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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:38 PM
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For Hillary supporters..
Will you vote for Obama if he throws his pastor under the bus? You seem to be saying that if he won't denounces him or never talks to him again in this life then you will be alright with him.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:40 PM
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1. I like the Wright Pastor..
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:14 PM
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6. Evidently.
he was the wright pastor for obama because Obama is a wonderful man...Who has the AUDACITY to hope...
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:42 PM
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2. They wouldn't vote for him if he singlehandedly cured AIDS and ended world hunger.
Logic means nothing to them.

Democrats mean nothing to them.

Honesty means nothing to them.

All that matters is Hillary and her bitter, twisted, ecomaniacal campaign to take what is "rightfully" hers.
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Maureen1322 Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:10 PM
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22. Being a Democrat means everything to me,
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 05:11 PM by Maureen1322
I like Hillary, but I will gladly vote for Barack in November. Why are you so angry? Why are you assuming I am illogical and dishonest?
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:21 PM
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23. Oh. Pardon me.
I see it's your 32nd post so I assume you are new. If so, welcome and I apologize. I forget people on the outside still have manners.

Let me explain a bit about GDP.

GDP is reserved entirely and exclusively for the use of the criminally insane. We are homicidal maniacs entrenched into two camps. GANGS if you will. Like our counterparts, the Crips and the Bloods, we won't stop until everyone on both sides is dead or in jail or beaten into submission.

Welcome. Prepare to be literarily assaulted. I apologize for our behavior in advance.
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Maureen1322 Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:36 PM
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24. Thanks, I guess I've been warned.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:43 PM
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3. I'd have to think about supporting Obama, his policies, his approach, his tone.
Just like Michelle Obama said in regards to Hillary.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:59 PM
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4. I will vote for Obama if he is the Democratic nominee, no strings attached.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:10 PM
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5. If he's the nominee I'll vote for him
I won't do so with a broad grin on my face --but I'll vote for him.

That okay?
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:17 PM
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7. I'd vote for Elmer Fudd if he was our party's nominee. That's STILL better than McLame-o
And since I voted for Clinton on Super Tuesday, I could support her were she to win without having to have a super delegate coup.

The straight up and down winner of states, votes, delegates should be the nominee.

And I'll vote for 'em!!
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:19 PM
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8. wait
I thought John McCain WAS Elmer Fudd.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:26 PM
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9. Don't about his pastor
or his religion, or any religion. It should not be a part of politics at all.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:37 PM
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12. So he just goes for social reasons?
I am glad that this hasn't shaped him as a person or influenced his beliefs.

Phew!

:dilemma:














:sarcasm:
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:34 PM
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10. I will vote for the Democratic candidate
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 03:35 PM by rock
If that is Obama, then that's who I'm voting for. It will take worse than the Wright incidence to have me favor a (ugh) Republican.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:36 PM
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11. He already did. And I wont vote for him whatever political skit he deicdes to put on.
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 03:38 PM by Skip Intro

Really, here is a politician calling himself a blank slate and ready to be bent into any cute little pose like some action figure, or make supposedly deep personal decisions or change supposedly deeply held convictions based on which way the political winds blow.

Why do I want that?

No, I would not vote for him if he said, *God Damn Rev. Wright* anymore than I would if he put on a bee costume and did the Mexican Hat Dance while drinking a beer with *the common folk.*

No thanks.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:38 PM
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13. A butterfly:
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:54 PM
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19. Awwww...thats so beautiful.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:41 PM
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14. They would be right with him if he was 2nd place, all there seems to be to it.
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 03:43 PM by cooolandrew
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:44 PM
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15. Think of Obama
(if your passions tend to stay inflamed until November) at least as a battering ram to breach the walls of horror and dictatorship. Perhaps the mental image, close enough to the reality, will remind us what "voting" really means in November whatever names are attached to the flawed voting mechanics.

There is one problem that has nothing to do with any of the candidates of either party. That problem is how the voter will be heard- or not- in a masse of as many united people of good will as is humanly possible to save our lives and those of everyone on the planet. Grudges and accountability will continue.
certainly the most perfect candidate imaginable will not solve all of our problems. One problem being moronically conned divisions of sucker hate.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:10 PM
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16. I Will Vote For Him If I Must
But I will personally still not "be alright with him." You can't undo the 20-year problem I have with him and his pastor and other racially antagonistic associates, and I wouldn't think MORE of him (and haven't, generally) when he does these little semantic pander-fests (I wouldn't have stayed if he weren't retiring, I didn't hear the worst remarks, etc., I did not have racially bigoted sympathies in common with him privately). I'm a "typical white person" and he has no credibility left with me this subject. And it's not the only questionable area for me; just something that goes a lot deeper into twisted values and hidden agendas than most of his illusions.

You asked, I answered.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:17 PM
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17. what are those agendas...
they couldn't be any worse than what we have had for the past seven years, a lot of folks seem to think that if he Obama says anything that relates to blacks that this will make him the president for blacks. If that is the case there are a lot of us here who could say the same for the previous presidents and not vote for them. I believe this pastor thing has nothing to do with it I think that some are lookin for a reason not to vote for him because of his skin color even though he is as much white as he is black we are tired of of the same old people doing the same old things and lying to us...
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:38 PM
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18. It takes a bigger person with an open heart to
embrace not condemn a person. I remember Gov. George Wallace of Alabama and how this man spent a lifetime doing everything possible to keep segregation going in his lifetime and forever if it was possible. He hated black people, did not care about the lynchings or anything else that hurt blacks in his state.

When he was shot and paralyzed this man whom signified the hatred of black people for years cried, asked and was forgiven by the same black people who he wanted to kill, even the white people that perpetrated the hate crimes couldn't understand the change in Wallace or the blacks he so long hated. Those two simple words, I'm sorry was enough to change the hearts of blacks he had always despised. I think it is fear more than anything that will not allow some people to vote for this man. People can sometimes be prisoners of their own mind, thinking once black people get in power we will inflict some kind of retribution on white people.

Please listen, black people do not want revenge we just want equal footing. The majority of black people just are like white people trying to live day by day. We have the same problems and the same goals. Open up your hearts people, it feels soooo good.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:57 PM
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21. Agreed...
some can't get there mind around this, they can't understand that some (not all) of the things that are happening in the black community are that way due to certain legislators and their policies over the years...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:57 PM
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20. I'll vote for whoever the nominee is.
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