Hillary FIRED for LIES and UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR

[gaiilonfong]

Gee who wudda thunk?

http://www.northstarwriters.com/dc163.htm

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Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. <…> When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career. <…> “Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

[polichick]

1. Is this an April Fool's thing??

[rox63]

4. Delete

I don't want to spread RW smears, even if I don't support Hillary.

[polichick]

5. I read it, but there's still something fishy here. Hmmm

[polpilot]

38. 'lies & unethical behavior'...the Clintons? Bill? Hillary? Could it be??

[leftofcool]

2. More info from a RW rag already debunked

[depakid]

8. If it's untrue, then it would be difficult to find a better libel case

Seems to me that if more Democrats took advantage of defamation laws, this sort of deal would happen a lot less frequently.

[BuyingThyme]

9. Link?

[LittleClarkie]

28. How about the man's own website?

http://www.jzeifman.com/

It's the second article down from the top.

But if this has been debunked, would you mind providing a link to the debunking. I'd like to read it. Thanks.

[walldude]

3. Even Obama supporters don't want crap like that posted here

I hope....

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. No, they like to make up their own.

[Cheap_Trick]

31. Hilarity supporters aren't imaginitve enough

so they like to get their Obama slander straight from Fox News, News Max, World Nut Daily and Rush Limbaugh.

[ekwhite]

59. Enough of that crap

We don't need any more of this - we need to save the insults for McLame.

[walldude]

32. Why be an ass..

I stick up for Hillary and get insulted. It's no wonder your candidate is fucking losing.

[BuyingThyme]

11. Why?

[walldude]

34. Because at the time her name wasn't even Clinton

And really maybe her and this guy just didn't get along. I'm not worried about the candidates past I'm worried about the future, and even though I'm for Obama, we need both candidates primed and ready.

[BuyingThyme]

39. I would like to know more about Hillary's efforts to keep

one of the JFK assassins off the stand. Wouldn't you?

[JayFredMuggs]

12. Not even if it's TRUE?

I want to know the facts.

[Cant trust em]

6. You should really change your sigline.

I'm an Obama supporter, by the way.

[Life Long Dem]

10. She's making bad comments over Obama.

He's in the gutter, to get out of the gutter and end his race.

[Cant trust em]

14. What does that have to do with the OP?

Let's not change the subject here.

[ekwhite]

60. She was making a joke about his bowling for crying out loud!

A bad joke, but a joke none the less.

[TwilightGardener]

13. RW stuff, posted and dismissed yesterday.

[BuyingThyme]

15. Dismissed by whom? Why?

[TwilightGardener]

22. Well, dismissed by all the people who looked up the author and found

him to be nutz. And dismissed by me, because it's a RW-leaning website.

[MethuenProgressive]

24. ..in a thread BuyingThyme posted to. So why playing dumb?

What odd behavior on display by the DUbamas lately.

[TwilightGardener]

27. You're asking the wrong person. I called BS on this pretty early.

[Name removed]

29. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[BuyingThyme]

67. The thread referenced by MethuenProgressive is fictional.

It does not exist.

MethuenProgressive is working very hard to pretend otherwise.

[LittleClarkie]

33. Nuts how? I've never heard of him.

Did he switch parties?

Thanks for any info.

[TwilightGardener]

36. There were some DUers who researched some other stuff he wrote

that apparently wasn't credible. I didn't look it up myself, but the fact that Freepers frequently link to "North Star Writers Group" and their RW-slanted stories made me suspicious that it's another World Nut Daily or Newsmax.

[KittyWampus]

40. let me be clear- this man's records on the Nixon case are available to the publicic

and what he wrote about Clinton's record serving on the staff involved mostly FACTS.

[TwilightGardener]

44. OK--like I said, I didn't find the source very credible. I would rather that

all supporters of either candidate stick to non-right-winger sources if possible. I hate trying to figure out what's spin and what's fact, but if you say it's mostly factual, then I believe you.

[LittleClarkie]

48. I agree with that. Find something other than a NewsMax style source

and that goes for BOTH sides

[ekwhite]

62. Agreed. I am not a Hillary Clinton fan, but let's stick to credible sources, please. N/T

[MethuenProgressive]

16. More RW smears posted to DU by Obama supporters.

Shame on you.

[BuyingThyme]

18. If you know what you're talking about, explain the smear part.

[Forkboy]

49. LOL...you never seem to mind the RW sites used by the Hillary supporters.

Shame on you. :rofl:

[ekwhite]

64. Seems like you are tarring us all with the same brush

Most of us Obama supporters are skeptical of the claim. Do you think you could acknowledge that fact?

[jillan]

17. I think you made a mistake - this is Democratic Underground - NOT the

FreeRepublic.... which is where I would expect to read this crap...not here.

[BuyingThyme]

19. Why?

Would one of you explain why?

[ekwhite]

65. Because it is most likely false

If it is true, we want to see a source more credible than something other than a right-wing site. They are known for promoting conspiracy theories and smears (the right wing in general - I have never heard of this site before). If the source is dubious, I want to see corroboration. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[MethuenProgressive]

23. It's really shameful DU members post - and defend - theses RW smears of Clinton.

Shame on them.

[cali]

25. too bad YOU NEVER speak out on the endless rightwing smears

of Obama. When you do you might have a shred of credibility for your bitching.

[MethuenProgressive]

26. Don't make shit up to bitch about cali. Leave that to Obama.

He's better at it than you are.

[scheming daemons]

30. You Hillbots have posted links to Hannity, drudge, newsmax, WND, and others....

...don't lie, MP.

[Forkboy]

50. Looks like cali has you pegged too.

:rofl:

Hypocrisy, it's not just for breakfast anymore.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

20. As I pointed out in a post yesterday, Zeifman is a fucking whackjob.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5331610&mesg_id=5333042

[KittyWampus]

41. totally irrelevant to the FACTS he states. They are part of the historical record.

[BuyingThyme]

45. What do you see in there that made you conclude that he's a whackjob?

(Besides the fact that NewsMax is one of the few organizations which bothers to publish his articles.)

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

47. The fact that his tirades against Democrats...

...are, like clockwork, invariably preceded by some variation of his "life-long Democrat" utterance. And the fact that his actual opinions are ridiculous.

[Texas Hill Country]

21. total bullshit... there would have been disbarment complaints.

[grantcart]

35. without reading any details it doesn't have any credibility

no one has been scrutinized more than the Clintons. If this was true then it would have come out in the 90's

[BuyingThyme]

42. Republicans would not want this to come out.

Neither would Democrats.

[zulchzulu]

37. That's part of her experience she brags about

What a role model...

:puke:

[cbayer]

43. Before you throw this particular gauntlet down,

you may want to do a little more research. This has to do with internal disputes concerning the Nixon impeachment. She was making recommendations that would benefit the democratic party and was dismissed for that. I am not going to outline the whole scenario here, but this episode probably does more to help her than hurt her.

[BuyingThyme]

46. Airing of efforts to keep Howard Hunt off the stand cannot help her.

[bunnies]

51. You GO Girrrrl!!!

Rah Rah!

Right? :shrug:

[DerekJ]

52. I am an Obama supporter, and I am not going after what Hillary did 30 years ago.

It's ridiculous.

However, at least it's not another one of those "Bowling" threads.

[Forkboy]

53. Some pretty weak stuff, if you ask me.

Which of course you didn't.

[BuyingThyme]

54. kcik

[Unbowed]

55. I wonder if we'll see this on the news shows?

Someone should be able to connect the dots on her history of fabrication and deception.

[BuyingThyme]

68. We're talking about Watergate and the JFK assassination.

No corporate media will ever touch it.

Way too much reality here.

[Unbowed]

80. Too bad. It's a real story.

It should be heard.

[Timefortruth]

70. Please don't hold your breath

It could be fatal.

[Unbowed]

79. I'm not. We still haven't heard a peep about "The Family" either.

[madrchsod]

56. no one else but this guy is claiming this...

if the story has merit another source needs to come forward

[ekwhite]

57. I don't buy it

This needs a serious investigation. I would want to see more proof, personally.

[ShaneGR]

58. Besides the trashy article with no basis in fact... your sigline.... wutzzup with that?

Seriously, have some class.

[McCamy Taylor]

61. Zeifman "lifelong Democrat" aka RW shill had a cottage industry in the 1990s

writing Hillary and Clinton bashing books. It is the only way he could get published. When that business dried up, he went on to promote himself as a "lifelong Democrat" while writing for Newsmax on such topics as why

1. Terry McAuliffe should be prosecute for mail fraud in 2002 for sending out campaign literature saying that the GOP wanted to privatize Social Security

2. Saying that Pelosi should resign as House Speaker for questioning Bush's view on the war and visiting Syria

3. Calling Ted Kennedy a traitor for objecting to W.'s SCOTUS nominees including Alito.

Zeifman is a big fat stinking liar whose only claim to fame is that he was able to publish books by making up lies about the Clintons and then he became a RW shill, so now his label of "lifelong Democrat" is revealed to the whole world to be a big fat lie too.

[BuyingThyme]

69. Can you give us some examples of the lies about the Clintons?

Not personal attacks or legal opinions, but lies.

[bhikkhu]

78. Compare & Contrast: Zeifman vs Wilentz

If you have the time...

Your description of Zeifman is very similar to a description on another thread of Wilentz. I only ask because you seem to be one of the most reliably objective and reference-based posters here, and I am curious.

[McCamy Taylor]

63. 14 recommends for the work of a RW shill like this? How low can DU sink?

[ekwhite]

66. That is not really a lot of recommends

There must be a lot more than 14 RW shills on this site.

[BuyingThyme]

71. kcik

[BuyingThyme]

72. kcik

[AmericanUnity]

73. Hillary IS a proven liar. Her stalling Bosnia for her health care plan cost 250,000 lives

[McCamy Taylor]

75. That was another bit of hearsay, Bush Sr. Somalia dirty trick caused a reaction in the US

that made the public resist going to the aid of any foreign country, Only Rwanda turned the tide.

[Cha]

74. I've read this before..hilary has been corrupt

most of her life and now she's crapping all over the Democratic Party.

You can damn well bet if Obama were behind hilary and her henchcrew would be calling for his head.

[McCamy Taylor]

76. The Germans heard the Big Lies about the Jewish people a lot, too.

That did not make them true.

[McCamy Taylor]

77. Is this thread some kind of Psych 101 propaganda test or something?

[Hepburn]

81. Foooooooooooooouck!

Wow....that is a really strongly worded bash...and coming from a source who would know.