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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:37 PM
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109 MILLION in the bank and Hillary still stiffs her backers??
WTH is up with that?

Its definitely not lack of funds!

I guess its just a bad character flaw then.

Maybe she justs like to see the little people twisting in the wind?

Must be all those years she spent on the Walmart board...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:38 PM
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1. I certainly hope you are one of those who criticised her...
For using her own money... giving herself a loan... cuz you can't have it both ways.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:47 PM
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7. Hey all I know is I have to pay my bills
every month or there will be hell to pay.

But I guess its different for "the man" eh?
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:49 PM
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12. LOL
It's different for Hillary because she gave sooo much to charity. As I said before I guess those vendors are considered charity as well. No bias from the Clinton supporters though, none at all. :eyes:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:02 PM
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18. This is like most other Americans.
We pay our bills. Or stuff gets cut off and if we don't pay we get collection and then one day when we got bills piled up we might have to file for bankruptcy.

Instead Clintons sit on many millions and talk to us like they understand. They DON'T

They is no chance in hell they will ever risk bankruptcy. They never have to worry about getting sick and being a few days work or a single lost job away from bankruptcy.

They are not at risk of losing their house because some fucked up lending system.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:04 PM
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21. Do you hate all the rich?
Where's the hate for Obama?

:shrug:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:24 PM
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31. Nope
And by the time Obama makes 109 million in 7 years, if his wife decides to run and tries to appeal to the working class. I will call her on it (That is unless over 50 percent went to donations which is completely acceptable)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:49 PM
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40. He's quite a bit younger than the Clintons, right?
He'll get there.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:47 PM
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8. Sure, we can
She gave herself a loan... and vendors still weren't paid.
It was when news broke about Mrs. Clinton’s loan earlier this month that Mr. Semetis became positively alarmed and started calling the campaign almost every day. “The fact she’s lost 10 states in a row has increased the phone calls,” he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/nyregion/23owe.html

He rendered service in December, she took out the loan early February, he filed suit late February. That's either deliberate neglect or poor management.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:50 PM
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14. Lucky you! You found something else to whine about!
So, there's a lawsuit... she is automatically guilty... good job.

:eyes:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:00 PM
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16. Lol!
The suit just marks a timeline. Her crew ate Dec 15 and the caterer hadn't been paid by the end of February. Who knows if he has his money today? She's undeniably guilty of stiffing the guy for at least 2 1/2 months. Or does the space-time continuum work differently for Hillarynauts?

Back atcha, Mr/Ms Eyerolly.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:03 PM
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19. I'm not a Hillary supporter any more than I'm an Obama supporter...
I'm just happy to make fun of all y'all.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:15 PM
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26. And you do it so well
Not.

Since we're springing gotcha surprises like they matter, I'm not bananas about Obama.

But she did take out a loan and spent it in directions other than her small-vendor debts, and for some reason you really don't like hearing that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:42 PM
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42. Yeah, I think you just let your stupid
sig line go to your head.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:38 PM
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2. "Strong and Wrong" strikes again.
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 03:39 PM by anonymous171
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:39 PM
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3. If she has that kind of money why isn't she running more TV spots? Is she
saving her money for the last firewall - Puerto Rico?
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:49 PM
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11. I think Hill and Bill would rather gamble with other peoples money
while theirs is safe in a swiss bank account.:evilgrin:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:41 PM
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4. and she's also the scumbag
that tries to get people fired who don't support her-like Randi and Schuster before her. It doesn't GET any lower than that...the Clinton's truly are the new McCarthyism
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:43 PM
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5. old shyster axiom: "Screw all but six of 'em....
you gotta have pallbearers."


until you consider cremation...
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:47 PM
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6. She paid almost $40mil in taxes, MINUS $10mil in charity...
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 03:48 PM by Cooley Hurd
...so, in all fairness to her, it's not $109mil, it's... um, $59mil.:D
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:48 PM
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Divided over six years
I'm not saying it's not a lot of money - it is, but it's two wage earners, and it's split over six years. So I don't think she has $109 million "in the bank".
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:47 PM
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39. .
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:50 PM
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13. man, that's only half....
i can see why it would be hard to maintain ANY decent form of lifestyle with the pittance left after taxes....
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:48 PM
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9. not to defend her, but that's 109 million INCOME
not money in the bank, and it's over -- what, 7 years?

She paid 30+ million in taxes and gave 10 million to charity. We haven't seen the actual returns yet, but I'd assume there are business expenses, etc, that had to be deducted from that as well.

(ps: I'm an Obama supporter)
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:49 PM
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10. God damn the Clintons for being succesful and Democrats.
:sarcasm:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:01 PM
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17. yeah, stiffing poorer persons to whom she owes money is so
democratic
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:03 PM
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20. who has she stiffed?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:05 PM
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22. here
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:09 PM
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24. He's been paid
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:15 PM
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27. many others have not
including medical insurance
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:24 PM
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30. they will be
nobody's getting "stiffed".
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:08 PM
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23. This is all based on what some caterer has said...
And the Obama camp takes as gospel.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:14 PM
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25. not surprising. They'll sink to any level.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:16 PM
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28. So did you base the veracity of the sniper story
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:16 PM by tabatha
on what Clinton said?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:27 PM
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:27 PM
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33. 'puter hiccup
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:28 PM by Juniperx
hic!
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:20 PM
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29. Hillary won't even pay for her staffs health insurance!
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008/04/hillarys_bills_piling_up.html

292, 000 is walking around money for Hillary but damned if shes gonna pay her workers health premiums!

Yeah she really feels the workers pain eh? LOL
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:29 PM
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34. Do you know for a fact that Obama does?
Or is this just more spewing?
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:34 PM
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35. We are talking about Hillary's failure to pay for her own staffs health insurance
Why do you want to keep changing the subject???:eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:42 PM
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37. LOL!
I'm just making sure you are slamming Hillary properly!
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:10 PM
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43. The "caterer" is on HRC's loooonnnnngggg IOU list
on the FEC website. Along with school districts, grocery stores, event planners, health insurance companies....the list goes on and on. The info is not from a single disgruntled vendor, it is from the financial information given to the FEC from HRC's **OWN campaign**.

At one point she owed $500,000 combined to just TWO companies (Aetna and Blue Cross) on her never ending list..meanwhile, Obama's **total debt** was about $600,000 and it was to a short list of companies, no schools/stores/small businesses.

Damn that FEC financial page, huh, Hillary?? 16 days and counting til you next IOU list is published and there won't be any of this "HRC is not releasing..." on that day.
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MS68 Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:56 PM
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15. If Obama becomes president
Check his income in 14 years (difference in his and Hillary's age). I guarantee you, the Obama's will have a similar income. He's a good speaker and he'll get paid well after the presidency (if he wins) to speak. I'm sure there will be some more books too that will do even better than his previous books, as EVERYBODY will know who he is.

If you're comparing the Clinton's income to the Obama's, I don't think you're comparing apples to apples.

I live in Fayetteville, AR. You can drive down the street and see the house they lived in when they taught at U of A. It looks like it's probably about 1400 sq. feet. It's cute, but nowhere's near grand.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:42 PM
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36. Heres a list of all the people Hillary has screwed while sitting on her 109 million dollars!
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00431569/328357/sd/12

LOL SUCKERS! Its fun to be the Queen, eh Hillary?
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:42 PM
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38. but..but....it must have been Obama's fault.
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:38 PM
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41. Are you stupid, if they made $109 million over 6 years, they don't have it all
in the bank. Can you not see how much they paid in income taxes on those earnings? How about over living expenses, say like, paying approximately $12million in attys fees because the republicans didn't like you! Basically, you need really should consider the FACTS are not the BULLSHIT! Your post is BULLSHIT
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:27 PM
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44. Well , let's run the numbers
$109m in 6 years. $30m in taxes, $10m in charity. And according to you, $12m in legal fees.

Even with the $12m in legal fees, that's $57 million in 6 years take home. Or $13000 PER DAY. So, I'd guess they've got plenty in the bank...
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