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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:17 AM Original message |
Hillary Clinton is a Democrat. Period. |
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. why does she suddenly claim "there's no such thing as pledged delegates?" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Because she's desperate |
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I must admit... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. aren't most of us? |
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. come to think of it |
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mrJJ (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. DLC mini rethug |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Because, technically, it's the truth. |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. If they do, they'll destroy the party... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
57. If Obama were in Clinton's place, he would have been forced out months ago |
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guyanakoolaid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
105. Hilarious since Clinton works so hard to usurp the rules on MI and FL that she agreed to beforehand |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. I agree with cali, she is deseprate. |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. "...she'll back Obama if he wins the nomination." |
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Shae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
92. I found that troubling too ... |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
93. HRC's campaign indicates a Bush-Jr mentality. McCain hasn't shown that. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. Nice post. Peace, cali! |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
5. I still think she WILL take it to the convention. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Not unless she beats him solidly in most of the remaining races |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
31. She may be under the delusion |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
8. Nope...I honestly do not believe that she will back Barack |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. The party would disown her. She's not stupid. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Let's hope she honors he contract to the people of New York and stays in her senate seat until 2012 |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. I'm sure she would, she might even try to get her health care reform passed. |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. dont see it in her history |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
58. Really? Lieberman had very few consequences |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #58 |
81. He will lose reelection in 2012, if we have a good candidate like Lamont. n/t |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. I can't find a link to the quote right now, but it was reported here a few days |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
104. I tend to agree, although of course there's no way to know for sure until it happens. |
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LiveLiberally (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. K&R AND Thanks... |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
12. Nice post Cali. |
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irish.lambchop (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
13. Of course she's a Democrat and would never run as an |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. She would. Many people think she's "Rethug lite" and "evil." By standing above the hateful rhetoric. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. it's absolutist thinking and it's something I think is pretty hardwired |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. I thank you for it even though this thread will likely sink soon. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
16. Oh cali. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. All that might be true, Cali, but it appears she's hell bent on making |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Please don't spout non-sense, Obama won't lose against McCain. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I didn't say Obama wouldn't win - I said she's trying to make him unelectable. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Such non-sense will end in June almost assuredly. And then the party will have months to fight. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Anonymous jerks? Gee, thanks. You're a real sweetie. nt |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Wasn't directed at you necessarily. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
94. Based on her actions to date, what makes you think she will support Obama? n/t |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. The ultimate goal of the Clinton Wing of the Democratic Party |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
20. Don't be bringing up the period thing. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. lol. language is such a minefield, isn't it? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Yes |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
23. Thanks cali. Nice post. |
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easy_b94 (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
34. I don't know...I think she is going to turn into a Lieberman |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I don't see that at all |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. To what ends? Where did it get Lieberman? The guy has fallen into obscurity. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #39 |
80. Lieberman is McCain's right hand man. The same McCain the Clintons keep praising. n/t |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
95. Very insightful. I agree. Good call. n/t |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
37. We'll see |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #37 |
74. Agree... |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
38. Hillary is exercising the Tonya Harding option on Obama so she can run in 2012. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. That's projection or speculation |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
69. She keeps attacking Obama and praising McCain. She knows she cannot win. Her motive is obvious. n/t |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Then why is she running on a platform with mandates and subsidies throughout? |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
96. The way she's run her campaign, and as long as she has stayed in, she can't run again... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
106. BO first used the 'tanya harding' phase. What a smear on hillary he did. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
41. If Hillary is a Democrat, why does she and her husband continue to praise McCain? n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. I think it's partly a way of trying to position herself as the best |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. If BO is a Democrat Why does BO praise Reagan and Bush I ?? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Why do you inevitably get caught up in stupid? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. .. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
64. Sometimes I enjoy mocking silly posts. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #64 |
86. Really. After giving me a scathing rebuke for supposedly mocking you? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
85. That's one helluva question, and there is not satisfactory answer beyond the obvious. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #52 |
75. It's different. Reagan and Bush I are not running for president this time. McCain is. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
45. She may be a Democrat |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. No politician in their right mind would drop out with such a close race. |
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Tammie (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
47. Once again Cali |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
50. Spoken like a true Democrat |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
54. Sometimes the simple truth is best. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
55. True but now she is also GOP. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I don't see that |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. G(oddess) O(f) P(eace) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Well at least now |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
60. I agree, except the "Period" should be "Question mark." |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. or "Asterisk" ... |
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NYDem Observer (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
63. I hope you're right |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
65. Hillary is a DLC Democrat. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. How many repubs support GLBT rights? How many |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Clinton opposes GLBT rights. Remember DOMA? DADT? n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. flat out bullshit. That's liike saying Obama opposes GLBT rights |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
67. She doesn't support getting out of Iraq, she supports a troop reduction |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
70. Very well put. You and I are on the same page, and I am an Obama supporter also /nt |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
71. HRC's actions say she is not interested in ending the war (LATimes)... |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. The truth is the Clintons support the Iraq War and an Iran War too. Her voting record and actions .. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
72. Do you run Hillary's campaign? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. what are you babbling about? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #77 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. gee, more meaningless crap from you. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. You fail once again. :) |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
84. "Claiming anything else is simply bullshit." Let's just say it's speculation. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
87. Excellent post, cali! |
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doyourealize1 (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
88. Her healthcare policy alone makes her a Dem |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
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not_too_L8 (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
90. I hope your right |
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amelia (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
91. Good post. Rec it! |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
97. Yep. nt |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
98. Yes she is a Dem, just like Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller... |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
99. Be careful, cali |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
100. I'd like to think that |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
101. Thank you Cali. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
102. Nice post, Cali. n/t |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
103. I agree. |
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