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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:35 PM
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Hannity falsely claimed Obama was "talking about the issue of abortion"
Hannity falsely claimed Obama was "talking about the issue of abortion" when he made "punished with a baby" comment

http://mediamatters.org/items/200804010001

On the March 31 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, while discussing the 2008 presidential race with Fox News political analyst Karl Rove, co-host Sean Hannity falsely claimed that Sen. Barack Obama "made a statement over the weekend talking about the issue of abortion. If people make a mistake, quote, 'I don't want them punished with a baby,' unquote." In fact, as Media Matters for America documented, Obama made the comment in response to what CNN reported was "a question about how his administration, if he's elected, would deal with the issue of HIV and AIDS and also sexually transmitted diseases with young girls." Indeed, as video of the March 29 campaign event, broadcast by CNN, shows, Obama was discussing sex education, not abortion, when he made the comment Hannity highlighted.

As Media Matters documented, on the March 31 edition of MSNBC Live, NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell also falsely suggested that Obama was discussing abortion when he made the "punished with a baby" comment.

From the March 29 edition of CNN's Ballot Bowl 2008:

SNOW: Welcome back to CNN's edition of Ballot Bowl. This is a chance for you to hear directly from the candidates. I'm Mary Snow in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, where Senator Barack Obama is holding a town hall meeting right now, taking questions from the audience. Let's go straight to Senator Barack Obama; he just was asked a question about how his administration, if he's elected, would deal with the issue of HIV and AIDS and also sexually transmitted diseases with young girls. Here's Senator Barack Obama.

OBAMA: -- or we give them really expensive surgery and we don't spend money on the front end keeping people healthy in the first place. So, when it comes to -- when it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include -- which should include abstinence only -- should include abstinence education and teaching that children -- teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters -- 9 years old and 6 years old. I'm going to teach them first of all about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16.

You know, so, it doesn't make sense to not give them information. You still want to teach them the morals and the values to make good decisions. That will be important, number one. Then we're still going to have to provide better treatment for those who do have -- who do contract HIV/AIDS, because it's no longer a death sentence, if, in fact, you get the proper cocktails. It's expensive. That's why we want to prevent as much as possible.

But we should also provide better treatment. And we should focus on those sectors where it's prevalent and we've got to get over the stigma because understand that the fastest growth in HIV/AIDS is in heterosexuals, not gays. And so, we've got to get out of that stigma that we still have around it. It's connected also to drug use. So, one of the things we have to do is to start thinking about better substance abuse treatment programs around drugs and not just treat it as a criminal justice issue. Treat it as a public health issue as well.

So -- but this all is connected to the idea of prevention and so my health care plan says, you know what? I don't want kids in the emergency room for treatable illnesses like asthma. I want them to get a primary care doctor and have regular check-ups and, you know, if we decreased obesity rates back to the rates that existed back in 1980, we would save the Medicare system a trillion dollars -- one trillion dollars because that's what's accounting for huge spikes in heart disease and diabetes and all kinds of preventable illnesses.

So we've got to put emphasis on that. Let me say one last thing, though. I'm going to use the presidential bully pulpit to start talking about people taking responsibility. We were talking about education earlier. It doesn't matter how good the job the schools are doing, if parents, you don't turn off your TV sets and put away your video games and make your kids do your homework and meet with the teachers, it won't make any difference. And the same is true on health care. I mean, some of us just have bad luck, and -- or genetically, are predisposed to certain diseases.

But, you know, if we're not all making some effort to get exercise and, you know, eat properly and not smoke and, you know, and I know -- I've had my own little battles. You know, I used to sneak a few cigarettes once in a while. My wife cut me off at the pass. She announced on 60 Minutes, she said, you know, "Yeah, he used to smoke once in a while, and he promised me. So if you catch him, anybody out there" -- but that was good. I think we all have to take some responsibility for these issues as well. That's going to be important. All right, I've got time for one more question.

From the March 31 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

HANNITY: Karl, it's Sean. Let me follow up on that here, because he certainly had to weather the Reverend Wright issue that is out there. But there's a story in the Politico today that he's actually been hiding his true liberalism. We know he's the number one liberal -- National Journal -- in the United States Senate, and more importantly, he made a statement over the weekend talking about the issue of abortion. If people make a mistake, quote, "I don't want them punished with a baby," unquote.

ROVE: Right. That's why it's probably better --

HANNITY: Those have the potential --

ROVE: Well, yeah, to hurt him in a general election, yes, but that's -- again, that's my point, is the longer the primary goes on -- look, Hillary Clinton is not going to stand up and say to him, look, you were way far left-wing when you ran for the state senate and when you ran for the United States Senate.

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:38 PM
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The idiots still don't get it...
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:39 PM by DearAbby
EDUCATION something that they have no clue about...educating our children, so they can make good sound decisions. Alien to their reptile minds, I know.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:38 PM
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1. What we need to do is turn the tables on the GOP and ask them why they want to outlaw contraception.
The HLA plank in their platform would, by the arguments of the prominent "pro-life" organizations that wrote the thing, outlaw the birth control pill, which they consider an abortifacent and morally equivalent to murder.

Oh, and about that- what is the prosecution they propose for women who "murder" their fertilized eggs? Or workers in IVF clinics?

The truth is, the base of the GOP wants to see not just Roe but Griswold v. Connecticut overturned too, and the agenda includes criminalizing all contraception and eventually all non-procreative fucking.

Someone needs to call them on it.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:40 PM
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2. Hannity has no credibility. I can believe we belong to the same country!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:41 PM
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3. Most people agree with that on abortion anyway
Let them keep harping. We'll get a good conversation on sex ed and abortion and he'll win there too.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:48 PM
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4. Do we really need to talk about Hannity in a Democratic forum?
Personally, I couldn't give two shits about what he thinks. Neither should any Democrat. He's not worth the time.
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