

And their votes still don't matter since Obama has already won by any measure. The only difference is that they can now delude themselves into thinking their votes do matter. According to Clinton, it'll be decided by the Superdelegates anyway.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:48 AM
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23. You may call it dulusional, and maybe it is, but my relatives live in PA.
and they are so excited that the first time in their lives (they're over 50) their primary vote is being watched! The ones who have told me who they're voting for are voting for Barack. Don't you think it would be WONDERFUL if he actually WON PA?

I'm not so sure McBush is getting stronger either. For the most part, he's being ignored.

And why do you think, once we have a nominee the media will be any harder on McBush? I'm thinkin' you might be a bit delusional on that one.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:56 AM
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26. If they don't get tougher with McBush, we're in big trouble
because then he's definitely going to win. I see no way any candidate can beat him unless the media starts examining his many flip-flops and gaffes.

And I do recognize many people are excited about voting in the primary for the first time, but that's not a good enough reason in my opinion to prolong the race and hurt our chances of winning in November.

All you have to do is look at Fox News and the Republicans. Their whole strategy has been to prolong the race by attacking Hillary when she was ahead and then Obama when he moved ahead.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:06 PM
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8. Yeah, because that's what the people of those states really care about--casting a meaningless ballot
in an uncontested race. As long as they get to go to the polls, it doesn't matter to them if they can influence the political proccess. Kind of like the way what Michigan and Florida really care about is sending a few random people from their states to some convention in Denver.

Steve
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:18 PM
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15. SOME FUCKING CHOICES WOULD BE NICE
EVER FUCKING THINK ABOUT THAT ???
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:58 PM
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2. It's in regards to the calls for Clinton to drop out.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:58 PM
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3. They can't think of any other reason
to argue that someone with no chance to win should keep campaigning.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:00 PM
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5. Before February 5th, she could have cared less about how much
the primaries following that date would matter. She did not need think she needed any of them.
She said it would be over on Super Tuesday. Now she is so concerned that all our votes matter.
Ya Sure!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:01 PM
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6. But nobody is stopping people from voting for her or anyone else.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:07 PM
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10. That criticism is ridiculous. Everyone thought it would be over by then. It turns out it wasn't
So we keep voting.

Steve
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:58 AM
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27. The point is we keep voting if Hillary drops out
or stays in. Her supporters can still vote for her. Her name is on the ballad.
She is acting as if you will be able to vote for her only if she is still contesting
the nomination as if her continuing is somehow protecting your vote.

That is her hypocrisy.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:19 AM
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29. This is ridiculous. If Clinton drops out the race is over. The rest of the states are
out of the process.

Steve
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:07 PM
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9. Excellent Point! The GOP is not whining about not getting to vote!!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:07 AM
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28. Do we want to be Stepford foot soldiers like them? If so, we would BE them.,
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:09 PM
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11. I think what they mean is...
...if someone in one of the later primaries wanted to vote for Dennis Kucinich or Joe Biden, they can't. The earlier states decided that for them.


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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:15 PM
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13. but they still can vote for kucinich or biden. its not like their names come off the ballots.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:23 PM
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18. Really? What if it's a caucus? n/t
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:38 PM
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20. thats true.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:09 PM
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12. It's just drama... code-speak to remind everyone
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 11:10 PM by SoCalDem
of the Florida debacle..

Of course primaries continue..even AFTER a candidate's been chosen, hence a LOT of HRC "new voters" who didn't see a reason to vote for mccain, but saw a LOT of reason to help him by choosing his opponent..

That's why I like closed primaries with a 6 month cut-off to switch parties...no mischief that way :)

The sad thing is that she thinks that all those repubes who showed up for her in Ohio & Texas and from here on out, will show up for her in the fall.. :rofl:
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:18 PM
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14. It is the neo liberal view, when your candidate is ahead demand the other candidate
quit so you win by default.

pretty cool huh? Rove would be proud of them.


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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:20 PM
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17. That has nothing to do with what I posted but thx I guess.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:50 AM
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25. They answered your question.
:shrug:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:19 PM
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16. I just wrote a thread about that
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:39 PM
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21. I saw that...and I posted in it.
:hi:
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:32 PM
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19. Maybe their talking about the super D's
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 11:32 PM by kokono
The people are sovereign and must be allowed to have their say. Once the people have had their say, the superdelegates have the right to overturn the peoples verdict.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:49 AM
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24. ...
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 12:51 AM by Jamastiene
:wow:

And to think, I've honestly been wondering if I will be able to vote in the primaries at all. See, I live in NC and we don't get to vote until May. Yet, Obama already has it all wrapped up. So, in effect, I never got a chance to have my say and probably won't. I guess that could be part of the reason some of us are saying that. :shrug:

I'd like to have the opportunity to vote too, ya know, considering I have always been a registered Democrat who always votes for Democrats in primaries and general elections. I know it's trivial and insignificant for me to want to vote in the primaries and all, but I would like to have the opportunity to vote too. :hi:
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