If the Clinton campaign says it - it must be so (even if Richardson denies it)

[Debi]

Top Hillary Adviser: Richardson Privately Said Obama Is Unelectable


This morning, Mark Halperin quoted a Clinton "associate" saying that Bill Richardson privately had confided to the Clintons that he thought Obama couldn't win a general election.

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After the news broke yesterday that Bill Clinton grew angry in a meeting with California super-delegates, and asserted that Richardson had promised five times not to endorse Obama, a Richardson spokesperson denied that Richardson ever promised Hillary any endorsement.

But that isn't what is being reported. Rather, what's being reported is that Richardson promised he wouldn't endorse Obama. Shipley didn't return my call asking for comment on that. Now a top Hillary adviser has asserted to me that this happened, and claims that Richardson said the reason for this was that he didn't think Obama could win.

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http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/top_hillary_adviser_richardson.php

[LakeSamish706]

1. Except that we all know that the Clinton's are both liers... ie:

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Snipper fire in Bosnia.... So, who is one to believe?

[redqueen]

4. That's the thing with trying to defend lies...

lying to begin with, some people may understand... but continuing to try to defend the lie, even after you're caught... very few will forgive that. Most will treat your claims as suspect from then on, naturally.

[DemVet]

5. Like Obama isn't? He didn't recant on the Wright issue? That's not lying?

[virtualobserver]

6. no, he didn't recant anything

[DemVet]

41. Sure he did. Pay attention.

[frylock]

24. hunh?!

:wtf:

[walldude]

33. Oh so after the media makes a big deal out of Wright

and Hillary's supporters scream to anyone who will listen that Wright will cost the Dems the election, pushing Obama into a place where he has no choice but to make a statement, then you want to use that statement against him. Good plan. Has a nice republican ring to it.

[DemVet]

40. Cry me a river.

[snooper2]

10. Lie Lie Lie..

That's all they know how to do....

Whatever it takes, they are so calculated it make me sick...

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[HarveyBrooks]

15. Yea...

the Clinton's are both scum-sucking garbage - TRAITORS to America! All they do is lie,lie,lie about EVERYTHING! Neither one of them has ever done anything honorable in their sad, pathetic little lives!
Hitlery is a cold, caculating bitch and should be thrown out of the Democratic party!

Just trying to fit in at the all new DU.

[Cha]

25. Yeah, and they're full

shit of too.

[islandmkl]

2. Lies Scoreboard:

Richardson: 5 (as counted by his the Clintons)

Clinton, Bill: ???? (has anybody kept track?)

Clinton, Hillary: ??? (it ain't over, yet)

[Boz]

18. Pfunk for Pres

[Debi]

21. Welcome to DU Boz

:hi:

[Boz]

22. Thanks Debi, long time lurker

:yoiks: :hide:

[Cha]

26. It says 0 posts you have and I've

seen at least two!

[Debi]

20. We don't know that Richardson lied - only know that the Clinton camp

SAYS he lied. And the stupid-ass media reports it :eyes:

[graywarrior]

3. I hate to say it, but this ain't about them, it's about who we want elected

[virtualobserver]

8. it does show exactly how low they will go, that they would attack a superdelegate

.....with information about "private" conversations.

very vindictive......but not very Presidential

[graywarrior]

11. To think I once supported them.

Can't ever do that again.

[virtualobserver]

12. I wonder what Richardson has heard, in some "private" conversations?

and how that influenced him to go with Obama.

[graywarrior]

14. Probaby enough to decide to endorse Obama.

[Cha]

27. They're like weasley little worms turning

in the slime..and the m$$$$m are right there with them in the darkness.

[book_worm]

7. I'll believe Bill Richardson on this given both Bill and Hill's track record on truth.

[Life Long Dem]

9. The media really does suck.

[cooolandrew]

13. Wow what distortion. Clearly Gov. Richardson is honorable having run a very successful state on his

watch.

[cooolandrew]

16. I bet Richardson probably said he won't endorse anyoen yet. I dunno you wouldn't think Riachardson

was a free American the way this story is told.

[Texas Hill Country]

17. actually, i totally believe that conversation took place... it is plainly obvious that Richardson..

bailed on Clinton for the guy that was ahead because he thought his endorsement might put a nail in the Clinton coffin and that Obama would owe him big... perhaps the VP slot...

but i can guarantee that he did it for a cabinet position.

[navarth]

19. they're denying the promise of endorsement, but not the electability comment??

I'm more interested in that rather than a food fight about what he promised

[Debi]

23. Richardson already denied the 'promise' talk - when that blew up in the Clinton's face

they came up with new talking points - the "he said Obama was unelectable" comment - Richardson has yet to respond to that.

They're just trying to belittle his endorsement.

[Cha]

28. LIke all the "belittlements" of the states that

didn't go their way went over sooo well. They're stupid ..they don't learn from past stupidities.

[Debi]

29. I know, I live in the first state that didn't count! n/t

[Cha]

30. Go Iowa! You guys turned out to

be so damn schmart! :patriot: :bounce: :kick: :party:

[navarth]

32. perhaps, perhaps

I'll feel a tiny bit better if I hear Richardson denying he ever said the electability thing. Of course the Clinton campaign is going to do whatever they can to to belittle his endorsement...that's their job.

[Bad Thoughts]

31. Speculation

I'm confused why Richardson's opinion of Obama's electability should be an issue with regard to selling the Clinton "for thirty pieces of silver."

My only thought is that Hillary or Bill Clinton had discussed with Richardson the chances of the candidates in the GE, and that Richardson may have suspected at that point Obama would be a weak candidate. The Clinton side understood, however, that Richardson rejected endorsing Obama because they mistakenly believed Richardson was confident that Obama was a poor candidate. But events convinced Richardson otherwise. What was only a suspicion was overwhelmed by the sense of a growing movement around Obama. Moreover, Richardson was probably genuinely touched by the Phil. speech, and saw Obama as someone who could make progress on issues related to minorities and immigration.

[Kber]

34. To believe this

you have to think that Richardson thought Obama was unelectable, but decided to trash his relationship with the Clintons anyway to endorse an unelectable candidate.

WHY?
on edit - someday I'll lern to spel

[rucky]

35. Even if true, why do they have to gain by saying it?

It makes them look worse than Richardson

[JayFredMuggs]

36. Good title to a thread

I did not have sex with..........

We landed under sniper fire................

YEAH

It's always true if a Clinton says so

[Skidmore]

37. The only person I believe less than the Clintons is

George W. Bush himself, or his sidekick the Evil Dick.

[JayFredMuggs]

38. George W. Bush himself, or his sidekick the Evil Dick.

Those are the persons the Clinton's allowed to be elected in 2000, 2004..........WHERE were these leaders of American liberalism and sanity in those years??????

I didn't see Bill Clinton nullifying the vote in FL, because of voting irregularities...or Hillary asking for Ohio to be nullified in 2004, despited widespread allegations of voter intimidation.

No,they were NOT there to fight for Al Gore, or John Kerry.......they were off doing big buck speeches somewhere else in the world....check their calendars for Nov, 2004

[Raine]

39. We all know that everyone but the Clintons

is a liar. :sarcasm: