Did Hillary cry today because

[Araxen]

PA won't count soon?

[anonymous171]

1. Did she cry today?

[mtnsnake]

2. She didn't cry ya lying dimwit

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[gateley]

4. That's really uncalled for --

it was an emotional situation and it's moving and humbling to focus on what MLK gave to this country, and how his life was cut short.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Riiiight.

Run a race-baiting campaign one day, tear up the next.

Sure.

[gateley]

10. Just because she's pretty vile,

doesn't mean she doesn't have any feelings. :7

I think a comment like the one I responded to takes away from the real focus of the event -- MLK. Plenty of other threads/topics in which to throw snark.

Just me.

[Whisp]

32. she should have done her sniper joke there today.

that would have lighten things up a bit.

[Erin Elizabeth]

5. What do you mean about PA not counting soon?

[goldcanyonaz]

6. Another shining example of the kind of supporter Obama attracts.

You do him proud!

[QC]

41. Assholes do have a powerful attraction to him, don't they? n/t

[rodeodance]

43. So many BO fans are attacted to smears and smut.!!

[sandnsea]

7. Well real snipers are quite an emotional thing

She knows that now after her near miss getting to the Jay Leno show, er I mean Bosnia, er...

[PBS Poll-435]

9. So Classy. You inspire me!

[sandnsea]

12. Pssht, at least I don't lie n/t

[mtnsnake]

14. Now THAT is precious! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[PBS Poll-435]

17. Sure you don't.

You never exagerate, you never fib. You are pristine and virtuous. Thanks for being here! I could really learn a lot from you!


:loveya::loveya::loveya:

[sandnsea]

18. Good. Here's your first lesson.

Get a mirror and take a long look. When you attack someone personally - when all they did was make a political joke - YOU are being the shithead. Yes YOU.

[PBS Poll-435]

19. Nah... I reconsidered

Don't CRY about it


ETA - Almost got suckered in...

[goldcanyonaz]

23. You're not fawning over Obama is enough to be viewed as an attack around here.

[PBS Poll-435]

24. I edited my post.

The heavens opened up and I saw the light

[sandnsea]

29. And now you can join

the hundreds of other Clinton supporters on Ignore.

[PBS Poll-435]

30. Then you won't hear this!!!!

Don't cry for me sandnsea,
The truth is i'll not really miss you,
Please keep your promise,
And go **** some llamas,
And keep your distance,
Or I get some assistance....

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. ...

:spray:

[PBS Poll-435]

37. Thanks!

I hate when I make a typo...and I can't fix it!!!


:grr:

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. .

:eyes:

[DearAbby]

11. Last night

Snipers are funny...today she is verklempt? How convenient.

[Hutzpa]

13. This after she has ran

a racially motivated primary election, talking about how MLK would not have done it
without Lyndon Johnson.

This is all a photo op, her and John McVain.

'You can fool some of the people sometimes, but you can't fool all
the people all of the time'

[Araxen]

15. and remember

McShame voted against MLK Holiday.

[qnr]

16. Nowhere did she say that MLK would not have done it without LBJ. Get your facts straight.

Saying that one person was also instrumental in accomplishing something does not imply in any way, manner, or form that the other person "wouldn't have done it". What, did MLK have a time machine? Did he look and say, "ok, LBJ is taking action, I need to go back in time and get involved".

[Araxen]

20. She dimished MLK's accmoplishments earlier this campaign season

It's a known fact and she got grilled for it.

[juajen]

21. You're just trying to get Obama supporters off track. There has to be

lots of dismay that Obama is not in Memphis. No way Hillary would have missed this tribute to Dr. King.

[qnr]

22. That's not really true.

No, she didn't diminish MLK's actions except in the mind of those that wanted to believe that she diminished them. As nice as it would have been, as far as simplifying matters, MLK could not sign a bill into law, period. Totally disregarding any arm-pulling, ear-twisting or reasoned cajoling that either MLK or LBJ (or others involved) did, a President has to sign it into law. She knows the primary role that MLK played, and anyone that claims that she doesn't, or was trying to diminish his role is simply fooling themselves.

[Hutzpa]

33. She was diminishing MLK's

achievements and you know it, spinning and using semantics is not
going to change her statement, here it is, should in case you've
forgotten;

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to get it done."

Clinton didn't explicitly compare herself to Johnson, or Obama to King. But it seems an odd example for the argument between rhetoric and action, as there's little doubt which figure's place in history and the American imagination is more secure.

"The power of that dream became real in people's lives because we had a president" capable of action, Clinton said.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Clinton_and_Obama_Johnson_and_King.html


another thing, she asked questions as to whether America is ready for a black President,
these are all statement which are considered divisive and yet she goes out and act like
she cares when really deep down she don't give a 'fuck' as to what working class folks are
going through.

Ofcourse, with an income of $109 million why should she? I don't expect her to, her campaign
is based on returning favors.

[qnr]

34. I won't argue with you. It's patently obvious that the passage of the

Civil Rights Act was a milestone. That milestone came about because of MLK's work, however, It took a President to sign the Act. If you can't see that, it's not my problem.

And your comments about her being divisive border on the laughable as long as you don't include the actions of the Obama campaign.

[Hutzpa]

38. Hmmmmmm.....

I know, its his fault for being black and being called racist...
his surrogates should not have brought that up and stand up against
prejudice.

Her whole campaign is based on division, if YOU can't acknowledge
that then there is something wrong on your part, she plays all
kinds of divisiveness, race, sex and gender.

way to go dude!!

Whats next?

[Jane Austin]

25. It made it seem like it was "All about her".

Where she was, where she went, what she did, and how she felt - and then misting up remembering how she felt.

[tishaLA]

27. that's precisely right. the message was more about "me"

than it was about "us." And that, as Lakoff repeatedly points out, is what makes Obama so strong: he conveys a message, and creates a narrative, about us instead of about him.

[Arkansas Granny]

26. I have no idea what your age is or if you remember when Dr. King was killed.

I remember it well. It was a very emotional time. Thom Harmann played a clip today of Bobby Kennedy announcing Dr. King's death to a crowd and I choked up. There are tears in my eyes now just thinking about it. I have no doubt that any emotion displayed by Senator Clinton today concerning Dr. King was sincere. His death was a great loss to our country.

[Bongo Prophet]

31. On that we agree, Arkansas Granny

What we have in common is more powerful than our differences.
And one thing we have in common is The Dream.
:grouphug:

[DURHAM D]

28. She did not cry - but I did.

I watched her speech live. As she talked about her anger, throwing her book bag, marching in protest, etc. I remembered that day so vividly and the emotions and despair that I felt as well. I began to cry.

Then she talked about forgiveness - about loving your enemies. As she finished her speech I realized she was speaking to me. I am very angry at those who have portrayed her as a racist. When they call her a racist they are calling me a racist. I don't know that I can forgive the Obama supporters that have done this to her and to me.

As I was deep in thought my phone rang. The caller was an old friend. Like me he is a liberal, a Democrat, and a 40-50 year participant in all human and civil rights struggles. He too was crying. We talked about our anger at the Obama supporters who have defined us (as Hillary supporters) as racist and conservative when we are the opposite.

He, like me, is not certain if he can forgive you for the way you have treated us.

[rodeodance]

40. I have a lump in my as I read your post. For you and for our country.

[kid a]

45. you have a lump in your as? (its spelled ass)

[MethuenProgressive]

44. Thank you for such a wonderful response to this thread.

Peace.

[rodeodance]

39. BO sure attracks losers!

[rodeodance]

42. For those interested Hillary gave a very moving speech today-link here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5385218For