Did HRC supporters ever defend her meeting with Melon Scaife?

[Ned_Devine]

And if they did, what was the defense? I can't imagine

[Demeter]

1. Bipartisanship, I Believe, Was Hillary's Defense

The fable about the frog and the scorpion comes to mind....

[Zhade]

28. Bipartisanship with the man personally behind rightwing attacks on her and her husband in the 90s!

I mean, seriously, wtf?

Great reference, btw...

[dsc]

2. I have no problem with her meeting with an editor

which is what she did. Evidently he is against the war which I didn't know.

[Ned_Devine]

3. He was also against her husband and every step he took between...

...1992 and january 2001

[dsc]

11. yes and both Dean and Obama

went on the 700 club, I don't recall you complaining about that.

[cali]

14. I complained about it and Hilly went on it too

Furthermore I do have a problem with the sucking up to the worst of the rightwing media that the Clintons have been engaged in. Liason to Drudge, Murdoch, Scaife. It will backfire on them- and us.

[ClassWarrior]

5. An editor? ROFLMAO...

Yeah, and Jeffrey Dahmer was just a taxidermy buff.

NGU.

[dsc]

12. Obama was on the 700 club

just how is that different?

[cali]

15. let's see: How about Robertson didn't run a project to take

down a democratic administration? duh.

[dsc]

35. the Christian Coalition sure was involved up to its eyebrows in that

[JayFredMuggs]

21. If you don't know the difference between a public appearance on a TV show and

a private closed meeting............what are you doing posting on a politics board?

[dsc]

36. It wasn't closed or else we wouldn't know about what happened

it was an interview and the interview was put in the paper. This is exactly what the 700 club does.

[americanstranger]

39. Yeah, if it's in Scaife's paper, you can believe it!

(Bangs head on desk.)

- as

[dsc]

43. Well I hope she had the smarts to ask for some neutral recording of the interview

so if Scaife says she told him she eats babies for breakfast she could verify she didn't. I am assuming there is either a tape or transcript somewhere.

[americanstranger]

45. I'm thinking more along the lines of an 'off the record' meeting.

Who knows what was said OTR?

Vaguely frightening, if you ask me. She should know better than to even be in the same room with scum like that.

- as

[dsc]

47. I don't think endorsement interviews are off the record

and that is what this was. If she didn't get a neutral recording then I would be appalled.

[Zhade]

30. ...

You owe me a new monitor!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. RMS=editor, now.

I never thought I would see this.

[dsc]

13. He is, how is this different from the 700 club

which Obama went on.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. I'm saddened.

Go in peace.

[sellitman]

8. That wasn't just any editor.

He is the Carl Rove of Editors.

But then again I'm sure you know his history.

[sellitman]

9. Duplicate post

Mouse hung up.

[Forkboy]

17. Some editor dsc....how do you feel about him supporting shit like this?

Cliff Kincaid is a right-wing writer and activist who has been a longtime critic of the United Nations and other multinational organizations. He is also a writer and editor at Accuracy in Media (AIM), a right-wing media "watchdog" organization. He has received significant support for his work from foundations controlled by right-wing financier Richard Mellon Scaife, who has funded AIM as as well as Kincaid's own organization, America's Survival. America's Survival is dedicated to "educat the American people and to expos the influence of global institutions, including an International Criminal Court, on their lives." The organization appears to be run from Kincaid's personal residence.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

In a December 13, 2005 column, Kincaid called for a "Quit Gay Sex" campaign to rival "Quit Smoking Campaigns" launched by certain media outlets in the United States. He contended that homosexual sex is widespread and homosexual men "simply cannot stop having homosexual sex" and that it was spreading HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.

...75 percent of AIM's funding comes from contributors donating US$100 or less. Only three donors of the remainder are given by name: the Allied Educational Foundation, Shelby Cullom Davis, and billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife. Scaife gave $2 million to Accuracy in Media since 1977 -1997.<15>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_in_Media

[dsc]

37. about the same as I feel about Robertson's various funding adventures

and Obama went on there.

[Forkboy]

38. Which is? Both bother you? Neither bother you?

:shrug:

[dsc]

42. I think they are both slime

but that doesn't mean our candidates can't be interviewed by them. Frankly, in the case of Robertson, I don't see the percentage but in the case of Scaife, it might end up making sense. He is apparently against the war, pissed at Bush, has always been pro choice, and thus might be willing to at least not be as much a problem as before. I think it made Hillary look courageous, evidently she charmed the room (it was an interview with several editors), and I don't see that as a bad thing. Now if she starts spouting Scaife inspired nutty ideas then that is a problem. And frankly, if an interview would keep Robertson from being his loony self, then sign my ass up too.

[Forkboy]

44. I'm of the belief that leopards never change their spots.

And dining with the devil comes back to haunt a lot of people.

[dsc]

46. well I do believe people can change

8 years ago today I was drunk and likely passed out by now. I know this not because April 1, 2000 is a special day, but because it was a usual day and I was usually passed out drunk by this time 8 years ago. I celebrate 8 years sober on April 9th. People can change. I am proof of that.

[Forkboy]

48. But, even a drunk can still be a good person underneath the addiction.

You were a good person to start with, so your spots haven't changed. The Scaifes and Robertsons of this world never started from that base of goodness.

A big congrats on your 8 years. I now from people close to me that it's not an easy struggle.

[dsc]

49. well thanks

It hasn't always been easy. This year has been long. I am beginning to think election years end up being very momentous for me. 2000 became sober, 2004 moved here and got job, 2008 came out at work, gang fight at work.

[mod mom]

4. Did they explain how the Bosnia lie was ok? Or her failure to release TAX RETURNS?

or the amount of material redacted in her WH papers? Or her "exaggeration" of the Irish Peace Process?

I have to believe after all the above-it takes blind devotion to back Sen Clinton.

[McCamy Taylor]

7. Yes, I think the same day Obama defended his praise of Reagan's style

[The Night Owl]

10. Didn't Barack Obama say that he would meet with dictators?

Using the Obamaton logic routine which forces Obamatons to believe that Hillary Clinton agrees with everyone she meets, I guess I have to assume that Barack Obama will agree with every dictator he meets with.

[cali]

18. Dipolomacy with adversaries is not the same thing as sucking

up to a man who accused you of murdering your friend, and funded a project to take down your husband's administration. Not even close. try again.

[Ned_Devine]

19. because the US doesn't meet with dictators? I don't follow

[anonymous171]

20. Isn't Hillary a fighter who takes no prisoners? Why is she conspiring with the enemy?

[americanstranger]

23. Beause he's NOT the enemy any more.

Obama is The Enemy now.

And Scaife knows how to deal with The Enemy. Who would know that better than the Clintons?

- as

[cali]

24. Obama is the enemy?

You're confused. McCain is the enemy.

[Ned_Devine]

26. I believe the poster was being sarcastic

[americanstranger]

33. Never figured out the 'sarcasm' smiley.

What I meant was...

Scaife is no longer Hillary's enemy. Obama is now Hillary's enemy.

I'll try to be more clear in the future.

- as

[Ned_Devine]

22. so the defense seems to be: "Scaife is just an editor. Nothing to see here."

Does that about sum it up?

[Zhade]

25. I can't imagine how they dismiss her Tuzla lies about nonexistent sniper fire either, but they do.

Surely some of them must realize they're endorsing a liar, but are just too stubborn to accept it (like she can't accept her loss).

[Ned_Devine]

29. "It's not a lie if you believe it." - George Costanza

[Zhade]

31. Oh, so she's delusional? Great, that's much better.

We already have one delusional prez, thanks!

[NashVegas]

27. I'm Pretty Sure I Did

For one thing, it takes a hellofalot more balls to sit down with your biggest detractors than your biggest fans.

For another, it's not like she's going to get a fair shake from MSNBC, TPM, or TNR so why the heck not?

[Ned_Devine]

32. Vote for the candidate w/the biggest balls! Like Admiral Codpiece Bush

[Zhade]

34. Wait. Did you actually suggest that SCAIFE will be fairer to her than the rest of the media?

What fucking planet are you on? How do you reach such a level of illogic?

[TheDonkey]

41. It's not Kool Aid the Hillbots are sipping it is Coolant

[NashVegas]

51. Read Any TPM Lately?

If there's punditry anywhere you'd expect to be friendly to a Democratic Presidential candidate, that's the place. Alas, Josh is solidly in the bag for Obama. Same thing with Keith O and most of the rest of the so-called liberal media.

[TheDonkey]

40. McClurkenz

I think was the preferred response.

[Autumn]

50. As a Hillary supporter the only defense I can

think of it that she is going after the Christian vote. You know those wusses who seem to think one should forgive their enemies. What a bitch:sarcasm: