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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:35 AM
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Obama Sure Doesn't Know A Lot Of Things
Is he ignorant, clueless, unqualified or just willing to say and do anything to win?

Despite being the editor of the Harvard Law Review and a former law instructor, (he wasn't a "professor") he doesn’t know what “decriminalization” means

He didn’t know his nuclear energy bill didn’t pass.

He didn’t know that the chair of his New Hampshire campaign was a lobbyist.

Despite knowing Tony Rezko for almost 20 years, he had no idea he was a slum lord and influence peddler. And he can’t say for sure how much money Rezko raised for him.

Despite going to Pastor Wright’s church for 20 years, he had no idea before last year that he had said so many inflammatory things.

He didn’t always know that pushing the green button was a yes and not a no vote.

He didn’t know he had once advocated for single payer healthcare.

He didn’t know that his economic advisor had met with the Canadians and discussed NAFTA.

He didn’t know he voted for Dick Cheney’s 2005 Energy Bill.

He didn’t know what answers his campaign manager provided to questions on issues such as guns used to secure an important endorsement during his 1996 run.


Don't we have a POTUS that doesn't take responsibility for his own words and actions? Do you think America needs another one?

Another more detailed list at: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/24/213029/144

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:37 AM
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1. Were those real bullets coming from the hills of Tuzla or just rubber ones?
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:57 AM
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6. clinton projection syndrome at work
or CPS
it is evidenced by taking facts and reversing them to fit the argument
thereby framing it to your advantage

ie:
obama's supporters keep repeating their new rules for super-delegates = trying to game the rules at every opportunity to defy the democratic process and constantly move the goalposts
obama lies= snipergate
obama is in with the RW = press conference kissy faces with the MSM and Sciafe
obama is bad for the party = endorse the republican over obama
obama is tearing the party apart = tear the party apart with attacks on fellow dems by carville et al.


i think you see the pattern of CPS and probably have examples of CPS in action.
but
it isnt all bad,you can help
a small donation to obama 08 will help to return the center of this horrible dysfunction to chapaqua NY where hopefully it can be quarantined and cured.


leave hillary alone!!!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:59 AM
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7. They're exhausting to the mind...maybe we'll finally be done with them soon
I can always dream.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:30 PM
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59. How nice of you to want DU all to yourself.
Not going to happen. Deal with it.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:34 PM
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63. You're not part of the collective....deal with it...you will be assimilated!!!!! OBEY NOW OR DIE!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:36 PM
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65. Actually, you can have DU all to yourself if you put everyone else on ignore. nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:12 PM
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52. LOL
Yep, I want to leave Hillary alone for the next 40 years. She can go back to chapaqua or wherever.....Arkansas or whatever...... :headbang:
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:02 AM
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11. You really want to set the bar for the nominee that low?
If they try to bullshit everyone like Hillary does thats good enough for you?

I guess integrity is none to popular in a nominee for this party anymore.

By the way, don't expect me to defend Hillary, I have never defended the Clintons and will not start now. I also will not defend Obama's bullshit.


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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:10 AM
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16. Are you ignorant, clueless or just willing to post anything?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:22 AM
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27. facts obviously are not your forte.
but you think the unwitting not-quite-a professor will be able to hood wink the American public. I don't.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:12 AM
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17. no i don't, you do
:crazy:
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:19 AM
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23. Let me ask you this Goldie.
Are you one of those people who will vote for McCain if your girl doesn't get the nod? Will you be that spiteful and small? If so, you really are worthless.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:21 AM
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26. Congratulations! That's the way to dodge the issue at hand!
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:22 PM
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49. The Truth Hurts I See
Why on earth would Hillary intentionally lie about Bosnia when the story is easily checked? Did it ever occur to any of you Hillary Hating Einstein that perhaps remembered the wrong incident? No of course not. The Evil Hillary is just plain Evil. Obama is now the new patron saint of the gullible.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:15 PM
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55. It is inconceivable
that the First Lady and her daughter would ever been put in a situation where she was in danger of sniper fire. She lied, she lied, she lied. No matter how you try to spin it, SHE LIED.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:30 PM
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53. Quickly -- divert! divert! ---- NT
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:15 PM
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72. Best comeback of the century.
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 09:16 PM by MATTMAN
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:38 AM
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2. Yeah Obama is the ignorant one, Goldie.
:sarcasm:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:39 AM
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3. Seems Like He Knows How To Run A Winning Presidential Campaign Though...
Unlike some others.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:50 AM
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4. ...and pays his bills.
;)
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:27 PM
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58. He knows how to run a presidential campaign all right...
especially the caucuses. Ummm, there ain't none of them varmints in the GE.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:51 AM
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5. recommend
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:00 AM
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8. Sorry The UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO said he WAS a law professor.
I really don't care what you say. I'll go with the U of C:


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html

The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer."

From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:08 AM
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14. LOL thanks they call him a "Senior Lecturer"
between a Lecturer and a Professor, not full-time or tenure-track.

parse it baby :rofl:
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:21 AM
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25. no the article from U of C says he was a professor and offered tenure.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:32 PM
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61. He was not a professor.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:37 PM
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66. You know what EmilyG? These people could say that he is the second coming
but you would never talk them out of it....it's no good...YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED

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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:40 PM
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68. Democrats still trying to shoot down the the probable Nominee.. have you no shame... IDIOTS!
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:40 PM by rAVES
Woops, that was meant as a reply to OP :o
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:43 PM
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70. Yeah...I didn't think that was for me! You said "probable" nominee
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: oh god
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:34 PM
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64. He was not a Full professor.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:30 AM
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75. Professor Vs. Senior Lecturer
The U of Chicago is going to defend whatever Obama says, because NOTHING could be better for their reputation in academia than to have a President on their faculty.

As a faculty member, I know that a senior lecturer is far, far from a professor. Professors have to undergo a rigorous search process in order to get a tenure-track position. Those searches are governed by rules of the University. They can't be granted via nepotism. They are EXTREMELY competitive positions, and in law schools, one position can draw over 100 applicants, all with outstanding credentials. Once one is hired (usually at assistant professor level), s/he has to publish in order to advance. Once one advances through assistant professor, one is considered for full professorship (tenure). Until then, they can be fired at any time. Once they achieve tenure, it's quite hard to ever be fired, and the pressure to produce publications lessens.

Lecturers, on the other hand, submit their vitaes into a lecturer pool, from which the department or school chooses when they need someone to teach a class. Someone who has lectured for awhile can become a senior lecturer (a lecturer with continuing employment, but not tenure). A senior lecturer could never become a tenure-track professor (let alone a full professor) unless s/he went through the search process like everyone else.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:01 AM
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9. Some good points OP
I would also add he supports DOMA as well. He needs to go to his web site and state he denounces it.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:02 AM
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10. Hey now! He will run his presidency like shrub, using surrogates and
everyone knows how swell that has turned out.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:02 AM
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12. This again.
yippee. :eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:32 PM
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62. yup. You no likey??
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #62
67. It is blasphemous to speak out against any saint, but St. Obama?
forget it....as I said before....YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED

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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #67
74. sounds like Jonestown
but I am not drinking the Obama Juice
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:08 AM
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13. This is just sad.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:12 AM
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18. Yes it is, pathetic actually
We should have a much better nominee.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:08 AM
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15. Now tell us why we should be happy that your candidate is still in the race
Since she can't tell the truth from a "misstatement" how are we going to trust her, which is my biggest problem with her.

Since she can't/won't pay her bills but lies and say's she did and since she supported NAFTA but lied and said she didn't and since she is making all sorts of statements about her qualifications that aren't true, how is average Joe American going to trust her enough to vote for her in the Novermber election?

Survey says...it's not going to happen.

Why not get behind Obama and prepare for battle against McCain this summer.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:13 AM
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19. Why not support a more progressive candidate
Like Gravel. Look at his issues. Look at his statements about Iraq. Look at UHC and same sex marriage and fair tax.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:18 AM
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22. Gravel is now a libertarian
I'm not down with that. I wish that Kucinich and Edwards were still here but seeing as it's either another term of untrustworthy bs or a fresh start in the right direction, I'm behind Senator Obama.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:26 AM
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29. OhioBlues he is a libertarian and you know what
He has NOT changed his issues. Go look at his site and look at his issues.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:32 AM
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32. I do not agree with the "all about me"
libertarian doctrine. He had some excellent points but he choose to go off in the wrong direction by changing party affiliation.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:00 AM
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37. OhioBlues any candidate that abdocates
Anti-War, Same Sex Marriage, UHC, Fare Tax, Choice has my vote. Can your candidate say the same thing?
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:08 AM
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40. Not on all of those
and I understand the need to back someone who espouses all of our views but I can't back a libertarian.

It will probably take another 4 to 8 years to get the populace ready for some the bigger issues. Perhaps we can make headway on wars and ss marriage. I am sorry but even if Mike was still a democrat he just couldn't win this and we need to take the next best step.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:15 AM
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20. And defend this BS?
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:17 AM by GoldieAZ49
don't expect me to defend Hillary, I have never defended the Clintons and will not start now. I also will not defend Obama's bullshit.

What else don't we know about what Obama doesn't know?? yeah, isn't that special.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:21 AM
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24. Which bs are you saying you can't defend?
You know there are always going to be compromises especially in politics. The same can be said about Senator Clinton.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:17 AM
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21. Thanks for your post Goldie...
Today is payday, and I just sent $100.00 dollars to Obama. You were the inspiration!

:hi:
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:25 AM
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28. Your welcome, anything I can do to help you waste your money
before Obama raises your taxes, to help you adjust to the lower income. Just being of service. :hi:
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #28
35. Oh you poor misguided Goldie...
Maybe I should make it $200.00...
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:04 AM
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38. Don't be cheap, make it $500 every payday until you hit the limit
he needs the money more than you do, why should he have to dip into his own pockets to fund his campaign. Let him keep that million + annual income, come on, give til it hurts!

:rofl:
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #38
41. Because he's defeating your candidate handily.
I'll save my money for the celebration party.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:28 AM
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43. defeating Hillary does not put him in the WH
and Romney proved you cannot buy votes, I don't think any candidate spent more than he for primary votes

come on, at least make it $200 today


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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #43
44. No, plenty of rubes out there that make sure that DOESN'T happen.
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amk Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:28 AM
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30. MyDD indeed
You have left out faux news, hillaryis44.com et al.

MyDD indeed !!!!!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. I am sure what he didn't know is posted all over the web
why do you hide from other viewpoints than your own?
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amk Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. May be you should ask this question to MyDD
You should ask this question about listening to other view points to MyDD, Hillaryis44 et al since they don't allow any pro-obama posts there.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:44 AM
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34. Hey
How is that cash flow working out for Hillary ?
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amk Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:58 AM
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36. No probs with cash fellow
Now that we are stiffing small business people, our own campaign staff, my own school, we are doing great moneywise !

BTW, can you spare me a dime ?

Yours forever Hillary
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:12 PM
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73. Check her website. She is doing great. Any you look foolish
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:08 AM
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39. Nice piece of fiction.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #39
42. ah, so you think he did know all along
I think so too.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:57 AM
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45. K&R..
Good research! :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:51 PM
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46. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:54 PM
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47. mydd sure has gone downhill
It used to be such a good site.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:03 PM
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48. He doesn't know that babies aren't punishment.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:33 PM
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50. sorry but http://www.myddbullshit is a right-wing source now.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. LMAO
That wasn't the 'source' just another list out there.

Anything and anyone that doesn't kneel at the Obama alter is right wing :rofl:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:55 PM
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54. I saw rezko and wright. Then I realized I was looking at bullshit.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. Its not BS to the American voters that have not drank
the Obama Juice, here have another cup so you will be completely blind sided :beer:


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:22 PM
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57. HEY LOOK! OBAMBI SOMEHOW IS ABLE TO COLLUDE WITH CRIME BOSSES AND NEVER GET CAUGHT!
At least keep your messages consistent.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #57
71. OBAMBI???? cute
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:32 PM
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60. Altzheimer's??
Maybe? He is so proficient in everything, he knows all, sees all, he must be the messiah?
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #60
69. Don't you know? He is omnipotent and omniscient !
You better sleep with one eye open! for whatever good it will do you
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