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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:57 PM
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Krugman is to Obama supporters as Olbermann is to Clinton supporters
Formerly lauded representatives of our party are being thrown under the bus by the other side. It's a sad irony that is plaguing the primaries.

I don't have a lot of time for analysis, I'm seeing the Black Keys tonight at the Warfield tonight.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:00 PM
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1. The difference is that Krugman isn't honest enough to discuss
The Clintons' role in our current Mortgage Crisis. :eyes:

Clinton's Legacy Has Caught Up With Us
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/clintons-legacy-has-caught-up.php
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:53 AM
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21. Yeah sure
Keep those RNC talking points flowing..
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:31 AM
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23. KRUGMAN IS DEAD TO ME!
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 03:32 AM by TheDonkey
;)
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:01 PM
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2. I still like both of them
I'm for Obama, and I don't agree with Krugman's pro-Hillary stance, but I still have great respect for him and read his columns regularly, with no plans to change.

For the record, neither of them is dead to me.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:04 PM
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4. Me too.
I am disappointed in Krugman's choice, but he is stil one hell of an advocate for most things I believe in.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:48 AM
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18. I stilll like both of them, too.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:02 PM
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3. They're both pretty cool.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:05 PM
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5. Though I have my favorites, I'm ok with all 4 of em.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:05 PM
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6. well, Obama supporters don't really complain about Krugman as much
other than as responses to threads on his articles.

but the Hillary people seem to HATE Olbermann. that doesn't seem the case with Obama supporters and Krugman where it's more a feeling of disappointment in Krugman rather than any dislike.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:07 PM
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7. Olbs gets to spew just about every night. Krugman writes the occasional
article.

One of them is paid by GE.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:16 PM
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10. "occasional?" No. Twice a week, PLUS blog posts, plus TV commentator appearances.
Krugman's plenty visible, too.
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alwaysblue Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:21 PM
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13. I dare you to find recent Krugman criticism against Obama
He has spoken about the economy lately. Only the economy.

Unlike say, Maureen Dowd, who has absolutely nothing to talk about other than Hillary Clinton. Same goes for Frank Rich.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:53 AM
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19. You don't have to "dare" me to do anything.
Krugman has been VERY pro-Hillary. Want proof? Go look it up yourself; I'm not your babysitter (hint: try searching here, and you'll find plenty of threads by Hillary supporters linking to pro-Hillary--and a few anti-Obama--columns).

And for the record, since you appear to be new here, I'm neither a Clinton nor an Obama supporter. I was an Edwards supporter, and will vote for whoever we choose as the eventual nominee.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:14 PM
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8. Krugman had this to say on hilary..

"OK, this is pretty dumb. Hillary Clinton wants a high-level commission to analyze ways to resolve the mortgage crisis -- including Alan Greenspan.

Yes, I know people still listen when Greenspan speaks -- and John McCain once joked about taking Greenspan's advice even if he's dead. But for those in the know, AG is a key villain in the whole affair."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/26/paul-krugman-slamshill_n_93522.html
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:20 PM
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:20 AM
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15. Krugman preferred Edwards. KO is another General Electric Obama shill
Basically everyone at MSRNC (General Electric) is an Obama shill except for Dan Abrams. There is a significant difference between one apparently toeing the General Electric company line and Krugman preferring Edwards over Clinton-Obama and Clinton over Obama on policy reasons.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:49 AM
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25. Oh, it's yet another "Keith Olbermann is just a GE shill" post.
Funny how some people didn't think of him as a GE shill until he said something they personally didn't like. Now he's "just a GE shill" to them.

"Except for Dan Abrams"? That's because he's the one who can be counted on to crab about something someone else said about Hillary, every night. I guess that means he "doesn't toe the General Electric company line."

Of course, anyone who tuned in to KO this week would see that he defended Hillary a few times too. But nooooo, he's just "toeing that General Electric company line."

What a joke to talk of KO, who is notorious for a past of not getting along with employers, toeing ANY so-called "company line."
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:15 PM
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9. I wont demean him in the same language as Clinton Supporters do Olbermann..I just disagree with him.
I also have never really read his columns.
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alwaysblue Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:18 PM
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11. Krugman has class
If you follow Krugman, you will notice that he will write several columns on the economy before he mentions Obama, and if he does, he mentions him in one paragraph or two.

Not only that, but he would never tell McCain to go buy depends, no matter how contrary his views are to the senator's.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:17 AM
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14. Krugman gives thoughtful economic analysis
and he just happens to think that Hillary's plans are better.

Olbermann on the other hand, is a pompous ass who loves to hear the sound of his voice. He lost me completely after he had the gall to give Hillary a 10 minute lecture over the remarks that Ferraro had made. Did he also criticize Obama for Rev. Wright's incendiary sermons? Both candidates had supporters who made inflammatory remarks, he only bashed one of them. Therefore, as far as I'm concerned he's also a pile of dung, just like the rest of the pundits in that sorry excuse of a news channel.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:21 AM
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16. To be fair Olbermann has a much bigger audience.
Krugman is generally ignored by the media as a socialist pig.

No, really. Watch any time he's on. He's always mocked.

Anyway I've never said ill words of Olbermann.

He's a good guy.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:12 AM
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20. My OP should have read Obamatons vs. Shillbots
I was thinking about this when I was at the concert. I spend far too much time on DU.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:46 AM
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17. Not true
I respect Krugman very much, even as I disagree with his choice. He is still a must-read to me, even when he's going after Obama.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:55 AM
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22. Yeah except Krugman doesn't get the whole "OMG I FUCKING HATE THAT POS WHO HAS NO CREDIBILITY" thing
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:40 AM
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24. Krugman analyses information
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 05:43 AM by JoFerret
KO rants.

So I don't think the analogy holds. There are MANY good people supporting BO who are capable of sane analysis and thoughtful, civil discussion and argument.

KO is not one of them. His role is entertainer with a pov and a rant. Like O'Reilly.

They should both leave to the expert national treasure Stephen Colbert.
(Who - is a damn good analyzer too. Or his writers are. He is EXCELLENT on health issues.)
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:58 AM
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26. All these guys (and gals)
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 05:59 AM by susankh4
had better hope this party comes back together. For the sake of their ratings. And jobs....

If I were them, I'd start talking unity against McCain and cut with the intraparty dissention.

:grouphug:
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