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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:22 PM Original message |
Hillary with a 12 point spread over Obama |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. is this a "wide stance"? |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Is your comment an "out of body" experience? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Silly--this is how threads work--Go post the one you are crying about. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Ah...Rodeodance. How I miss your pithy retorts. n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I do not miss your hillary hate |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Hes only a ghost that says "IgnooOOOoooooored" |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. Actually, its 14.2 now, and her lead has closed from 19 points in that SUSA poll |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Geographics are interesting |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. We have 3 weeks to go, so I doubt that the lead will even hold up (if true in the first place). n/t |
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olkaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. The SD's are ready to finish this thing. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. 12 points is great |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. K and R |
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gabeana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Why are you K and R |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. because I wanted to |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Here rodeodance... |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. He keeps chipping into that lead. |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. 12? More bad news for Hillary, Thanks for the Great post!! K&R |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. No, thank you for your rather inane |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. She has to win by 20 points to gain ten delegates out of Pennsylvania |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. See a trend? |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. It's interesting how much the two poll aggregating sites differ |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. Taking the average of 5 polls reduces the margin of error |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. Here's an odd factoid from SUSA's explanation of the pop. sample |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I think they eliminate the people who are not registered |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Ah, that's reassuring |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. That is one of the reasons I prefer Pollster.com |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Thanks for the link and the explanation |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
49. See my post above |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Down from 19 in the same poll 2 weeks ago |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. 12 isn't enough. |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Since you BO surrogates like to throw around present |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Pew was one poll, and probably an outlier |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Well, how long did you expect to milk that |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. My respect for people in general may go down a notch. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. From looking at the trend in the link to RCP you posted |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
19. I heard the latest criteria is rally turn-out. The super delegates will be going over photos, video |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. and what did Survey USA have before ?? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. Keep dreaming |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. 12 points isn't even close to enough... |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
29. I'll bet the Hillary fans don't have the monopoly |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. And??? |
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olkaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I don't agree with you, but... |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Thank you for your nice, pleasant reply about the former First Lady. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Let's keep it civil here, por favor |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. Ask the same question after North Carolina.... |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. When was the last time a Democrat won North Carolina in the GE? |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
32. Let's see - Rasmussen has a slightly different pic, bucko. |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Little Beaver, I now understand how you Obama surrogates |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Dream on - |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Your tone is starting to get a bit nasty sir. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. I would call Rassmussen an outlier. |
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CTD (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
34. She needs to win by 50+% to stay alive mathematically. 75+% of the vote. |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Well, let's consider another scenario. |
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CTD (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Which could be called the "Changing the rules in the middle of the game" scenario |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. No it isn't |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Sir, I appreciate your civil tone. However, |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
38. Even if she does win by 14 points, Obama will still have 400-500k votes more than her |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Excuse me, you had better check my last post. |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
47. You do know that she can't end up with the popular vote lead, right? |
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hell-bent (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. Well, one columnist at U.S. News and World Report thinks |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
52. The Obama's say "who needs PA, OH, FLA?" --- NT |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. ONLY a 5 point lead in PA |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
59. Obama's now grabbed Men in PA and in SW PA 14 Point Swing |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. "Obama's now grabbed Men in PA" He'll do anything, *anything* to win. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
64. It's five in Rasmussen but I think she'll win PA overwhelmingly. |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
65. Bad news for Hillary, really. |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. What if she ends up w/most popular votes? |
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