"If Obama's so uniting, then how come the party's so divided?"

[George_Bonanza]

This is one of the most asinine statements I've read in political forums. An accurate analogy would involve a spiteful patient who stuffs himself with potato chips and hamburgers in order to try and discredit the qualifications of his cardiologist: "If he's so good, then how come I'm going to have 3 massive heart attacks in the next year?" Cuz you're doing it to yourself! Some Hillary supporters are causing self-inflicted wounds on American politics (gutter politics, sucking up to Fox News, sucking up to McCain, threatening to make the entire primary season for naught) and then trying to blame Obama for it.

[Saturday]

And some Obama supporters are idiots. nt

[EmilyAnne]

3. Didn't Jesus Christ himself say that the idiots will always be with us? What can we do?

[SwampG8r]

9. that was the poor

idiots i think get whipped

[40ozDonkey]

17. Didn't I see that on a plate at the Bradford Exchange?

:think:

[EmilyAnne]

30. No. That was a Precious Moments figurine.

[Bake]

21. No, as a matter of fact He didn't.

Now run along and play.

Bake

[EmilyAnne]

29. Nope. I just read it in my bible!

Blabludations 9:11
All ye idiots that hearken not to wisdom, why hast thou burdenest us so? Yea, verily thou art both a mote and a beam in my tender buttocks that shalt never be plucked forth. Ye idiots shalt always be with us and will the be the bane of every political campaign, blog and radio show. Amen.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

4. You're supporting Obama now?

I never would have predicted that!

[Alexander]

16. And many Shillbots are sockpuppets.

Seems like devoting one's time to creating multiple accounts on a message board is a bigger sign of idiocy.

[kwenu]

38. If the idiots are winning what's your excuse?

[JimGinPA]

1. Exactly!

K&R

[GarbagemanLB]

2. I also love the accusation that it is Obama hurting the party...as if the one with the most delegate

s, states, most money, and most votes should step down because it is Hillary's 'turn'. Not to mention her supporters seemingly unable to admit that Hillary's only option now is to tear down the party's frontrunner instead of spreading a POSITIVE message of why she is the better candidate.

[Bigleaf]

6. Speaking of which, the word 'turn'. I guess Biden or Dodd should have been the nominee,

not Hillary or Obama. After all, Biden has been a Senator since 1973 and Dodd was a Congressman in 1974 and became a Senator in 1980. That would give them seniority, it was their turn. Why do we hear from a lot of Hillary supporters about it being her turn?

[Shae]

19. umm...

because it goes Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton
not Bush-Clinton-Bush-Biden(or Dodd)
D'oh!

[Bigleaf]

32. You are correct. How could I forget that? Is it Jeb or Neil who is pencilled in after Hillary?

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. We're supposed to all unite with Obama. Otherwise the scheme

doesn't work.

[2rth2pwr]

7. He needs to change his rhetoric, if there is no way he can really be a uniter

he needs to first admit it and then move on.

If he has been lying, people will forgive him if he admits it.

[Cheap_Trick]

11. now if only hillary would admit she lied about Bosnia..

like THAT would happen

[2rth2pwr]

36. What does that have to do with Obama the Uniter?

[Cheap_Trick]

37. Uh, it was a direct response to your post..

"If he has been lying, people will forgive him if he admits it." So I'm saying that if hillary would admit that she lied about Bosnia, maybe people would forgive her if she admitted it. Duh.

[2rth2pwr]

40. Same with my neighbor, but the topic isn't my neighbor or Hillary.

[Uben]

8. What a load of crap!

It is a legitimate question. Why hasn't Obama brought the party together? HE can't because he is not a uniter. It's that simple.
Clinton obviously isn't one either. Truth is, the party is evenly divided, mainly because we have a AA candidate and a female candidate in the same primary. For those who want a female to win, Obama is not going to win them over, and visa versa with Clinton.
So stop trying to make up bullshit excuses!

Loyal dems will vote for the nominee, but there will be others who won't. The failure of BOTH candidates to come together is the real reason the party is so divided. If they were truly uniters, they would be talking right now, working out something that would satisfy them both. If both their egos are too big for that, then fuck both of them, they deserve to lose!

I have lost respect for both of them. Neither is worthy of my vote. If they refuse to do what is best for the party, then the party should abandon them both, and put in someone we can ALL vote for.

[Sinistrous]

10. What are the specific steps, statements, and/or positions Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama

should take to provide some semblance of unity within the Democratic party?

[Uben]

18. I think you know

In a party this evenly split, they should either run on a combined ticket or make some arrangement whereby one candidate would serve one term, and then let the other run for the next one. I don't care which one goes first. As it stands now, we stand to lose this election due to the stubborness of our candidates. With all the vitriolic bullshit being posted on this forum, I wouldn't blame anyone for not voting for their candidates opponent.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out, and Dean screwed up totally by endorsing any candidate. He needs to go.
We need some intelligent people to step up and work this out. Otherwise,.......well we all know what the alternative is.

[Sinistrous]

22. Actually, it never would have occurred to me to advocate

that the candidates engage in an agreement that appears to be so blatently illegal. I must also profess that I share Google's ignorance of this endorsement that Howard Dean made. Which of the candidates did he endorse and when?

[csorman]

25. The DNC chair cannot endorse

What are you talking about??

[BenDavid]

12. We had this won until obama decided to "unite us". and I still

believe hrc will be the nominee and will win the presidency.

[lumberjack_jeff]

13. Crusades are unifying. n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

14. Oh and another thing, don't you hate it when Hillary supporters say they won't vote for Obama...

because of his supporters?

:rofl:

There are millions of Obama supporters. If you let a few of them turn you off to Obama then you have serious problems. It might just be a ploy by them to get Obama supporters to halt all criticism of their princess, Hillary. If not, then these weak-minded individuals really shouldn't be voting.

[Uben]

20. I've heard just as many Obama supporters saying the same thing

I guess you suppose they are too weak-minded to vote as well, huh?

[cyndensco]

26. Seems to me the average Obama supporters

are choosing to vote against Hillary, not because of her supporters but because of HER!

[ericgtr]

15. My response would be "how many people knew the name 'Obama' only one year ago?"

and pit that up against the household name of "Clinton" who he has all but defeated by this newcomer in this contest.

[McCamy Taylor]

23. Because the RNC employees so many people to do its opo and the MSM reports it all as fact

[bowens43]

24. You'r right, that is one of the stupidest anti-Obama posts

I've seen here. It shows you what supporting Hillary can do to your mind.

[Two Americas]

27. disturbing

So the reason why the party is so divided is because people refuse to unite?

This is becoming very disturbing.

"We are the uniters! And we would have unity if everyone would join us in unity! It is all their fault that we don't have unity!"

Good grief.

[GoldieAZ49]

28. democrats are not "potato chips and hamburgers"

they are people choosing a candidate. They base that choice on who they think is the best candidate.

Obama has not sold himself to half the party. He has been unable to unite the party behind him as a leader.

If he cannot unite the party behind him for a clear and convincing win of the nomination he isn't going to unite the country.


you may be a hamburger for Obama, but America needs a leader with experience and the strength to lead in the face of adversity.

[Cha]

31. I got 3 words for ya..

hilary fucking clinton.

[jconner27]

33. More Horseshit from Team Obama

Barack Obama campaign sure does look a hell like the Bush campaign dating back to the 2000 election outside of over using the word hope, Bush used the idea of change, reaching across party lines and unity and my favorite while presenting a image of taking the high road he let his flunkies do the dirty work against his political rivals. And the media is acting the same way with Obama as they were with Bush in 2000 everything he said was the gospel and anything his rival said was a bold face lie. Now to the question whom is to blame? Well here's a hint it's not the woman running for president. For months I was a Democrat that had a preference but didn't care who won, but the followers of Barack Obama have tainted that line of thinking when it looks like Hillary was building up momentum all I heard from them on "progressive" talk is I won't vote for her, now that it looks like Obama has the upper hand the calls for unity is spewing from every Obama supporter from the average supporters to the high ranking supporters in Washington D.C.

Furthermore it's was you Obama supporters who start throwin around the muck when you had to use recycle RNC created Clinton scandals. If your guy is everything you claim he is why use that sort of stuff?

[Az_lefty]

34. The problem is the Cult of Clinton...

those two could stand on stage and club baby seals and they would still have a sizable percentage of blind followers.

[2rth2pwr]

41. "Obama could really be a uniter if everybody would just agree with him."

Did you get your pony yet?

[johnnydrama]

35. its pretty equal to

If Global warming is real, how come it's so cold today.

They pretty much have the same intelligence behind them.

[kwenu]

39. Hillary supporters are suffering from the mental distress of having their dreams crushed by reality.

So they make illogical statements and accusations to try to justify the current state of affairs in a vain attempt to change what is clear and certain.