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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:57 PM
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Clinton drops hospital story from stump speech (without acknowledging error...?)
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 01:01 PM by truthpusher
(CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton will stop telling an emotional story about a uninsured pregnant woman who died after being denied medical care, Clinton's campaign said.

Sen. Hillary Clinton was repeating a story she heard from someone on the campaign trail.

A hospital has raised questions over the accuracy of the story, and Clinton's campaign has said although they had no reason to doubt the story, they were unable to confirm the details.

more:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/06/clinton.hospital/
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:01 PM
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1. I would have done the same thing if I were her
The hospital asked her to quit telling the story and she did. Why say anything else.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:24 PM
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8. It's more like Ohio asked her to stop lying and youtube is exposing her again
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 02:24 PM by Catherina
How come Hillary's lies always have so many details?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THzgXqlmacY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A33DEl3y5Tg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq5BwOujrNQ

She can't talk about Bosnia, Ireland, NAFTA or this now. What lie will she make up next?

Four Pinnochios.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:30 PM
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9. Well that is why if I were her I'd just go on as if I never said anything
I'm still just mystified over why she feels it necessary to make stuff up.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:02 PM
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13. I don't get it either
If Hillary had run on her own merits and not told all those lies, she'd be so much further. She's destroying her own campaign with them.

I think she's been lying for so long, both of them, that they don't even think before doing it. It's infuriating to see a woman get that far and self-destruct like that.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:10 PM
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17. please read:
A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

(snip)




More: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?bl&ex=1207627200&en=68723c5e35a1af24&ei=5087%0A
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:02 PM
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28. Do candidates usually tell stories they don't know are true that DESTROY OTHER'S REPUTATIONS?
If so, that's not any better than just making it up in the first place!

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:27 PM
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20. Whoever is responding to me up above. Give it up.
You made my pretty exclusive ignore list and I'm not taking you off ignore to see who you are or what you said.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:59 PM
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27. It's weird, right? I mean, these lies are not hard to debunk. At all. They've been proven.
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 06:59 PM by Zhade
In nearly every case, almost instantly.

Does she really think people are that stupid? Is she relying on the lazy media to not report on her lies?

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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:54 PM
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23. She should apologize and set the records tate about the hospital...
...It is really bad for a hospital to turn someone away who needs medical care. Hillary lied about the hospital, saying they had done just that thing, resulting in the deaths of a woman and her child.

She needs to apologize and set the record straight, just as prominently as she said the lies.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:02 PM
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2. A PAINFUL 'LIE'
April 6, 2008 -- Hillary Rodham Clinton "misspoke" again on the campaign trail - and a distraught Ohio family is furious about it.

Several times in recent months while talking about her plan for universal health care, Clinton told a tale of woe about a young pregnant woman who sought medical care at a local hospital and was turned away for lack of insurance - and both she and the baby died.

But the family of the 35-year-old woman - Trina Bachtel - says the story is simply not true.

"Trina had good insurance. She was a good girl, and she worked hard. That story made her look like she was a welfare bum," her 80-year-old grandmother May Mayle told The Post yesterday.

Mayle confirmed that Bachtel died last August from complications related to a late-pregnancy miscarriage, but said she was never turned away from a hospital.

"The family is real torn up about it. I can't understand why they'd make her out to look like she was so unstable," said Mayle.

As Clinton told the story during campaign rallies, the young, pregnant woman in difficulty was turned down for treatment because she was uninsured and couldn't pay $100 up front.

"Of course she would have had $100," fumed Mayle. "Her boyfriend's real angry about it, too, because he had good insurance. They were going to get married, but worked so hard they couldn't find the time."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04062008/news/nationalnews/a_painful_lie_105295.htm



Don't care for the source of the story, but it might have something to do with
it.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:07 PM
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3. K and R
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:22 PM
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5. Wow...
First time I had seen something from the family...

A shame that the fabrications and exaggerations end up negatively impacting the REAL people that her stories are supposed to be about.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:18 PM
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6. Just wow.
I would be pissed off too.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:19 PM
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7. You should make this an OP
If you are at the limit, I would be happy to.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:35 PM
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11. I would, but I do not like using the NY Post as a source on an OP
Unless, I can find other collaborating news sources. I think
it will soon though because it just hit the news and it is being noticed.
but be my guest!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:35 PM
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12. These people should speak out loud against Hillary.
She has offended them.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:03 PM
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14. Double damn.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:15 PM
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19. They were going to get married, but worked so hard they couldn't find the time....
Now that is just BS. I would know since I perform marriages and it is NOT that hard to get the five minutes to have one performed. The ceremony I do often takes three minutes. Two if I talk fast.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:41 PM
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21. some people like myself...
prefer to save up and have the wedding of their dreams. Have friends and family share in the day. Funny that you would find this important to the story though.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:33 AM
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32. It sounded fake. Still does.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:05 PM
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29. You do realize they may have had more elaborate plans?
Kind of low to talk about the dead's fiancee like that - as if you have ANY evidence his comments aren't true.

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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:32 AM
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31. Not in my opinion since I have a feeling the person said something much different.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:14 PM
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4. Re: OP Title: If you're talking about Hillary, then saying "without acknowledging the error"
is using unnecessary band-width.

Some things are a 'given'.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:34 PM
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10. More inconvenient truths... nt.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:05 PM
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15. K & R. Disgusting.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:09 PM
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16. The Clinton camp addressed this yesterday--they will not use the story:
A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

(snip)




More: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?bl&ex=1207627200&en=68723c5e35a1af24&ei=5087%0A
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:12 PM
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18. OP IS WRONG--SEE THIS:
A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

(snip)




More: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?bl&ex=1207627200&en=68723c5e35a1af24&ei=5087%0A
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:51 PM
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25. but, but, but VETTING is HRC's campaigns BIG THING!!1!!!
How could they miss this?

lmao

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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:53 PM
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22. ANOTHER way that she is like Bush Jr!...
...Like BUsh Jr, she very seldom acknowledges her mistake and apologize for it, unless she is forced to by the coverage of the sniper lie.

She needs to apologize to the hospital for her lies about them. It is very bad for a hospital to turn away someone who needs medical care, and she needs to set the record straight.

But I am betting, based on her previous actions, that she will.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:56 PM
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24. She never admits she's wrong
That is why she should not be president. ON an international level, she will not have the required trustworthiness to effectively represent our interests abroad.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:58 PM
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26. "no reason to doubt the story" - uh, clinton LIED about the mother being turned away.
They lie even when they drop the lie!

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:06 PM
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30. Too bad she used it yesterday despite that fact
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:35 AM
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33. Clinton, like most Americans, doesn't have it within her to admit error.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:44 PM
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34. .
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