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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:57 PM
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"Obama's 'Sweetie' Problem"
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The Ghost Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:59 PM
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1. Thanks for the links, sweetie.
n/t
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:03 PM
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10. Ooops, Obama makes a sexist remark? haha! jackass!
"While flirting with female factory workers in Allentown, he called one "sweetie," a paternalistic way to address a woman if there ever was one. It might have worked had he been trying to do his best imitation of Lily Tomlin's Ernestine, the telephone operator, but this was no spoof. This was Obama trying to relate to working-class women in a way that went directly south."

:dem: :rofl:
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The Ghost Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:05 PM
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17. Desperate
Hillary is 0.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:06 PM
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20. You assume Bill Clinton never called the many women he's slept with while married, sweetie?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:08 PM
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28. What does BC have to do with Obama?
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:10 PM
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33. He's campaigning against him.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:13 PM
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42. He's campaigning against him. You seem to be faux-outraged about "sweetie"
and have no problem with Bill fucking women while married who are his daughter's age, at the same time. INTERESTING!!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:16 PM
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51. Really low.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:35 AM
Response to Reply #51
126. really true
you would like it if everyone just overlooked Bill's shortcomings, wouldn't you?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #126
155. since they are portraying themselves as a package, bill's problems
with women are open for commentary. frankly, I would have hacked his dick off because it makes hillary look like someone who isn't attractive and exciting enough to keep him home. I don't want 4=8 more years of this shit.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:37 PM
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177. He can call me sweetie anytime...
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:58 AM
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117. If there's no connection then Hillary shouldn't count her White House years as experience.
Either we get them as a pair or we don't. In '92 we were told they were a pair and Hillary believes being First Lady/Man plays a large role. In that case, Bill will play a role and is part of the discussion.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:09 PM
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31. Sorry, No right wingers allowed here. Go away!
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:14 PM
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43. How is that right wing? Its a fact. You can't be outraged by sweetie and not by
Bil Clinton's cigar sticking...
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:17 PM
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54. Get off it.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:21 PM
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62. truth hurts.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:24 PM
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64. Oh! Is that what Bill told Monica? oooooooooooh
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:38 PM
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69. It's people like you that make it difficult
for people like me to EVER vote for Obama.. Your ilk are making me hate him. You can't tell me he doesn't know what his supporters are saying on dissuasion boards. I frankly think he encourages it and is laughing all the way to the back with your money. He's running because of pure personal reasons. He knows how much Clinton made on giving speeches and he just wants to outdo him. He's not thinking about you or your wants or the country's needs. He just wants more money for his movement and his place in history! That's all your hero wants!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:44 PM
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75. Thank you.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #69
79. Because Hillary, who now is begging pledged delegates to switch to her,
isn't running for her own ego AT ALL! Yes, Obama reads DU nightly, are you friggen serious?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #79
114. What you didn't get you PM of encouragment directly
from Obama? :sarcasm:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #69
102. Yeah, and he lies about nonexistent sniper fire too.
Oh, wait, that's YOUR lying candidate.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:48 PM
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167. He just lies about who he has heard "in church"
He lied about knowing what kind of hateful things Wright was saying.
He lied when he "forgot" that he knew Tony Rezko.
He lied about not giving him political favors...and more to come in the future.

I seriously think those lies are far more important than sniper fire.
But Obie supporters distort things so badly they can't see or think straight...you inclusive.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #69
122. Stop your lame threats.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #69
159. you amaze me. he can't be running because he wants to do something
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 12:27 PM by roguevalley
for america. you seem to think that only principled stands are hers. she could have made them when it cost something back in 2002 and 2003 but she did the expedient thing each time. what a sad post, auntie bush. I am truly surprised by your remarks. if obama was about money, he could have made it out of college but he went into community service for minor ducats instead. pure personal reasons? And hillary isn't? How can she be the only one in the race with nobler intentions? Just because you say so? My man Edwards put both of them in the shade. He isn't in the race and I mourned but then I moved on. Your girl is losing because the country is rejecting her for someone else. Obama isn't telling each person how to vote. He is offering something else and they want it. More money for his movement and place in history? That doesn't even make sense. I am sorry you are so bitter. I was too for Edwards. And then I moved on. So should you.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:17 PM
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174. Can't you read between the lines
and see where I was coming from? Read the posts before me and you will see I deserved to be very angry...and so I responded with an angry answer and said things I would normally never have said. I rarely make negative comments about Obama. I spend my time criticizing the stupid comments here about Hillary and supporting her. But that poster/teenager was hitting below the belt and I noticed you didn't tell her/him to knock it off...but you take the time to criticize me. This is suppose to be a Democratic board and not FR tossing out pure RW talking points.

To sum it all up...I was trying to think of the nastiest unfair thing I could think of to show that person/animal how it feels to hit below the belt. Use you sense of psychology when you read people's post and see where they are coming from before you form an opinion.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #64
92. I took up for you when you were attacked with an ugly sexual comment last week.
I wish I hadn't now.

You have proved just how vile you can be.

Disgusting.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #54
123. Boo hoo...
...:eyes:



There ya go...pass these out at your next Hillbot get together, OK?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #43
89. I love the sanctimonious attitudes here.
If every facet of your sex life had been subject to "independent investigation," you'd not be so smug about it.



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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:10 AM
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93. I'm simply stating the hypocrisy of Cllinton supporters, upset about Obama calling someone "sweetie"
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #43
149. Its a classic right wing tactic
she's using on you. Don't respond to it. Right wingers always use false labels against someone to detract from facts when the facts are stacked against them - which they usually are.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #43
158. Hey, that's
...a great Right-Wing talking point. Congratulations for hitting rock bottom.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:16 PM
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47. Low.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #47
55. is it low to bring up what happened? i'm so sorry.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #55
78. Why not stick to topic?
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #78
100. I'm simply stating the hypocrisy.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #55
90. In political debate, you betcha.
Unless you're a freeper.

:shrug:
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #55
169. oh my god
a moment of clarity
THIS is why hillary makes up so many lies
if not she might have to face her reality
i am sure her make believe world is much better
no 22 year old human humidors in her fantasy land
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #20
88. OMG the CLENIS!!!1
Run!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:29 AM
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131. It's a cheesy-assed attempt to change the subject--a favorite logical fallacy of Obamites.
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 06:30 AM by Perry Logan
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #20
138. more BO fan obsession with Bill C's penis
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #10
30. And Miss Erbe jokes about someone being raped. haha! jackass!
:hi:
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #30
39. Didn't you get the memo? When she makes rape jokes, it's charming.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #10
99. OMG.
I didn't know.

I call everyone sweetie...male, female, young, old, working class, upper class.

I'm so ashamed.

I didn't realize I was a paternalistic sexist. :yoiks:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #99
109. You learn something new here everyday.
:)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #10
101. You're going to be so sad when clinton finally quits.
NT!

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:31 AM
Response to Reply #10
136. Sexism sucks even when it's candy coated
It sucks even cotton pickin' moment. (Just as racism does - and they are both revealed in those small moments.)

Small stuff indeed. but significant. Just like the minor office sex pest.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #10
154. What a joke. this should be labeled. I call everyone sweetie or
hon. in the south, that is common practice among some people and is an endearment. if you want to make it the second coming, go ahead. it still pales in comparison to bosnia and the rest but don't let reality slow you down. Sweetie.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:00 PM
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2. Big word at the top of the pages. .OPINION
let me know when you have some facts that need debating. We have enough opinions here already..
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
14. Opinion columnist and Hillary supporter
Her prior column dated 4/02/08 was titled: The Numbers in Hillary's Favor.



http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/4/2/the-numbers-in-hillarys-favor.html
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. So not only is she a hillary supporter, but
she's delusional as well. Good cyber-sleuthing.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:00 PM
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3. it's not going to be easy for you when Hillary drops/is forced out, is it? :(
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. You are one of the most rabid..
anti-Hillary people around here.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Are you a "rabid" anti-Obama person here? n/t
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:04 PM
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13. and you are one of the most rabid anti-Obama people around here.
....so? I was simply making an observation. Unless you're saying it WON'T be hard when she gets out for you, which in that case, I am happy for you. :)
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:06 PM
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22. i second that...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #22
32. third
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #32
95. Tenth nt
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #13
170. do i see a love match brewing?
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Renaissance Man Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:01 PM
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5. Why is this a thread?
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:04 PM by Renaissance Man
So Randi Rhodes calls Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro whores AND something's wrong with Barack Obama referring to a woman as "sweetie"?

Something as endearing as the term "sweetie" is now problematic?

LOL
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Don't you understand?!? Obama's SEXIST.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:02 PM by GarbagemanLB
lol
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #6
53. They've got it in their heads that Obama hates women
and no amount of silly "facts" will change their minds.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:39 AM
Response to Reply #5
139. Why was bookbags many threads ?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:40 AM
Response to Reply #5
140. Why have there been OUTRAGE about faux tears/chocking up?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #5
156. Because women deserve respect
and when male political leaders treat women and the issues affecting them in a dismissive manner, it hurts everyone.

Do you support racism? I doubt it. So why would you support sexism? Its just as harmful.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:02 PM
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8. Appreciate the heads up, gorgeous!
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:03 PM
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9. You wasted a thread on THIS?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. I got it in before midnight.
However if the shoe were on the other foot, we would never hear the end of it.
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. I call dudes and girls "babe" a lot
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #18
146. 145 replies later...if you build it...
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #146
147. ...it will flame.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. ...
They're too lazy to click the link..

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #19
29. True.
All they can do is chant "Yes We Can".
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #19
36. Unlike you AX10 provides one.
:rofl:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:03 PM
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11. Are you a comedian?
Cause you're cracking me up tonight!

:rofl:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:04 PM
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15. I call both males and females Darlin'
What does that make me?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. Doubly sexist
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #24
34. The other day, I called a young woman at the grocery store "Dude"
Does that cancel out Darlin'? ;)
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #34
52. Unfortunately no
You're a triple sexist. You better stop while you're ahead.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. When I waited tables, I used to call older people kids
Is there hope for me?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #56
80. Really, please, just stop
Ageist.


;)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #80
87. In a past life I sailed the Aegean Sea
I called it a pond.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #87
160. blogslut, best post on this list.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #24
73. Or just doubling your chances ...
of getting a date for Saturday night :pals:
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #24
171. double may not cover it
they may be insulting the glbt crowd too so it could be as high as as sextuple
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #15
76. I call everyone Sugartits. The men like it least.
:sarcasm:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:50 PM
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81. LOL
:rofl:
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:01 PM
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172. i gotta buy stock
in a keyboard manufacturer
and why does coke (the drink)hurt so much when it comes out your nose?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:05 PM
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16. Of course the masses in La La land (here) won't care, but others might. Thank you!
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:06 PM
Original message
Doubt it
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:15 PM
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45. The woman who gives me my bacon biscuit and eggs every morning at work
calls me 'sweetie'. It never occured to me to be offended or take it as a demeaning remark.

I'll be sure to tell her how outraged I am next monday.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:25 PM
Original message
You got that right ~ it sounds a whole lot better
than....


Hey You

Missy

Madame

or Grandma

He can call me anything, just so he calls this Senior Sweetie named goclark! :bounce:

Seriously, he appears to be a person that is easy to talk to and he is meeting millions of people.

I am amazed that he can even keep smiling.

Remember the other two candidates "misspeak" all the time but that's OK.

Give it a rest ````````````````` pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
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Renaissance Man Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:06 PM
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21. Stinky Hands
Your hands must be stinky after this thread, because you (and the writer of that Op Ed) pulled it completely out of your asses.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:08 PM
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25. was he getting a blow job from them while his wife was in another room
in the same building when he said this ?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:08 PM
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26. Bonnie Erbe may want to look in her own closet before letting this bother her.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:08 PM by Forkboy
On the weekend of the so-called Million Mom March, conservative panelist Linda Chavez of the Center for Equal Opportunity explained why she recently broke a liberal taboo by buying a gun at a gun show: "If you're someone like me, who lives out in a rural area-if someone breaks into my house and wants to murder or rape me or steal all of my property, it'll take half an hour for a policeman to get to me."

Liberal Eleanor Holmes Norton disputed the usefulness of guns. Erbe dismissed the argument altogether: "And if you look at the statistics, I would bet that you have a greater chance of being struck by lightning, Linda, than living where you live, and at your age, being raped. Sorry." Before anyone could react, Erbe moved the discussion to a new topic. Can you imagine a man telling Chavez that?


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_200006/ai_n8917159

Now, Erbe is cool enough to go after Chavez, who does indeed suck, but to complain about someone saying "sweetie" (which I've seen used in every walk of life from both sexes towards the other) while joking about someone being raped seems a tad hypocritical.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:16 PM
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50. No comment AX10?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:38 PM
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70. Why do you Hillaryis44 people always run like cowards?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:19 PM
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58. that's just disgusting
it also suggest rape is just about wanting sex. when there are factors such as power, violence, threats to it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:21 PM
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61. But "sweetie" is crossing the line, apparently.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:59 AM
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128. If "sweetie" upsets them
Wait until they find out Sen. Clinton has cooties 'cuz she's a gurl.

And it must be true because I haven't used LOL or the :sarcasm: tag.

Pre-edit edit: Oh look, i just did.

Soon enough, they'll be looking back fondly on the days of "Let it Sink"
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:08 PM
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27. It may not be that big a deal, but Sweetiegate trumps Bookbaggate, that's undeniable. /nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:11 PM
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38. Great...a competition between two inane stories.
:crazy:
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:10 PM
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35. Bill Clinton slept with women young enough to be his daughter for years while married and
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:11 PM by loveangelc
used his position of power to silence and intimidate many of them, but that's not as bad as calling a girl 'sweetie' to Hillary supporters.

And I would much rather be called sweetie by Obama than Bill Clinton's ugly face.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:12 PM
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40. Clinton's affairs were all consenting.
Now, you are as bad as Sean Hannity.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:15 PM
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46. So they were OK? Just what you're looking for in a president? n/t
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:16 PM
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48. You're a hypocrite. And I saw an old video of someone alleging it was not consenting.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:16 PM by loveangelc
Call me as bad as Sean Hannity, but it's typical that a Hillary supporter would be outraged by Obama calling a woman "sweetie" and not having sex with women he has enormous power over and were close to his own daughter's age.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:16 PM
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49. Juanita Broderick would disagree with that.
And so would Paula Jones.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:01 AM
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143. We should not be choosing between the sexism of
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. An argument that what Obama said is okay because what Bill did was much worse is weak at best. Sexism is wrong no matter who promotes it.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:36 PM
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161. sweetie is such a paltry thing when you consider that there are
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 12:36 PM by roguevalley
ENTIRE COUNTRIES WHERE WOMEN CAN'T EVEN LEAVE THEIR HOUSES! What dickheads americans can be. wake me up when real sexism shows up.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:11 PM
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37. At least he didn't call them "fucking whores,"
That kind of stuff is best left to his followers.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:14 PM
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44. And thankfully she didn't call him Bomba in return.
:rofl:
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:21 AM
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129. Good point.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:13 PM
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41. Personally, it's not a term that would bother me if he called me that.
Or if other people called me that.

The exception I would make is if it were done in a sarcastic tone, or said by someone who meant it in an underhanded way.

That's me. I understand that some people wouldn't like it at all.

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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:18 PM
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57. As a man, I've often been called "Sweetie" by women.
Only now do I see how pissed off I should have been. And all this time, I thought it was a term of endearment! Thanks for peeling the scales from my eyes! Ass.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:19 PM
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59. I wish he would call me Sweetie ~ I would be dancing
in the streets. :bounce:

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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:21 PM
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60. *Plonked* for Faux outrage.
I think Hillary supporters who bring up these faux sexist argument all the time are themselves sexist.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:22 PM
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63. SWEETIE-GATE! I am fauxtraged!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:43 PM
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74. LOL! n/t
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:47 AM
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107. His campaign is OVER. HE CAN'T WIN! Sweetiegate!!1!
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:25 PM
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65. Hillaryously, right now people are thinking, "well maybe Obama is kind of a regular Joe"
Thanks, Hillary. Please keep attacking, it's sells Obama better in more ways than you'll ever imagine.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:27 PM
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66. This thread should be brought up every time a Hillary supporter complains about "handbag-gate".
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:27 PM by Forkboy
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:00 AM
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148. Both are fucking stupid as hell
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:27 PM
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67. doesn't scraping around in dumpster bottoms trash your fingernails?
must smell like hell too
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:36 PM
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68. What a sweet story
:rofl:
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:40 PM
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71. Fauxtrageous. It must really suck to be a Clinton supporter if you have to rely on stuff like this.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:41 PM
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72. I love the smell of desperation in the morning
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:46 PM
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77. Whether it's widely considered sexist or not
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:48 PM by loyalsister
may depend on what part of the country you're in.
I would argue that in the south the exchange of "sweetie's" and "darlin's" is cross gender if women are speaking and accepted vernacular for women coming from men in southern regions.

That has been my experience in Missouri.

This does not delegitimize complaints about the language. It is difficult to adjust while traveling, but necessary.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:52 PM
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83. I'm in Mass and I hear it all the time.
The lady at my my favorite pizza joint calls me "honey" and "sweetie" every time I go there.

Which is more than I should. :)
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:12 AM
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94. True. I'm in Texas and I've regularly been called "sweetie" and "honey" by older women.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:51 PM
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82. Obama can call me "Sweetie" anytime he pleases.
:evilgrin:
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:53 PM
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84. Thanks for the links cupcake.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:54 PM
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85. Tell me you're fucking kidding...
Tell me that you're not seriously suggesting that the next President of the United States, the next person with his finger on the nuclear button and the lives and livelihoods of millions of Americans at stake, should be decided on the basis of the word Sweetie.

Tell me you're not that fucking stupid or deranged to think that this is how we should pick the next President. With more than 4,000 GI's dead in Iraq, tell me that you're not fucking serious.

It's official. I have heard every single lame-ass argument from Camp Hillary imaginable, and now I've heard one that I couldn't have possibly imagined.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:57 PM
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86. "Tell me you're not that fucking stupid or deranged"
Don't hold your breath.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:02 AM
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91. Bill cheats on his wife and gets head in the White House..but Obama calling a girl sweety is sexist?
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 12:04 AM by NJSecularist
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Some of you really are just dying to dig up the latest "scandal" on Obama when there is nothing here. Pathetic.

What Bill did was infinitely more demeaning to woman than any made-up faux outrage but the usual Clintonbots.

The dying days of a campaign... not a pretty sight.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:18 AM
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96. The last gasps of the Clinton campaign will provide much hilarity.
For sure.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #96
103. 56%
is the current number of Hillary supporters that will move to McCain

56%

I hope you see the 'hilarity' in that


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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:43 AM
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104. Hilarity? Nope. Just disgust in the confirmation of my suspicions.
Where's that number from anyway?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:46 AM
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106. Rasmussen
thursday or friday
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:44 AM
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105. So that's the number of Repukes supporting Hillary? wow!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:48 AM
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108. looks like a lot of dems voting repub if O is the nominee
Hillary attracts NO repubs

I doubt even the older female supporters have any repubs in the mix
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:50 AM
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110. What a bunch of fucking sorry assed excuses for democrats they are.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:40 PM
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163. they won't be and aren't dems if they can seriously entertain that
notion. and i would say they are sorry americans to enable a warmonger and a self-admitted economy dimwit. I hope they all get drafted first.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:59 AM
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118. Well... Obama still does better in head to heads against McCain..
Hillary loses in head to heads against McCain... You wanna know why that is? It's because Obama makes up for the loss of Hillary's faux democrats... with faux republicans and faux independents and true democrats.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:13 AM
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124. we shall see
in November
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:03 AM
Response to Reply #103
121. Does that count the Republicans currently voting for Hillary
to hurt the party as in Texas and Ohio?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:42 AM
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127. you dumbasses will not hold this Party hostage
we will call your bluff.

are you voting McCain, Miss Arizona? If so, I think there is a Tombstone around her with your name on it.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #127
152. you dumbasses will not hold this Party hostage
with threats to disrupt the convention and playing the race card every chance you get
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:33 AM
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153. Hillary is the one threatening to disrupt the Convention
Fortunately, this contest will have been decided long before Denver.
Once Hillary has failed in her equal opportunity to catch up, she will be shown the door.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #103
162. 56%? well, i wish all forty of them well.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:22 AM
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97. Absolutely Fabulous, Sweetie darling
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:34 AM
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98. Barack can call me SWEETIE all day long
:loveya:

You guys live by double standards. OOPS, I called you guys. Quick call the sexist police.


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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:51 AM
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111. Wow! Thanks!
Sounds like this Obamer feller's just bad news. Thanks so much for your head's-up.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:55 AM
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112. To sum up this OP....
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:56 AM
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113. It's going to be a long
silly season!

Just when I think it can't get more ridiculous, someone delightfully proves me wrong. :rofl:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:57 AM
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115. well "hon"....it will get siller...
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:58 AM
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116. If you could combine snubgate and bookbaggate, this is what you would get.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:02 AM
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119. OMG... my 2 year old daughter and I were both sexually harassed..
at the ER this morning... This female doctor called me sweetie then a little later called my daughter sweetie... I guess I have to file a lawsuit... I can see the headlines now...


"father and daughter sexually harassed by doctor in emergency room" I wonder if she will get her license suspended.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:42 PM
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164. hope you and your daughter are both all right.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:02 AM
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120. Erbe clearly doens't get it.
The MLK/LBJ discussion wasn't about a gotcha game of who made an offensive remark. It showed how the two candidates fundamentally view things differently. Obama is a movement activist by background who thinks change comes from the bottom-up. Hillary spent her life working "in the system" and believes change comes from the top-down. I think Erbe missed the point.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:15 AM
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125. It can't be worse than this:
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:26 AM
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130. Probably more pandering for the vote
than sexist in this case.

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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:31 AM
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132. If Hillary had committed some analogous sin, the Obamites would be barfing all over the place.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:23 AM
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133. Oh My God.
Hide your women. Obama is flirting with them.

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:28 AM
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134. Face it folks - this is small stuff
...but significant in its own way.

Insignificant but symptomatic.

Sexism sucks even when it's candy coated.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:24 PM
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157. Very signficant and very telling
about how Obama regards women. We have a right to judge him on it.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:43 PM
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166. I totally agree actually
...it IS telling.
Sexist crap IS sexist crap.

And the more i think about this the more annoyed i get at Obama for his attitudes and assumprions and his followers for their easy dismissal.

What really gets me are the excuses and the explaining away and all the rest of the denial.
Strikes me that Obama is probably deeply sexist. This is the indication of that iceberg.

The storm in the teapot is the Obama folk denying it has any significance. it does. They should know better. We all should.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:31 AM
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135. Good thing he didn't Mis-speak and say "stinky" ...... n/t
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:36 AM
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137. Holy shit
:rofl:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:42 AM
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141. If I had a dime for every time someone called me
"sweetie," "dear," or "honey," I'd be as rich as a Clinton. It boggles the mind people with enough intelligence to read are focused on this. We know, of course, what will happen. A tape will soon surface of Hillary condescendingly calling someone something and so it goes. Like hamsters on a giant trivia wheel.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:12 AM
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145. "Like hamsters on a giant trivia wheel."....LMAO!!! n/t
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:42 AM
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142. What th "sweetie" quote doesn't mention is that the women in question
were all between 50 and 60 years old...

He was being just trying to be sweet around them. This is so wrong to try to imply it as being sleazy or sexist.

Just look at the picture of these workers in the factory. It gives ALL the context.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:17 PM
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175. Sucks ever more.
imo.

Speaks to me because it resonates with the fact that I have always found him sanctimonious and patronizing. That's just me. I guess.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:36 AM
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144. Holy flying fuck! I want my donation back!
Somebody wake me when the stupid threads on GD-P come to an end.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:07 AM
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150. 'Sweetie-Gate"?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:15 AM
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151. Life imitating a George Carlin routine
"I like to piss off any group that take's itself a little bit too seriously.
An it does not take a lot of imagination to piss off a feminist."

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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:53 PM
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165. Another hit by a Richard Nixon Democrat.
I'm so tired of these bullshit "problems" the right wing nut pull out of their asses to attack Obama with.

You'd almost think there might be an ulterior motive behind tearing down the likely Democratic nominee, huh?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:51 PM
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168. And the double standard continues on DU and what is really amazing
is that in not one of these posts does does any author even acknowledge the fact that had Clinton said it--they would be peeing their pants in outrage.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:06 PM
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173. Sweetie? Are You Kidding Me?
People who have called me Sweetie this week:

Legal Assistant at federal court in Cleveland
"Snack Bar Lady" at Federal court building in Cleveland (once a day, every day last week)
Front Desk Manager at Hilton Garden Inn, Cleveland (twice)
Bartender at XO Steakhouse, Cleveland
Random bus driver
Lady in line to get picture at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame


Those are just the ones I can remember over the past week here in Cleveland. I have a good memory for "sweetie" because that (and Irish) is what I call my girlfriend while we're around the house and she always pokes fun at me when someone calls me sweetie. She calls me "babe." It's simply a term of endearment. Who knew that both my girlfriend and I were raving sexists (along with, apparently, the majority of the population of Cleveland).
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:34 PM
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176. OK, that's the end of Obama for sure.
Pastorgate didn't do it, but sweetiegate will. We might as well all get behind Hillary because Obama will drop out any minute now.

:sarcasm:
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