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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:56 PM
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Obama Adviser Calls for 60,000-80,000 U.S. Troops; To Stay in Iraq Through 2010
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 08:02 PM by jackson_dem
"Change you can believe in" :rofl:

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WASHINGTON — A key adviser to Senator Obama’s campaign is recommending in a confidential paper that America keep between 60,000 and 80,000 troops in Iraq as of late 2010, a plan at odds with the public pledge of the Illinois senator to withdraw combat forces from Iraq within 16 months of taking office.


The paper, obtained by The New York Sun, was written by Colin Kahl for the center-left Center for a New American Security. In “Stay on Success: A Policy of Conditional Engagement,” Mr. Kahl writes that through negotiations with the Iraqi government “the U.S. should aim to transition to a sustainable over-watch posture (of perhaps 60,000–80,000 forces) by the end of 2010 (although the specific timelines should be the byproduct of negotiations and conditions on the ground).”

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Both Mr. Kahl and a senior Obama campaign adviser reached yesterday said the paper does not represent the campaign’s Iraq position. Nonetheless, the paper could provide clues as to the ultimate size of the residual American force the candidate has said would remain in Iraq after the withdrawal of combat brigades. The campaign has not publicly discussed the size of such a force in the past.

This is not the first time the opinion of an adviser to the Obama campaign has differed with the candidate’s stated Iraq policy. In February, Mr. Obama’s first foreign policy tutor, Samantha Power, told BBC that the senator’s current Iraq plan would likely change based on the advice of military commanders in 2009. She has since resigned her position as a formal adviser.

http://www.nysun.com/politics/obama-adviser-calls-troops-stay-iraq-through-2010
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:56 PM
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1. will you vote for our nominee?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:58 PM
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3. .
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:57 PM
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2. Page not found
Another baseless lie you're linking to? What are you linking to?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:58 PM
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:00 PM
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5. Thank goodness that he has surpassed his thread limit for today. n/t
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 08:01 PM by NJSecularist
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:01 PM
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6. Try this.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:05 PM
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7. And the Surrogate Wars just keep on going
I remember the old days of campaigns when it used to be about what the candidates themselves actually said.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:05 PM
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8. Bush changed that. He proved how important a candidate's advisers are
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:30 PM
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11. So I take it you want Penn to resign?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:10 PM
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15. He is a policy adviser?
I do want him to resign but for other reasons. You can't equate a strategist to a policy adviser, which is what Wolfowitz and co. all were.
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:23 PM
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9. At least his advisor doesnt work for the Iranian government.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:11 PM
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16. The government Obama wants to meet with in his first year?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:28 PM
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10. Will his first official act be to ask for a Sustainable Over-Watch Posture Resolution?
And will he fund it?
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:40 PM
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12. So what's your point???
Barack Obama has made it clear he does NOT want to be surrounded by "Yes" people. He wants advisors with different opinions than his own. He appreciates intelligent discussion with his advisors.

So if an advisor has different ideas than the campaign position--it is not anything to get all excited over.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:12 PM
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17. So let's just "hope" his campaign rhetoric is not just words
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:21 PM
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19. I think we hope that with all politicians....n/t
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:43 PM
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13. So what did Obama say?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:01 PM
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14. NY Sun claims the Center for a New American Security. is center left
including Philip Zelikow who until recently served as Counselor to Condoleezza Rice, Peter Feaver of the National Security Council, and a lot of folks from the uniformed services -- who reportedly are 70% Republican and 30% Democrat in their ranks.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002196.php

After all it is the NY Sun....


Both Mr. Kahl and a senior Obama campaign adviser reached yesterday said the paper does not represent the campaign’s Iraq position.

Mr. Kahl yesterday said, “This has absolutely zero to do with the campaign.” He added, “There are elements that are consistent with the Democratic Party’s approach, and I will leave it to others to find out if there are elements that are not.”

http://www.nysun.com/politics/obama-adviser-calls-troops-stay-iraq-through-2010

Sounds like some one has it wrong.



Richard L. Armitage is on the board of the Center for a New American Security

The paper, obtained by The New York Sun, was written by Colin Kahl for the center-left Center for a New American Security.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_a_New_American_Security

http://www.nysun.com/politics/obama-adviser-calls-troops-stay-iraq-through-2010

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:15 PM
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18. LET IT SINK!!!1! ALERT AND IGNORE!!1!1 RUN AROUND IN CIRCLES!!!1!
CRAP YOUR PANTS!!!1!!!!11!1
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:24 PM
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20. more distortions and spin from the desperate hillary crusaders.....
blah blah blah blah
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:54 PM
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21. What spin? What distortion? Those are just words--his adviser's words
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