Obama supporter: Frankly the Clintons have deserved to make some dough...

[Flabbergasted]

I don't begrudge them making any of the cash they have unless it is illegal or unethical.

Carry on.

[mrJJ]

1. Correct,,, but

Your correct. The irony?

Feb 19, 2008:
Hillary Clinton says "speeches don't put food on the table!"

Bill's speeches sure as hell put food on their table! $51 Million Dollars worth.

Anyone think that Hillary knew she was lying? or perhaps mis-spoke err maybe she forgot about the $51 Million.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

2. That's the whole problem. Book deals and speaking fees are fine, but

when it comes from folks who expect something back politically, it can become a problem.
Especially, if the expectations run counter to your public positions.

[sandnsea]

3. I care about the foreign connections

which I haven't looked at yet. I don't care about his speeches, unless some government flies him in, pays him a million, and then he puts in the good word for some project or other. I could care less how much money they have. Just like I didn't care how big the Edwards' house was, only that it was completely enivronmentally friendly, and it isn't.

[Flabbergasted]

8. The foreign connections are my greatest concern as well. But if they made a fortune

ethically and legally, good for them.

[blonndee]

4. ...

all just words. The Clintons know what it's like to be a struggling American. Really they do.

[BeyondGeography]

5. They cashed in on the White House and you don't give a shit

Cool.

[joshcryer]

6. Yeah, like GWB, Regan, and GWB Jr didn't and aren't.

Someone learned me a new word for it. Kleptocracy.

[BeyondGeography]

7. So we can be just like Republicans...isn't that what this site was set up to guard against?

[Auntie Bush]

10. Will you have that opinion when and if Obama is the X-president?

I think NOT when he earns MILLIONS giving speeches and gives 10% of his salary to charity. I wish I could bookmark your post and drag it out 9-10 years from now. :rofl: I think you and the other Obama supporters who are are finding fault with the Clintons and their income will have a change of heart in the future...just like McLame had to admit today.

[anigbrowl]

12. I'll let you know if Michelle runs in 2024. /nt

[BeyondGeography]

13. As if anyone besides the out-of-their-fucking-mind Clintons would try to be President AGAIN

after cashing in on the White House. Don't you see how extreme these people are?

I guess not.

[Auntie Bush]

15. And the Obama's are not going to cash in?

Oh, I forgot. The Obamas can't do anything wrong...just like God.

[Raejeanowl]

16. Are You Living In A Make-Believe World?

This has been happening for decades, and if you think Obama won't step up to reap this perk himself, you are sadly mistaken.

[BeyondGeography]

17. Like Jimmy Carter?

Like the other apologists, you miss the main point: Once you cash in, you shouldn't even dream of returning to the White House. Only in Clinton make-believe world does that make sense.

[Bolo Boffin]

18. It is impossible to not "cash in" on the White House.

I am supporting Obama in the primary and I don't begrudge them the money at all. Bill's been talking up how he's a big beneficiary of Bush's tax cuts and he'd rather not be.

I suppose that will be the next tactic of Hillary haters - going over the tax returns and pointing out when they took advantage of the Bush tax cuts. Just more silliness.

[BeyondGeography]

20. Of course...which means no ex-President should ever be allowed inside the White House again

fatally compromised by commercial relationships as they are.

[onenote]

21. how about ex-vice presidents?

Would you apply the same standard to Al Gore? He's become very very wealthy since leaving public office, charging six figures for speeches and reportedly getting in on some very lucrative investments with google and apple. Personally, I'm extremely happy for Gore and if he had run for president I would've supported him wholeheartedly. The fact he's done well after years of public service doesn't bother me at all.

[BeyondGeography]

22. It would have been a problem for Gore as well...and he didn't run, did he?

This sort of scrutiny is certainly one of the reasons why.

[TomBall Democrat]

9. What about the vendors Hillary hasn't paid?

How many of them have that kinda bank?

Do you think they have the right to begrudge Hillary her savings account? When they're not getting paid!

I think they might see things a bit differently than you.

[anigbrowl]

11. That's what bugs me as well. If she had used her loan to pay off those debts

then I'd be fine with it. I recognize that clinton was a very popular president and they have benefitted accordingly over the years.

But Senator Clinton loaning herself $5 million to buy more chips for her campaign gamble, while leaving large debts unpaid, that makes me rather skeptical. I work in the film/video field myself and it's been a tough year, so I have a lot of sympathy with vendors who are feeling abandoned by her accounts payable department. Generally you get paid on the nose, and having had some bad experiences I've become very wary of extending credit, because 30 days to pay can often end up turning into 60 or 90. Chances are these vendors gave a fairy hefty discount as well, since it's nice to be able to say you worked for a national figure. Kinda sucks when they're left holding the bag.

[Flabbergasted]

14. It's not a question of they will be paid, but when....

I'm not saying it doesn't suck to not have your accounts receivable up to date but believe it or not it is part of business.

The standard business proverb is: stretch your accounts payable as long as possible and demand your accounts receivable ASAP. In this way you have the greatest cash on hand. All businesses understand this. Clinton would be a foolish business person to handle it any other way.

[TomBall Democrat]

19. Mismanagement 101

And remarkably ironic given the way she cries over the fate of the little people.



Clinton is a fool it she thinks the American public will support her.

[Orsino]

23. There are few honest ways to get that rich.

I don't mind their cashing in on the White House so much, but for the corporate masters they associate with--the ones who can get them on the phone while you and I can't.

Americans worship the wealthy, but it's good for those returns to have been released, so that anyone who does care about our plutocracy can be an informed voter.

C'mon, McCain--gonna wait until December?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. I don't blame the Clintons, I blame us.

Public service should not be a path to riches. Wea culpa. :)

[cooolandrew]

25. Ok that's cool as long as you are happy they have spent other folks money into debt that's cool then

Not really for us Obama folk to concern ourselves too much with.

[Flabbergasted]

26. Personally I see Hillary's campaign and the finances of the Clinton's themselves as two seperate

entities. In fact this is how they see it as well as most other business people.

These are temporary campaign debts that will be settled over time and completely common. The vendors that provided services will likely charge interest for not recieving payment immediately. This makes up for most of what the damage done from not receiving payment immediately.

Even this campaign season itself there are several candidates that ended up with debts. I think Dodd and Richardson both had debts among others. These were to some extent debts owed to vendors as well. Also these two folks are, I believe, quite wealthy. Double standard?

Believe it or not the Clintons are not doing something that every other business person world wide does.