Hillary I have some questions for you about this Hospital story

[NJmaverick]

You were told a story, second hand.

You had your staff try and verify it, only they were unable to do so.


The story sounded far fetched and just cried out for verification before you passed it off as fact.


SO WHY DID YOU TELL THE STORY??????


Most internet message board posters are crucified if they post rumors, that are not qualified as such.

So how can you hold yourself to a lower standard than an anonymous internet poster??????


I don't post far fetched stories, no matter how good they sound, unless I can verify them. If I can't verify them, I either don't post them or I qualify them as only rumor.

Why are your standards so Low?????

[papau]

1. The family of the women was the source - so now they are known to be liars?

[Hepburn]

5. Oh, please....

...stop and be realistic for even one second: Families of people who die tragically often unintentionally allow emotions to get in the way of facts.

Hillary was too stupid, too lazy or too dishonest to deal with this? Your choice ~~ and, of course, you certainly can choose all or a combination of two to explain this further less than factual bullshit from her.

[OzarkDem]

19. What were the facts, pray tell?

Do you have some proof this woman had insurance other than the hospital's word? Do you have proof that she didn't face some other financial barrier to care? Have you seen Sicko?

[NJmaverick]

6. No a sherrif's deputy claims to have heard it from the family

Which technically make it a third hand source.

Still Hillary doubted it enough, to try and have it verified. So why tell it, when her staff was unable to do so?????

[Zachstar]

2. Indeed confirming sources in the Internet age is a MUST.

Candidates were already feeling the sting as far back as the mid 90s from internet research and archives.

So over a decade later it is even more important!

[NJmaverick]

14. Very true

So what sort of judgment does a person have who goes ahead and passes the story off as fact, after her staff was unable to verify.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

3. She is just exhibiting her leadership skills...

:sigh:

[NJmaverick]

8. I think more like Judgement and she showed that her's can be lacking

Although one could argue that good judgement is part of being a good leader.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

9. My point exactly.

I suppose I should have inserted the sarcasm tag instead.

[sandnsea]

4. It does not sound far-fetched at all

Do you believe people don't die because they don't have the payments required??

[NJmaverick]

7. If that's the case why did she have her staff try to verify the accuracy?

and worse, why tell it when you couldn't verify the story. Which can happen if the story isn't true.

[sandnsea]

13. She believed a sheriff

:shrug:

It does seem to me there had to be a vetted story she could tell. But maybe she just believed the sheriff and it seemed personal to her because she heard it with her own ears.

Still, the real point here is that people can have insurance and still die if they don't have the co-pays. Mandated insurance is not a solution.

[NJmaverick]

15. No she didn't- She had her staff try and verify

only they were unable to do so. THEN she went ahead and passed the story off as fact anyway. So how can we trust what she tells us???

Plus even the Sheriff was telling a story he had heard from a relative of the woman involved. So it wasn't exactly like she got first hand info, more like second or third hand

[sandnsea]

17. People With Insurance DIE

That is a much more important aspect to this than a mistake about a campaign story.

[NJmaverick]

23. People die, unfortunately it's a fact of life

Not every death is the result of negligence. The reality is that medicine has limits

[anigbrowl]

26. Most hospitals will try to work something out

I broke my arm a few years ago while uninsured - I got sent a big bill but I wasn't denied treatment, and they were patient while I got the $ together over the following months (it was paid in full, in case anyone wants to start accusing me of freeloading).

[sandnsea]

29. They have to take emergencies

If she wasn't Emergency Room sick, they may have refused to see her without the $100 co-pay if that's what her insurance policy required. Or that's what she thought and maybe she waited too long to get help.

[BlooInBloo]

10. Sounds like we need to convene a commission on blogger ethics STAT!

[DemVet]

11. Kind of like Obama talking to the Captain that went to Iraq.

[NJmaverick]

12. The captain had first hand knowledge of the situation

Which is better than third hand knowledge, which is all Hillary had. Still the Captain's story was proven to be true, so far nothing other than the deaths has checked out on Hillary's unverified story. Even Hillary had doubts about the story, or she wouldn't have had her staff check it out. To then go ahead and use the story, after they couldn't verify it, was irresponsible at best.

[DemVet]

25. No, his story was not proven true. Too many inconsistencies.

[anigbrowl]

27. It was Afghanistan, not Iraq. Way to go with your accuracy point.

And it was the Pentagon that backed down on that one. Even the RWers I know gave up trying to push that accusation.

[DearAbby]

16. I realize that her

only thought was to show the need of healthcare for all Americans, but she should have verified the story. There are enough horror stories out there.

[OzarkDem]

18. You're absolutely correct

How dare she tell the story of the tragic death of a woman and her unborn child who didn't get proper medical care.

How dare she object to the fact that the hospital is now spinning the story to cover up for the tragic death?

This is America, where we exploit tragedy routinely to make Obama look good.

[JBoy]

20. Too bad she felt she had to embellish the story with non-facts.

I have a friend that does that. He's what's know as a "bullshitter". But he's not running for President.

[pdxmom]

21. If she tried to verify it, then why is she telling the story as the deputy

telling her about it? Isn't the first line of verification the family he said he heard it from? So why not call them, offer condolences and ask about the incident, offering to help them if you could? That would be first-hand confirmation of the story from the people who directly affected. She could have then told the story first hand.

I think that either they never tried to verify it or they tried to verify it, found that the real story wasn't as compelling as the deputy's story and decided to just go with it. Either of those options are unacceptable.

[NJmaverick]

22. Either way it doesn't exactly paint her in a good light

[johnnydrama]

24. why should she vet a curious story?

It's not like she's been caught in a huge, gigantic lie that has hurt her campaign over the last few weeks.

:sarcasm:

[george_maniakes]

28. not a good news day for hillary...

penn fired by colombia, this thing, it throws her off message.