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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:49 PM Original message |
If you want the whole anti gay minister thing to go away |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. The anti-gay minister "thing" isnt even a "thing". |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. that is baldly false |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Other than UU... who is openly affirming? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. The UCC is for one |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. A good start but still not the majority. nt |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. One thing you should know: |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. There are lots |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
90. "lots" are not the majority. nt |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
86. Also the Association of Welcoming & Affirming Baptists ... |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. The Methodist church I belong to is PRO-GAY. They have made a point of asking all their parishioners |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. I know there are pro-gay churches scattered throughout all religions. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. No, people should be judged by what they themselves believe. |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Membership is one thing, expectations of clergy is something else |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. Episcopalian.... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. really? how very odd |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Your quote: "the heads of most bigoted religions are anti-gay" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hope you can resolve this issue for yourself. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm afraid the Obamanauts are too busy humming the Obama Girl song |
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stevietheman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm gay, and Please stop the attacks on our nominee Barack Obama. n/t |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. please quote the attack |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. attack? you didn't talk about how wonderful he is |
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DarienComp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. Me=gay and for Obama. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. First off, Richardson couldn't even ADMIT THAT PEOPLE WERE BORN GAY. I guess we can dismiss the rest |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. It was one of the reasons I left his campaign |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't see what the big deal is... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. first I will vote for the nominee no matter what |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Rev Wright? I find that hard to believe |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Wright evolved from what I can tell |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
14. Clinton and Obama share one thing |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. This "Anti-Gay Minister thing" was never a thing in the first place. |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. You can thank Bill Clinton for DADT. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. sorry but that is totally false |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. It was said at the time that he could have issued |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. sorry but the people saying that were either misinformed or liars |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You can still ban sodomy without going after gay people. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I guess you aren't familiar with the witch hunts they had before |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I'm familiar with those. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Oh please |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Sexuality is not a preference. |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I didn't mean that. It's just a commonly used expression. |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. Who was commander in chief? Clinton or Colin Powell? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. He could have permitted celebrate gays to serve |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. celebrate gays???? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. sodomy, at least as the military defines it, pretty much |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. You don't understand the function of the commander in chief |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Oh, you mean totally "celibate" |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. sorry I can't spell well |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I'm not a mind reader |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. It was "said" but it was/is not true. eom |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. Why did Bill Clinton make the pledge to gay people that he would end military discrimination |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. likely he didn't know |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Of couse he knew |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. under Ike |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Ike signed what anti-gay bill into law? Be specific. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. It would have been by executive order |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. Just wanted to say, I'm not ignoring you. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. He never gave a timeline but did get forced to do it too fast |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. With all due respect, dsc, all that stuff about Hillary's association with gays is news to me. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. The lesbian baby sitter I only heard of recently |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'm a lesbian and I will back the nominee who will be Obama. |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
29. The "Obama thing"? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. that is only true about DOMA |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. Rev. Wright has publicly supported gay rights |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Don't bring logic into this thread, it hurts the Hillbots' brains. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Holy trolly! |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Yeah, stop being logical and factual ... it hurts Hillary's supporters who |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. I have no problems with Wright |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. Maybe we like. After all the months, it's like an old friend. I'd miss it. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
43. Too much "we" in the singular |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I am not denying that she has homophobes involved in her campaign |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. What pattern? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I have lived in Chicago |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. But he hasn't listened to him so far . . . |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. ummm... hillary has been very good with gay rights, even marching in NY |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. What anti-gay minister are you talking about? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. there are now three McClurkin, Meeks and the one from Texas |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. So it's a dishonest & confused title |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. funny you are the only person confused |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. You mentioned no name of any minister in your OP |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
81. Who's this one from Texas? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I honestly can't recall his name |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. You can't even recall his name and yet you make him one the subjects of your thread? |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. You nailed it for me. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
64. There ARE two Clintons, you know... |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
65. What judgments have you made about the WIFE of the guy who signed DOMA into LAW!!!! |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
68. A respectful argument that Obama is the best choice for the gay community. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. then why isn't he speaking to David Duke or Klan chaplins |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
77. "If Obama has prominate gay associations": How about his Deputy National Campaign Director? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. that is a start |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I don't know, either- but I've seen him quoted in high profile campaign related pieces that have |
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