Anyone Else Offended By This Photo Op?

[QueenOfCalifornia]

A little God damned respect please. Would you want to see any of the candidates sitting in the back seat of the limo where Kennedy was shot waiving and smiling?

[MadBadger]

1. I dont know if I'm offended, but her smile did seem quite odd.

[elehhhhna]

141. GW playbook. She's adopted all his tics and tactics.

[ooglymoogly]

283. The only way this picture works is when you realise she is shooting

herself in the foot.

[DavidDvorkin]

2. I do find it disturbing

But I'm an Obama supporter, so my opinion might be dismissed by some.

[helderheid]

81. Xeroxed

[Rosa Luxemburg]

191. she should be solemn

respect

[judasdisney]

215. s h e s h o u l d b e s o l e m n.

EXACTLY

What is happening to the Clintons?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

280. I don't know

[TexasObserver]

3. Yes, she's clueless, and the photo op with her smiling annoying.

Her inability to emote properly is what tags her as a seriously deficient human.

[DevonRex]

4. Creeped out, more like.

I'm offended that she and McCain did the photo op to begin with, since their sincerity is highly suspect. But the smiling, waving pose is definitely creepy. I mean, come ON. The man was shot right THERE.

[bigtree]

5. maybe the crowd shouldn't have cheered

anyone else ever wave and smile from there?

[EFerrari]

24. There goes the leadership argument. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

155. She's not a wind up monkey, even if the crowd did cheer, her job is to remain somber.

[appal_jack]

286. link & evidence please!

"She's not a wind up monkey..."

Got a link for that? My spidey-senses tell me otherwise...

-app

[Schema Thing]

6. That wave and smile is just awful

keep your events straight, Hillary.

[Cha]

49. Really..hilary was having a flashback to

when she was landing from the hilicopter in Iowa that went over so well.

[JayFredMuggs]

74. I don't remember that picture

Was she landing amidst sniper fire?

Oh wait, that was another landing, I'm confused.

[Cha]

76. hilary's confused and we don't need another confused

"president".

[krkaufman]

177. your pic is hilarious. n/t

[Hepburn]

255. ROFL!

That picture is great! :rofl:

[Ken Burch]

213. Actually, there could've BEEN sniper fire in Iowa, given her showing there.

n/t.

[Orsino]

7. Politicians smile and wave.

Right in the damned doorway is a little unfortunate, but that's just one photo, and doesn't mean that she was giggling throughout her visit.

[TexasObserver]

25. It is one of a series of photos, and she's grinning like an idiot in all of them.

And NO, politicians don't smile when they're in a circumstance that doesn't call for smiling.

Like most sociopaths, she doesn't know when to smile and when not to, because she lacks empathy.

[Orsino]

40. Politicians have to be able tor turn it on and off.

Smiling throughout sounds inappropriate. Is that really documented?

[TexasObserver]

42. there's a thread here somewhere that shows 4-5 photos, all smiling

I can't imagine why anyone would be smiling like that on such an occasion, but she was.

[Kittycat]

248. One was sitting next to the Rosa Parks statue on the bus.

Just disgusting...

She's like Weeeeeeeee, what's the next disney ride? in every f'n photo! Yes, please HRC, please continue to CELEBRATE the death of MLK, and make joking faces on a bus meant to symbolize the bravery of a single woman to not sit on the back of a bus, because of her skin color.

And in one of the other photos, she's walking down the stairs doing her signature, "You, yes, you" wave.

[hisownpetard]

276. She looks delighted, as if she just walked into a surprise party thrown just for her,

where someone's holding up a big ol' birthday cake...

I can't tell you how livid this picture makes me!

[Cha]

51. hilary's smiling and waving right where MLK

was shot proves she's down to only a few brain cells rattling around in that head of her's.

[ruggerson]

8. There was probably a crowd outside that cheered as she stepped out

pausing to acknowledge them with a wave is entirely appropriate.

This OP is a bit of a reach.

[Deja Q]

16. Excellent perspective, thank you.

I wish I had thought of that. :(

[hisownpetard]

38. Acknowledge them with a wave, yes. A big happy-faced smile, from the very place where

Dr. King was murdered? Absolutely not.
She evidently had no emotional connection to the events that happened there, or she would not have been able
to give a big birthday-party smile , standing where his blood was spilled.

I find it disgusting, even for a politician.

[JayFredMuggs]

114. Do you SMILE AND WAVE?...

Coming out of your father's funeral, if you were a politician?

Standing at the location where one of your political compatriots was murdered?

You really have to re-evaluate your manners, I would say.

[Hawkowl]

117. I doubt it

If you've ever seen a major politician get off an airplane or out of a car in person, and then watch them stop, turn, smile and wave to ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, you would not assume that she is addressing a crowd.

Other posters are right to point out the reactions of the actual PEOPLE in the photo's which do not have to be assumed. They are somber, if not outright grieving which points to the fact that HRC's actions are indeed inappropriate.

[BigTexBlue]

256. Hillary only smiles when the crowds are around

Last summer I worked for a while at an FBO at the Austin airport. Bill and Hillary came in for Lady Bird Johnson's funeral and Hillary did not wave at all. Security was pretty tight and I was one of 3 people that the secret service allowed on the plane. With no crowds or reporters around Hillary was quite unpleasant. No smile, no wave. The only thing I heard from her was when she told a secret service agent to get her purse. Otherwise she didn't even speak. I had a nice 10 minute chat with Bill and wished we could ditch his wife find a party somewhere. I guess that's what he's known for.

[Joe the Revelator]

157. Is she a robot? Is she physically incapable of not smiling if people cheer?

Her job was to remain somber and respect the scared space she was standing.

[TLM]

202. No it isn't appropriate...

There could have been thousands of cheering fans and it still would have been crass and disturbing to smile and wave standing on the spot where MLK was murdered.


Not a time nor place for celebration.

At least get off the fucking balcony before mugging for the cameras.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

288. Your sig line say a lot

I suppose you agree with Hillary, Fox is the fairest of the fair?

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

9. Like a great deal of her campaign:

In poor taste.

[Upton]

10. She doesn't know the meaning of the word respect

[hisownpetard]

33. Bingo! It shows, in so many ways...

[montanacowboy]

11. She's an opportunist

this type of stuff will backfire - I can hardly stand to look at her anymore - her and her husband have proven they will say and do anything to obtain power

[mod mom]

239. Just a photo op to HRC.

:mad:

[Whisp]

I'm not really offended - it's just Hillary being the callous asshole she is. nt

[anamandujano]

86. At least she showed up.

[JayFredMuggs]

115. She "showed up"?? "SHOWED UP"?

At the location of a racist murder?

What does THAT mean???? "At least she showed up!" Like this is some sort of debate? Some sort of Academy Awards?

Are your brain cells thinking, or is everything in this world a photo opportunity for your candidate?

[anamandujano]

143. Hello! Most black dignitaries were there. Word's out that Jesse Jackson was pissed

That Obama didn't participate.

Do some homework dodo.

[Joe the Revelator]

158. Link on the JJ comment....

[JBoy]

176. "Word's out"? Is that the word on the street?

Who are you, Huggy Bear?

[greguganus]

241. Link on Jackson? n/t

[greguganus]

242. No link? Then you are a liar, just like your Queen. n/t

[catgirl]

267. LOL. "word's out"

Obama honored MLK. He didn't do a photo op where he was murdered.

[EnemyOfTheocracy]

268. OMG

take your candidate to the other side of the isle.
she is a republican and deserves to be among them.
joe is needing an "independant" like hillary to run with in case Mcsame don't pick him btw.
Shrillary Clintoon would be perfect for a mcsame "unity" ticket.
think about it.
they have same policies and votes on many issues.
2 peas in a pod.

[TLM]

204. Hillary's supporters can't defend her actions...

So they have to attack obama, because it is all they can do.


There is no excuse for Hillary's behavior.



Obama seems to have the good sense to stand back and let Hillary destroy herself.

[Cirque du So-What]

12. At the very least

I'd call smiling and waving in that setting 'inappropriate affect.'
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/path/inappropriateaffect.htm

[goclark]

30. Thanks for the excellent link

[DemVet]

13. Shit, you would have been offended...

...had she NOT been there and smiling.

Trivia - who was the ONLY remaining POTUS candidate not in Memphis for the commemoration?

Clue - it wasn't the repub candidate.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

19. No...

I would not have been offended had she been there showing some respect.

It is a solemn place. It is not the teacup ride at fucking Disneyland.

[ruggerson]

22. You can't show respect and pause to acknowledge supporters at the same time?

Methinks you simply despise Senator Clinton, and this is just an opportunity to (pointlessly) rage at her.

[goclark]

27. There is such a thing as a bow but a campaign wave

IMO was not appropriate.

[asjr]

34. Badmouthing Clinton always attracts other

badmouthers. Maybe it makes them feel superior.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

73. If Hillary had,

as I pointed out, been sitting in the same spot where JFK had been killed and she had smiled and waived at her supporters - are you saying it would not have been offensive?

If she had done that, would you still accuse me of badmouthing her? Or would you see it as simply observing a person who is telling the world they are the person to take over as commander in chief and having an opinion?

[QueenOfCalifornia]

68. Thanks for

setting me straight.

I wonder... What will it take to make any one of the numerous supporters of Clinton to see beyond the façade?

If you call what I said "rage" then you do not know true rage. I simply am offended by what I see as her inability to understand the importance of the place.

I could site lots of other things she has done or said that are worse - but then... You already know about them.

[cornermouse]

71. Wow.

Do you see that? She wore red. I don't think it's appropriate for her to wear anything but black to that site, do you? She smiled and you attacked her for that. If she'd teared up a little you'd have attacked her and said it was fake. If she'd kept a straight face without smile or frown your attack would have consisted of accusing her of being disconnected and unaffected by the site and occasion.

P.s. Don't forget to add that you don't need Hillary's supporters which is approximately half of the democratic party.

[JayFredMuggs]

120. Great response

Imagine, if you folks will, for a moment...

Hillary goes to the Ford Theatre on the anniversary of Lincoln's shooting there.

She sits in the box where he was shot.

Does she wave and smile in that theatre box?

I think Hillary supporters simply don't get it yet!

[rodeodance]

112. Yes, I agree. She isn't much that does not outrage most BO fans!

[JayFredMuggs]

121. Perhaps she thinks she is really in Disneyland

Where everyone is happy when remembering anything from the past.

Happy Happy Happy!

[proud2BlibKansan]

169. It just shows she lives in la la land

Completely out of touch with reality.

[Barack_America]

90. self-delete.

wrong spot.

[proud2BlibKansan]

210. Who was the only candidate who showed Dr King the respect he deserves

by not using Memphis for a photo op on the anniversary of his death?

Clue - it wasn't the repub or Bill Clinton's wife.

[AngryOldDem]

244. Oh bullshit.

There's nothing wrong with her being there, paying her respect to MLK. But she does not have to look as though she's just gotten off a ride at fucking Disney World.

[EnemyOfTheocracy]

269. the question is sincerity

which she has none.
for her it was a pandering photo op.
look at the smile.
you would think she was at disney land.
BTW the republicans just called they want hillary back in the fold.
she needs to return to it.
she is no longer welcome in the party of jefferson.

[Deja Q]

14. No, but she'd otherwise look like Florence Henderson if it wasn't for lack of bottle of cooking oil

I know people do inappropriate things, but that's just bizarre. Even I recognize the location surrounding her; it's where MLK Jr was assassinated.

[yurbud]

15. I don't think anyone left of Ann Coulter should stand there without full body armor

[Schema Thing]

28. lol!

[graywarrior]

17. Insensitive, to say the least.

Can't say too much or I'll get flayed.

[speedoo]

18. For Hillary this is just another campaign stunt.

That seems rather obvious from her behavior.

[crankychatter]

20. Stressed Sociopath fails to even FAKE appropriate emotions

it's the most appalling item yet... bar none

[NEDem]

21. The fact that candidates actually went to the motel is bad enough

The smile and wave is really too much. Very disrespectful

[Cha]

54. I know, huh? Absofuckinglutely

stupid. If it were my father who was Assassinated there I would tell them how inappropriate I think that is since they don't have a fucking clue on their own.

No wonder Obama didn't follow the herd..his instincts are far superior to mccain and hilary(who only last night was lying about her "speaking out against the War ON Iraq BEFORE Obama"! What a lying shilary she is.

[Whisp]

93. agreed. they were there to suck juice for themselves

and not pay any genuine homage to MLK.

Barack handled it in the proper way while those two pathetics were dancing for the limelight on hallowed ground.

[JayFredMuggs]

122. Actually, I'm going to say this, John McCain had a reason and a purpose to go

He actually admitted he made a mistake in judgement by not being on board for honoring this great American before hand. He actually was honest, (something I wish Hillary would be).

John McCain did us all a favor being honest. Hillary, not so much with the smile and the wave and the "I shook his hand" speech.

[NEDem]

126. I'll agree with you on that

Although, there is something inherently tacky about using the site of an assassination site as the place for his mea culpa.

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. The thing is nobody else is smiling and most have sober faces

I do expect that the crowd waved at her and she reacted without thinking.

I think going up to the balcony and touring the room was in poor form.

[jean627]

26. It reminds me of Laura Bush.

They had a memorial at the Pentagon after 9/11.

Everyone was serious and grim faced, even George.
Laura walked in with that huge plastic smile as if
she were going to a party.

Some people just have no sense of compassion for anyone nor anything. IMO, Hillary and Laura are are the epitome of that kind of person.

[TLM]

205. I'm hardly one to defend the bushes....

but laura's smile is clearly permanent... there's nothing she can do about it short of sand blasting.

She's like the joker.

[hisownpetard]

29. OMFG!! That's as bad as Cheney in his hooded parka and boots at Auschwitz.

Maybe even worse.

Where the hell is her sense of decorum?

Tell me - does her carefree wave-&-smile demeanor at the place of King's murder make you inclined to believe
her choked-up memories of the day he was killed, and the little tear in her voice while the cameras were rolling?

Please. Hand me the barf bag...

[Faygo Kid]

69. Bingo. Good analogy.

Just another campaign stop for Hillary, apparently.

[hisownpetard]

77. Thanks for posting that! (I don't know how, or I would've myself).

What a f***in' asshole he was/is.

Same reaction I got when I saw that picture of a smiling Hillary, standing on the spot where Dr. King was cut down.

Cookies, anyone?!

[Faygo Kid]

89. Here's how

Right click on the picture, then go to properties. Copy the link, and paste the link here. Unless the photo is somehow protected, you can have fun all day long.

Enjoy!

[hisownpetard]

96. Testing, testing, 1..2..3..

You mean, like this?
http://www.blognetnews.com/michigan/feed.php?channel=21&y=2007&m=05&d=10

[Faygo Kid]

99. Not quite.

All that came up was the link. Try right clicking on an individual picture, not a whole site. You can practice by right clicking on any photo already posted on DU, then go to properties, then copy the link and paste it. You'll get there, and soon will amaze your friends with your important new skill!

[hisownpetard]

101. Thanks for trying. Aside from the fact that I'm cyber-stymied, I also have a Mac,

so I don't even know what "right-clicking" is. But I'll keep at it.
:toast:

[Faygo Kid]

103. Right-clicking means clicking the right side button on your mouse.

You can do it.

By the way, I was born and raised in Michigan, and expect to retire there in a few years - Traverse City area, I hope.

[Berry Cool]

106. Actually, no, a person using a Mac can't do it

unless they get a Mac two-button mouse. But that is not the normal Mac mouse.

However, dragging-and-dropping is much easier than right-clicking.

[Berry Cool]

108. You don't need to right-click. Just drag and drop.

1. Open a new browser window.

2. Put your mouse on the picture, hold the mouse button down and drag the image to the new window. Release the mouse button.

3. To save the image, bookmark the URL that appears for it in the new window.

Now, to post that image, just find it in your bookmarks and drag-and-drop it, or copy and paste the URL for it. Voila.

[hisownpetard]

140. Thank you all for the info. I *do* love my Mac, but have zero understanding of computer language.

SO, even though you've all been so helpful, I'll first have to find out how to 'bookmark' something and what a URL is.
(You see? I mean, REALLY cyber-stymied).

I will play around with all these suggestions, though, and report back if I have any success...

:hi: :shrug: :hi:

[MagickMuffin]

116. For Mac's

Click on pic while holding down the ctrl key. It will have a pop up with several options.

Have fun:hi:

[eppur_se_muova]

128. Or the shift key, or the command/apple key ... ain't Macs fun?

"Right-click" my ass! :D

[MagickMuffin]

136. Those options don't work for me.... Only the ctrl works for the pop up menus

Are you using a mouse?.?.?

I have a G4 laptop among other Macs, however, my laptop is my main source of computing. I use the keybroad and a Wacom tablet.

Using my Wacom tablet the pen is set for the controls on the back of the rocker button to access the pop up menus.

And yes, Macs are FUN.

[eppur_se_muova]

148. Using a trackpad on a G3 iBook.

It's probably a function of the browser -- I'm still using the old, now unsupported Netscape.

[DangerousRhythm]

224. Control-click...

...is the equivalent of "right-clicking" on a Mac, whether or not you have a one or two button mouse. Just hit your control button as you click and you'll see a menu pop up with "Properties" or if you're using Firefox, you can choose to "Copy Link Location" or "Copy Image Location". :)

[99th_Monkey]

214. "This blog has been archived or suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service."

scrubbed it was.

[BigTexBlue]

262. I've gotta test this too

Squeal like a pig

[hisownpetard]

271. So - did it work for you?

[blonndee]

31. Look at the two gentlemen on the left.

Then look back at Clinton. Then look back at the two men again.

I won't bash her for this--I don't know what was going on below the balcony. But the apparent mood captured in this one second doesn't seem to gibe with that of the other visitors.

[Endangered Specie]

32. Oh brother, and you accuse Clinton of generating fake outrage

:eyes:

[JayFredMuggs]

124. Except that ours is REAL......try to catch up !

[BlueIdaho]

35. Ok Flame me...

I am a HUGE Obama supporter but I gotta be honest - these photos don't offend me. No one said sack cloth and ashes were required to visit this very tragic place. I've looked carefully at all the HRC photos posted in other threads and I see someone trying to be respectful of the history that is represented there. Photos are funny things, they ONLY represent something like 1/250th of a second of reality. Snap the photo a second earlier or later and you capture a different mood - and story.

Now, I have MAJOR reasons I don't think HRC will be as good a president as Obama but folks, this ain't it.

Flame me if you must.

[stevenleser]

57. I'm with you. We dont really know what happened here or with any of the other photos from this event

I have other issues with HRC that are more than enough.

[loyalsister]

85. I agree

I think it was unfortunate candidate placement. It would unfortunately inevitably cheapen their (Hillary's and McCain's) observation of an important memorial because this photo (or any other such happening) was bound to happen.

[LaurenG]

36. I'm starting to feel sorry for her

even with all of her big stories. I don't know what is she supposed to do, someone had her tour the balcony. Maybe she shouldn't smile at an event so solemn.

I'm starting to feel bad reading about every breath she takes and then judged through a harshly critical eye.

[OzarkDem]

37. So why does the AA community have the site open?

Why do they encourage elected officials to come and pay tribute on that day?

This is a question you need to ask them.

[bicentennial_baby]

39. It's a museum

[Ichingcarpenter]

66. Its 'The National Civil Rights Museum'

Not too far from the Ozarks I hear.


http://www.civilrightsmuseum.org/about/about.asp

[cornermouse]

97. Speaking of museums...

How many of you dedicated Obama followers have ever gone here?

http://www.nps.gov/gwca/

Not as glitzy as the one in Austin. Probably a more accurate portrait of his life though. BTW, Memphis isn't all that close to the Ozarks.

[proud2BlibKansan]

167. I have been there

It's a wonderful place. So is Laura Ingalls Wilder's farm, not far from there. :hi:

[cornermouse]

173. I haven't made it to the Ingalls Wilder Museum yet.

The Carver museum was really really nice. I had to pretty much drag my granddaughter out of there. She didn't even realize she was learning. lol. :hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

180. Go to Laura's farm

We spent a whole day there. It is where she wrote all of her books. And it is exactly as it was when she lived there. I just loved it. But I am a HUGE Laura Ingalls Wilder fan. I have been to most of her homes.

[amk]

47. So it's AA community's fault. Typical Clintonista

Way to go. Your boss sure does know how to "win" over the loyal AA community and I am sure she picks her lessons from people like you.

[Bensthename]

41. No problem at all... Are you suggesting she is happy MLK was shot??

[starroute]

45. No, the OP is suggesting she only saw it as a photo op

And didn't think about the meaning of it at all.

[Arugula Latte]

43. Okay. That's just weird.

Bad choice, once again.

[Evergreen Emerald]

44. I just have to laugh

ANYTHING to attack Clinton with. Had she been upset, of course you would all be peeing your pants and the outrage of her pretending to be upset.

You have all lost it.

[Awsi Dooger]

61. This is probably the new low

A video would be one thing, if she cackled throughout and appeared disinterested in the significance of the site. But one photo is undoubtedly what ruggerson proposed upthread, a typical reaction to waving/shouting fans. I was going to post that, until noticing ruggerson beat me to it.

Maybe the cheering fans were Obama hacks, intentionally trying to make Hillary react at that specific time, their cameras ready to capture the indecency. That's an insane stretch, so it fits perfectly in this forum right now.

Meanwhile, the other day we had a report that Obama was aloof and arrogant and dismissive, when talking to John and Elizabeth Edwards a day or two after Edwards bowed out. And that Hillary was concerned and thorough in the same scenario with the Edwards'. Perhaps it's unconfirmed but I have faith it was the basic truth, and will be verified later, probably after the campaign. I'm exponentially more worried about that aspect -- is Obama really who we think he is? -- not whether Hillary is awkward and somewhat ruthless.

[Binka]

184. You Have To Laugh?

Not only do you need Jenny Craig and to lose about 50 pounds you need a shrink. Get on it now EE. There is hope for your fat ass.

[NOLALady]

46. Somehow

Golgatha and Good Friday comes to mind.

[Cha]

48. hilary's a fucking idiot..

Is this the side of her mouth where she's pandering to Black people?

It's like a cheap photo op that bush would do.

[Name removed]

88. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[4_Legs_Good]

50. Geesh, that's awful.

I absolutely agree. I could see her at the site if she was proposing a new investigation into the murder, but other than that, it's just creepy and in bad taste, I think.

David

[Eric Condon]

52. Now, had it been where LBJ died, she would've been more respectful,

because it took an experienced politician like LBJ to REALLY get anything done in the Civil Rights Movement. Right? :sarcasm:

[JayFredMuggs]

127. Or driving down that street in Dallas.....yeah, wave and smile, Hillary!

[easy_b94]

53. I posted this pic on another board which is 99% black and lets just say...

They was not to please :(

[Cha]

58. I can imagine...'cause I'm

not and I'm Irish.

[Diane R]

55. I cringed when I first saw it, too. Completely tone-deaf.

[proud2BlibKansan]

56. Well as you know, Gilligan, I sent this pic in an email to my friends

Some are Obama supporters, some are Hillary supporters and some are not politically active at all. And I have yet to hear back from one who isn't grossly offended by this. It speaks volumes about Hillary's arrogance and narcissism. Here is one of the comments I received:

I wouldn't consider it overreacting, just appropriate, to go throw her ass over the railing. What she did? I consider it sacrilegious; phenomenally pompous and so damn WRONG.

This is yet another individual incident/action that by itself warrants losing the vote of a supporter. Repeatedly LYING, not "misspeaking", about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia after she opposed intervening to stop the ethnic cleansing, which is actually SLAUGHTER.

Just looking at this picture of her standing right THERE, where she should never be?! And then SMILING and WAVING?!?! While standing THERE?!?!?!?! This would make me change my mind if I was gonna vote for her, all by itself. How in the hell can folks still support her and claim she has ANY honor, dignity, credibility, or really gives a damn about anybody except herself?!?! ARGH

[anamandujano]

102. You may have noticed they are filing people through the spot.

There is some one in front of her, and someone in back.

As far as the snapshot goes, it's traditional in most solemn events, funerals and such, to cry it all out and then turn to the happy.

Again, your arrogant, aloof, can't-share-the-spotlight with anyone candidate was off doing his thing. He will only go where he is the center of attention.

[psychmommy]

113. this wasn't a homegoing service.

this was a 40 year anniversary of a great loss to an undeserving nation. not some stop on her primary tour. show some respect or don't be there at all. did you notice that no one cares that you keep saying obama didn't go. it wasn't about him you are correct. why take the focus off of dr king and his accomplishments because you're running for office? this was a memorial for him-not pander central for desperate dems and repubs.

[proud2BlibKansan]

145. Hillary turned it into a photo op

:puke:

[anamandujano]

147. Photographers were there and took pictures of her, duh.

[anamandujano]

146. Jesse Jackson cared that Obama didn't go. Obama would not have

taken the focus off King. The focus would have been off his megalomaniacal @ss. He did not care for that aspect.

See post #98 for the other photos.

[psychmommy]

151. jesse jackson is entitled to his opinion.

it was a commemoration of dr king-his life, his death and his legacy. not about hill or mcsame. what do we see a pic of hill being inappropriate. mcsame getting booed. instead of hearing about dr king where the focus belongs. like you really care what jesse thinks-nice straw man.

[cornermouse]

152. Jesse Jackson wasn't the only person interviewed on tv who was

offended that Obama didn't show up. I don't know what his name is, but he was unhappy with Obama as well.

[ExPatLeftist]

221. Sums it up: "can't-share-the-spotlight with anyone candidate"

What you don't seem to get is that this is exactly why Obama was not there - it is not the time for "spotlights", shared or otherwise. I think that his staying away from this morbid campaign stop speaks volumes - HE did not want ANY spotlight, he understands that this day was about remembering a great man and a tragically historic occurrence, not about getting some "spotlight" and "camera time". This was not about Obama or Clinton or McCain, it was about one of the greatest men the US has ever known and our tragic loss of him.

His was a classy and respectful move, which some here seem to simply not get. Including the person pictured in the OP.

[Yael]

282. "turn to the happy"

:wtf:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

131. Hello....

You left some comments out but not anyone, not the Hillary supporters - no one in the list that you emailed the pic to tried to apologize since it is/was an obvious faux pas.

Look - when she went all crazy over Fox News - saying it is the fairest of the fair I stopped in my tracks.

That is when Hillary truly JUMPED THE SHARK.

BTW, I do NOT hate Hillary. I give her credit when it is due. Should she get a thumbs up on this? Or as many have suggested, ignore it since it is not important?

I think the picture is a statement in and of itself and deserves some reflection.

[Yael]

59. Offended doesn't even begin to describe my reaction to that photo

While I keep saying that nothing she does will surprise me any more, when I saw that yesterday, I just shrunk in my chair and stared in utter disbelief.

A person would have to be completely psychotic to stand where this man lost his life and think that it would be appropriate to make it all about them in that way.

She could have greeted supporters with a LOT more dignity.

[Seabiscuit]

60. You do know that the Lorraine hotel is now a National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis.

Clinton like thousands of others in the past few days have come to see the exhibit and pay their respects. She mostly likely was waving at supporters who were calling out to her .. so what? Bad photo taken by a photographer YES, bad intent on Hillary's part NO. I think you know that sometimes photos of presidential candidates are not what they seem. I don't see this as a big deal.

A little about the National Civil Rights Museum:

http://www.civilrightsmuseum.org/about/about.asp

Thousands Are Drawn To Memphis to Honor King

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/04/AR2008040403446.html?hpid=topnews

Throughout the day visitors lined up in the rain outside the museum, standing with a clear view of the balcony in front of Room 306, where King was shot. The place is frozen in time -- a 1960s-era motel with blue-green doors and metal railings identical to those seen in black-and-white photos of King's aides standing over his limp body.

Presidential candidates Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) also paid their respects, while Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) praised King while campaigning in Indiana (Story, A4). Many of King's contemporaries, including Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) and the Rev. Jesse Jackson, were on hand, as were family members of the sanitation workers who invited King to Memphis in 1968 to support their strike.

[against all enemies]

62. Not a Hillary fan but what if some one yelled "Hillary we love you?"

Of course she would smile and wave.. Jesus Christ, can every one just relax.

[proud2BlibKansan]

168. I really can't imagine anyone doing that in that place

I have been there. It is a somber place. I cannot imagine anyone yelling "Hillary we love you". Can you imagine anyone doing that at the Vietnam Wall?

[Kablooie]

63. It says, "Look at ME! See how I honor MLK! This makes me a wonderful candidate!"

And that's all. It's about HER, not MLK.

[anamandujano]

104. What about the guy who was campaigning instead of paying his respects?

[Quixote1818]

154. He did pay his respects. nt

[ExPatLeftist]

222. What he did was way more respectful than the photo op shown above...

He stayed away out of respect. He wanted the day to be about MLK, not BHO. He did not want to make a campaign stop out of something that is deeply meaningful to him. I respect that. A helluva lot more than I respect the action depicted in the OP photo.

BTW "The guy who was campaigning instead of paying his respects"... Please tell me that you are aware that both Hillary and McCain WERE campaigning as well...?

[tabasco]

64. If a decent person were visiting there to contemplate and remember the tragedy,

it would be impossible to smile and laugh.

It was just another photo-op for Hillary.

[Evergreen Emerald]

67. Right...and yet when she was upset about MLK you all made fun of her

she cannot win. and you guys will take anyting out of context to attack Clinton. You have jumped the shark on this one.

My god. The mob mentality has taken over.

[tabasco]

78. Hillary is a total phony. Her speech was clearly a bad acting performance..

Her behavior at the murder site just reinforces her lack of sincerity.

What part of that are you missing? People know a phony when they see one.

You simply refuse to see around your blinders.

[Evergreen Emerald]

87. Yes. I know. She is a phony when she is happy and a phony when she is sad

You are taken-in by someone who talks pretty. The proof is in the actions. Clinton's actions have proven her to be a caring concerned Senator who votes her conscience and gives generously to charity. She is not a phony. You are just taking the easy way--nod in lemming like fashion and throw stones.

Obama is ALL talk and no action.

[tabasco]

129. Was she happy or sad when she was dodging the sniper fire?

[Stephanie]

190. Hillary thinks we are stupid

She proves this time and again - she thinks we are stupid and we can't see through her BS.

[ExPatLeftist]

223. Individuals, not "YOU GUYS"

It might be easy and comfortable for you to lump everything together that every Obama supporter you have ever known has said and then try to collectively attribute all of those comment to the entire group. Easy yes. Mature or true, NO.

Please let us avoid the "us and them" mentality that defines the ignorance of the Bushies. If someONE said something, then they own it. I am not going to be bashed about everything that every supposed Obama supporter has said, and I will afford the same respect to everyone here.

This is not just an ignorant attitude, it is DANGEROUS.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

65. Offended? No...

But I think given the moment and the place, a big smile and wave was, well, let's just call it "incongruous" and leave it at that.

[DerekJ]

70. Y'all know I love you, but this thread ranks up there with sweetie-gate

a stupid non-issue.

[JayFredMuggs]

72. That's the picture that stood out for me, too!

Like the Queen of England visiting the gravesite of Dianna or something.

Very opportunistic. Very inappropriate emotion and affect.

Does that woman have any idea how this would look to people who loved MLK?

[druidity33]

75. barely out the door

and she's already smiling and waving. I'm sorry but even if there are screaming fans there calling her name... the place demands a respectful nod and a wave. Not a plastick grin. Ugh. How could she not see that the occasion demanded a somber tone?

Like Obama said, this is drawing attention away from the legacy of Dr King. All of the candidates should have made their own statements and they should have all avoided the "spectacle" this has become.

I gotta ask it... how would Dr King feel about all this?

:shrug:

[anamandujano]

107. Did he really say that?

Like Obama said, this is drawing attention away from the legacy of Dr King. All of the candidates should have made their own statements and they should have all avoided the "spectacle" this has become.

So, the leading authority on all things racial has spoken out about why he chose to campaign instead of stopping for the day and being part of a gathering, not the center of attention that he is becoming too used to.

Well, that settles it then. He has shown us the way.

[TLM]

207. Your attempts to attack obama....

would be comically ineffectual to the point of hilarity were the circumstances of this thread not already so disgusting thanks to Hillary's crass opportunistic photo op.


"he chose to campaign"

Hillary and Obama were both campaigning that day... the difference is that Obama didn't laugh and smile on the fucking spot where MLK was murdered while he was campaigning. Obama had the respect not to turn the MLK memorial into a circus-like campaign event... and for that I applaud him. No amount of spin will deflect focus from hillary's indefensible behavior.

[last1standing]

79. I'm not offended but it is politically tone-deaf.

Clinton just keeps making this kind of mistake and that worries me about what would happen in the GE.

[FlyingTiger]

80. I'm not big on Hillary, but this is a bit over the top.

I mean, it's a capture of a single moment in this whole visit. If your picture was constantly being taken throughout the day, I'm pretty damn sure you would be seen smiling during a few seconds of otherwise somber moments for completely legitimate reasons.

[City Lights]

82. She's pulled a George Bush right there.

And if Bush had been the one smiling and waving in the photo above, most or all of DU would have been all over him for it.

I won't claim to know what she feels in her heart about the event, but some of the photos I've seen make it look like it was just another pandering photo-op to her. And that's unfortunate.

[buff2]

83. That happened forty years ago

had she been crying in a kleenex you haters would be all over her for "faking a cry". The woman can't do anything right when it comes to the Obama thugs. You and the rest of his sheep are disgracful. You have no shame.Why don't you get a fucking life? :grr:

[ksoze]

84. Where were the photos of Obama there?

was he frowning, smiling, stoic or just not even there.

[NEDem]

100. He had enough sense not to go.

Or maybe it really wasn't enough sense, more like respect.

[undeterred]

91. Why would she even go there?

[Barack_America]

92. She only tears up when recollecting her own feelings...

That's what I've observed.

In New Hampshire, it was about how campaigning made her feel...
In Connecticut, it was during a tribute to her...
Now, in Memphis, it was recollecting how she felt when King died...

Yet, when she stands in the very spot where his life was snuffed out, it's all smiles and waves...

And, yes, that doesn't sit well with me.

[MonkeyFunk]

No

a lot of Obama supporters are pretending to be outraged. Nothing new.

[MonkeyFunk]

94. No

a lot of Obama supporters are pretending to be outraged. Nothing new.

[Willo]

95. I don't like the smiling, but it's not Hillary's fault.

I don't like the media and politicians involved in any solemn event. Only appear as individiuals if they personally feel a need to be there.

Politicians are damned if they do and if they don't. When they do, they have to perform throughout the whole ceremony. It's just silly.

It's like when the media solemnly reports a family died in a fire. Then smiles and says the weather will be sunny tomorrow.
Both reactions are appropriate to the story but one seems false because of the other.

[ksoze]

98. At least she was there (the other pictures)

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/40th+Anniversary+MLK+Assassination+Remembered+npB38_gP_bQl.jpg

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/40th+Anniversary+MLK+Assassination+Remembered+z7S7HtIclS9l.jpg


Who she was waving to from the balcony:


http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/40th+Anniversary+MLK+Assassination+Remembered+kg15NiZ6WTSl.jpg

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/40th+Anniversary+MLK+Assassination+Remembered+MS30_hSm9fsl.jpg

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/40th+Anniversary+MLK+Assassination+Remembered+G3W3IHcP2ahl.jpg

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/40th+Anniversary+MLK+Assassination+Remembered+EBSZP82pQx0l.jpg

[anamandujano]

105. Thanks for the pics. Of course the OP had no idea they even existed.

[midnight]

111. It's hard to find much of anything positive about that place.

But the museum was created and the hotel preserved to have people come and walk through. Maybe someone shouted out that they loved Hillary, and the only response was a smile. I don't know, but she appears to be respectful in the photos, and that is the important thing.

[Orsino]

171. Thank you. I didn't think she is as much of an idiot as that one picture makes her look. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

172. You forgot this one

Here she is remembering how much fun that bus boycott was!

[Stephanie]

199. Yep. They are all equally offensive.

She had no business exploiting a solemn occasion for her campaign. It is offensive. Period.

[shagsak]

246. wow

nothing wrong with smiling next to Rosa.

[TheDonkey]

109. It is innappropriate.

No one else is beaming and skipping around that sad place. I do not know why she is doing it. Like she just came on to stage to greet her fans but she must have been seen going into the motel room before exiting so it doesn't make sense.

[Warren DeMontague]

110. No, I think it's easy to take a photo like that out of context. I'm more offended by her IWR vote,

her utter inability to acknowledge that it was a mistake, her low-road, cheap campaign tactics, etc.

That said, I'm not going to slam her for paying respect to the anniversary of MLK's death.

[HuffleClaw]

118. if she wasn't smiling and waving some people would find THAT offensive

one of these days something of actual substance will come to light that will constitute a real scandal. until then i guess we have little else but manufactured outrage to entertain us.

[Buzz Clik]

119. I didn't like it. I'm glad Obama stayed away.

[dkf]

123. I guess its like going to the Arizona memorial, or the Vietnam Wall or the World Trade Center

and smiling and waving.

I don't know.

Personally, when I went to the Vietnam Memorial, there were no smiles in me.

[SoxFan]

161. I've been to the Lorraine Motel

As well as the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the WTC site, and the OKC bombing site before it was redeveloped into a memorial park.

I don't remember smiling at any of them.

In fact, I was emotionally drained, especially in Oklahoma City.

[jefferson_dem]

125. She's wearing that painted-on "Joker Smile" again.

Sorry. But that just ain't right.

[Why Syzygy]

130. She's on effin VACATION!

As already stated, she is a freak. (sociopath, inability to emote, monster-ish)

[walkingdude]

132. Hillary attacks

My God, no matter what Hillary does, you people on this blog attack her like hungry sharks.  I do not need this shit.  I always prided liberals and democrats as open minded and thoughtful people.  I see no evidence of that on this forum and I am done with it.  I certainly hope that all of you who worship at the feet of Obama will not be bitterly disappointed if he does get elected, but I suspect that you will.  The people of Germany were enthralled with Adolph too. 

[JayFredMuggs]

133. Yeah, we're all saluting and goose-stepping!

You folks that can't catch the subtlety of those images,

You folks that take offense at every criticism of Hillary, as if we are criticizing you..

I'm really sorry you have no ego structure, no sense of boundaries, and no respect for fellow Dems.

Really Really sorry.

[Jed Dilligan]

134. Good post.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

138. You do know

That what you posted sounds a little, just a little... INSANE.

It is an observation of a person who wants to lead the country.

Just an observation.

Bye.

:hi:

[NEDem]

149. 5 total posts and you are already fed up?

yeah. ok.....

[proud2BlibKansan]

165. 5 posts and you're done?

:rofl:

Hope you enjoyed your stay. :hi:

[JBoy]

178. LOL! He's got the stamina of Fred Thompson.

[proud2BlibKansan]

179. LOL!!

Probably IS Fred Thompson. :rofl:

[Name removed]

186. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Bonobo]

135. No, but it validates my opinion.

[Mezzo]

137. Clearly Hillary did not take this picture, so THANK GOD you can't blame her for it. nt

[helderheid]

139. I showed this to my mom - just the photo, nothing else.

"Why is she smiling and waving? Who does she think she is?"

[GoldieAZ49]

142. nope, not at all

Is the back seat of that limo rented out like the hotel room is? I think not.

a public hotel, sheesh, you can't make this stuff up fast enough.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

166. Uh-

The hotel is a museum now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_Motel It is not a hotel room - It is a solemn place that is supposed to cause reflection... But then being from the state where the voters did not want to honor MLK in the first place, it is not a surprise.

Who is making anything up?

Do you think I rented a Hillary look-alike and took the photos myself?

[bridgit]

287. disingenuous, you ask if the photo offends people then are offended yourself when they say, "nope"

I've seen pics of smiling people in the funerary entrails of the Pyramid Cheops. Maybe not slap happy giddy like HRC here. I'll give you that. But the OP q seems a bit off if that's the case. If you were trying to illicit a different response which I think you have by & large. So much so that you could have afforded to let a couple go by the wayside imo :)

[bigwillq]

144. I am assuming there was a crowd

If there was, then I think it is ok for her to acknowledge them.

If there was no crowd and Clinton is just waving then I think it's a bit odd.

[proud2BlibKansan]

208. Waving isn't what is offensive

It's that damn smile. And it is on her face in a lot of the pictures taken that day, not just this one.

[bigwillq]

289. That's how she smiles.

It's not a federal crime.

[dana_b]

150. When I heard Obama wasn't there, I thought "good". He didn't turn this important day into an

opportuniy to campaign and make it about himself.

[Catherine Vincent]

153. Faux Outrage #997 by Obama supporters. nt

[IndianaGreen]

156. Since she lied about being upset and throwing her bookbag on the bed

when she heard MLK was shot, it would seem reasonable that she would be acting like a tourist.

[NoodleyAppendage]

159. This and the acting job she gave talking about the MLK assassination day prove a point...

...the Clintons only care about African-Americans to gain their confidence and votes. Otherwise, they couldn't give a rat's ass.

[emilyg]

160. Not offended.

[southerncrone]

162. Yes, this is disgusting. If she were solemn, that would be different...

but she's F*ing campaigning!

Shows lack of good judgment.

[FreepFryer]

163. Wow. Just wow. (n/t)

[Danger Mouse]

164. i don't know...it does seem out of place, but would it be polite to like, not smile while you wave?

uhm, a sort of frowning wave?
i'm such an ogre, i have no concept of polite and impolite, really, but that does seem kind of tasteless...
but meh, i have a hard time seeing this as being a big deal...just...kinda tacky.

[Sparkle]

170. Are you offended by the black woman smiling?

Wait, let me guess. She's not running for President. :eyes:

[nichomachus]

181. Well, I won't vote for the black woman either.

[grantcart]

197. I saw her on CNN's report about the Museum. She is the onsite director and

she talked about everything in the museum so matter of factly and without any emotion that it kind of startled me. Then I realized that she has been facing it on a daily basis for a decade and remembered how matter of fact I eventually became of refugee camps after seeing them for years and how it would have an effect on people the first time they saw them.

[Tribetime]

174. I couldn't smile there

[mindfulNJ]

175. good grief

How very innappropriate.

[walldude]

182. I have been trying to lay off of the candidates lately

and I won't go ballistic about this but it sure seems like a poor choice to me.

[CreekDog]

183. kind of like standing on that X while in Dallas

[ramapo]

185. Offensive

McCain's photo-op there was also offensive. Hillary's smile is odd but I think that thing has been surgically affixed.

[milkyway]

187. Years from now, she'll recall how, upon visiting the site of King's assassination, she was so

overcome with grief that she hurled her bookbag against the wall.

Wow, a grinning white person surrounded by solemn black people--extremely tone deaf, at best. Good thing it wasn't raining.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

188. you really need to pull that thorny H out of your ass...it is making you look really foolish

"H"= hatred

[OhioChick]

189. Tasteless. n/t

[zulchzulu]

192. I've been at that spot and the last thing you want to do is smile and wave

If you've ever been to Memphis and visit the Lorraine and go through the FANTASTIC museum, you want to cry.

You want to be silent.

You want to think about how such a tragedy at that location has caused even more pain and fear.

You want to pray to your maker about how such a simple motel represents so much about the spirit and profound message of Martin Luther King. It is transformative to go there and see it for yourself.

Do you wink and smile for the cameras when you are there? If you have no soul, you do.

[question everything]

193. No, but you should be offended that Obama skipped that event

altogether. Why bother? He already got his blacks to vote for him in the south.

[TLM]

209. Why would i be offended...

that Obama had the good sense, respect, and decorum not to turn MLK's memorial into a campaign photo op circus?

[progressoid]

194. No - and I'm not in the Hillary camp

[GodlessBiker]

195. I can just see her waiving and smiling leaving Auschwitz.

Sometimes, when are at a place of deep meaning, human tragedy, and cultural significance, you should be more reflective and focus inward than to focus on the media circus going on a little bit off in the distance.

[grantcart]

196. that was my feeling

I would have been overwhelmed by the experience as I would have Aushwitz. I don't really make a judgement about how others would have handled it but I think it would be difficult for me to even say a word for a day after visiting it.

[Beacool]

198. Oh please, the usual chest thumping

from the usual haters.

At least Hillary and McCain showed up. Where was the Anointed One? Oh yeah, campaigning in IN.

[nichomachus]

200. A lot like this

[samsingh]

201. don't know

[Thepricebreaker]

203. She just seems WAY to happy...

[BREMPRO]

206. inappropriate and disrespectful, she's clueless. not a good quality for a president....

with her wave and smile in context it's as if she's saying "I'm so happy that I've arranged this opportunity for you people to see me pay my respects to MLK so that I will appear respectful and caring to the voters in America-land" I believe she's so emotionally damaged for the men in her life and micro-managed by the political strategists that she doesn't know how to feel or show appropriate and genuine emotion. In this case added is an apparent lack of understanding of the sacred nature of this place to many. She needs to go on a retreat somewhere and find herself before she runs for president.

[gort]

211. I'll give her a break, she's in campaign mode

I will alway be more offended by this:

[Ken Burch]

212. Thank God they tore down the Ambassador Hotel already.

Oh well, coulda been worse I guess. She could've been wearing an "All The Way with LBJ" button.

HRC, you're better than this.

[FatDave]

216. Absolutely.

How could anyone stand in that spot and smile?

[create.peace]

257. totally right on!

we visited the museum last fall, and my son, 19yo, afterwards said he was surprised at the welling up of emotion when we stood looking out of the window to where MLK was assassinated. you find yourself there, after experiencing the whole walking tour, listening to ruby dee and the late ossie davis narrating. i am personally offended, yes, personally, by HRC waving particularly. smiling there is also inconceivable but a closed mouth smile of appreciation of the crowd would have been almost understandable. i am not sure she or anyone really should be out on that balcony. getting on the bus and allowing another photo-op by the sculptural image of rosa parks is also offensive. i was moved to tears when on board. she shouldn't have allowed any photos at all, imho.

[OneBlueSky]

217. yes, I am thoroughly offended . . . the woman has no clue . . . n/t

.

[quickesst]

218. Clinton haters.....

are offended because she breaths air. So what the fuck is new? Amazing the lengths some people go in order to prop up their candidate. Keep dipping though. I don't think Obama supporters have quite reached the bottom of the cess pool they derive their hate-filled delusions from, and there is still a short way to go before they complete the transformation of DU into the what I thought Democrats were supposed to be fighting against. Unfettered hatred propping up a political cult figure. Gonna save us all, and I've heard that one before. Same tune, different election.
quickesst

[AtomicKitten]

219. I reached the nadir of my disgust a while ago; this is just politics to her.

[Perry Logan]

220. Eugh! Nothing creepier than a bunch of Clintophobes sliming a fellow Democrat.

And such great strategy, too. Y'all have certainly carved yourselves a niche here at DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5120659

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4849238&mesg_id=4849238

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922044&mesg_id=4922044

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965088

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965227

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4982708&mesg_id=4982708

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5036756

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5065868&mesg_id=5065868

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5156352&mesg_id=5156412

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5165104&mesg_id=5165104

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5180133&mesg_id=5181094

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5195072&mesg_id=5195072

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5204441&mesg_id=5204441

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5214352&mesg_id=5214352

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5226313&mesg_id=5226313

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5235825&mesg_id=5235825

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5304883

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5349292&mesg_id=5349292

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5392998&mesg_id=5392998

[greguganus]

245. Clinton's a democrat? n/t

[Independent-Voter]

225. Wow - what a shrill, inconsiderate shrew she is. That pic makes my blood boil!

[workinclasszero]

226. That is sickening

Damn Hillary, at least pretend you give a s**t about what happened while standing on the spot where a great american leader was assassinated!

Oh but look! Theres a camera! Its all about ME..ME...ME!!!!:puke:

[JDwho]

227. Not offended

Don't get me wrong, I'm sensitive to the memory and the situation. However, she acknowledged Dr. King and the place of his death. A facial expression, as we should well know, does not necessarily show us the emotion (or lack of) that a person is feeling. I'm a Democrat and hope for a President that can bring us change and much needed allies. This dissecting of Hillary's facial expressions, when she's probably making an effort at showing respect, is a bit petty. Bigger things are on the horizon to worry about than picking a person apart that has little chance of being our President, anyway. Let's focus, I doubt that Hillary and all of her advisers got together to scheme a way to disrespect a man worthy of so very much. Intention is important, and (JMO), I don't believe her intention was to hurt the black or white community that feel so much love and respect for Dr. King.
PS. Not a Hillary supporter,(in fact, the constant attacks on her have made me reluctant to join Obama's team), but with her being dissected at every turn and opportunity, had to comment, ignore if you wish to continue the attacks on another Democrat. Anger due to her "sniper fire" comment is warranted, but a facial expression? Surely, those who wish to destroy someone of their own party can come up with something a bit more enraging. Whoever posted pics of the crowd, thanks for that, changed perspective a bit.

[madmom]

228. Attack Attack Attack!!!!!

good rovian move

[Apollo11]

229. "Mark Penn advised me to do it"?

OK I can see this does not look good.

Maybe there were some folks down in the street waving up at her. In which case, Hillary would probably wave back without thinking too much about it.

Let's put this in perspective. It's not like it happened during a commemoration service.

[Red Zelda]

230. Is that legit???

If so, she's more foul than I had suspected.

[Riddler]

231. Bullshit!

If she had been somber and ignored the people cheering for her, there would have been 47 threads here about how cold and disinterested she is to her supporters. Face it, no matter what she does she's criticized for it.

[JDwho]

240. Riddler, you nailed it.

If she had behaved in a different manner, there would be spin on how inappropriate she was. lol. I had to laugh when I read your comment. I was thinking the same thing. To diminish how far she has come, even if she loses, is ridiculous. I'm so tired of Democrats acting like they belong to two separate Democratic parties. I can't bring myself to bash a Dem. I may be ashamed when they lie or vote in a manner in which I don't agree; but, I won't say I'm a Dem., then act like a Repub. This is what I see on DU constantly...it's a shame. Thanks for giving me a good laugh.

[MethuenProgressive]

232. Cherry picking ONE PHOTO to pretend to be outraged over? Typical Obama tactic.

[Catchawave]

234. BTW, where was Obama ?

:shrug:

[SaveOurDemocracy]

261. This needs it's own thread ... too easy for the haters to

pretend they didn't see it buried way down here in this ridiculously spastic thread.

[JVS]

290. It's like cherry picking a few things said by a preacher... oh wait, that's for hannity and hillary

[Spiffarino]

233. It looks really bad

But what's the real story? Did somebody call up to her that she knew? What was her behavior like inside the room, or right before or after the photo?

I'm for Obama over Clinton, and there are lots of reasons why. An event that was captured in 1/125 of a second isn't one of them. If there's a sequence of these photos, or a video that would show this in context it would be much more persuasive. If not, this is a fairly weak smear job.

[tomfodw]

235. I'm not

Hillary Clinton is a lifelong supporter of civil rights for all Americans. There's no reason to accuse her of NOW showing any respect simply because she is smiling and waving. Now, if she were someone who did not have a history of being a strong supporter of civil rights, then you might have cause to be offended, but in this case you are (IMO) simply being way too God damned touchy. Lighten up, please.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

236. Utterly tone-deaf as always

[shellgame26]

237. To be honest, I'm not saying she's dumb but I don't really think she's sooooooobright.

It also underscores the fact that BIll has been the brains behind that family not her. She has in essence been a kind of trophy wife. That's why some people are saying she's set the women's movement back.

I found out yesterday that she failed the DC Bar years ago. People were suggesting that they consign her to the Supreme Court and someone pointed out that while she is not Bush, she is not that bright.

[zanne]

238. It's inappropriate...

I know that Hillary is smarter than this. I wonder what happened.

[AngryOldDem]

243. That;'s the worst photo I have seen in a long while.

Talk about dancing on someone's grave. "Shameful" also comes to mind.

Respect. Look it up, Hillary.

What a piece of work. Everyday she is becomimg more of a detriment and an embarassment to the party and to Democrats as a whole. She needs to go before it's too late.

[Pappy]

247. Pretty typical of her, she is totally clueless.

[J R]

249. This photo op is in really bad taste...

What's wrong with Hillary and Pals? Are they stupid?!? Total lack of common sense!

[jimnasium]

250. Meh. Can't say that I'm "offended"

She may have been just waving to her imaginary friend in the crowd.

She only has a few of them left...

[Lerkfish]

251. I find it inappropriate, but I'm far beyond being offended by the clinton campaign

now I just point and laugh.

[wowimthere]

252. Was Clinton's acting job pathetic or what? She is the absolute worst

when it comes to sincerity. If you heard her try to force emotion, you'd be offended. I don't even thinks she realizes how insincere she really looks. I give her a D for effort but it seems to me that she would just be herself and not her "political" self. If you don't have tears, don't try to force them.

[shagsak]

253. Not offended.

I think if you're biased you can find fault in anything. Maybe if you keep your posts related to ISSUES you might be EFFECTIVE.

Gobama!

[chascarrillo]

265. Of course you're not offended. Look at the Confederate stars and bars in your avatar.

[LanternWaste]

254. Darnit... I laughed out loud at a joke whilst

Darnit... I laughed out loud at a joke whilst at the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealy Plaza last year.

Guess I have no respect...

[Ken Burch]

291. Could just be you REALLY, REALLY liked LBJ.

:sarcasm:

[jjr5]

258. That's going too far. She's obviously using this for political reasons . . .

Which is really wrong.

[DrZeeLit]

259. Not offended, just ODD in the weird ironic way. McCain also went to the

motel site.

I dunno.
I guess a lot of people go to the "grassy knoll" and Ford's theatre.

But I would think, depending on your politics, smiling and waving wouldn't enter the equation.
Reverence, quiet, contemplation of our loss?

The time's they are a-changin'.... now it's all sound bite and photo op.
(do I sound like an old codger? geeeez, hope not)

[riverwalker]

260. It made me cringe

my first gut reaction was pure disgust.

[onefreespiritedchick]

263. Hell yes!

She could have at least looked somber given the importance of the day and location.

[DinahMoeHum]

264. It would have been better for her to place a wreath at that balcony

and to be seen doing that.

Waving to people like that at that place is totally gauche

:evilfrown:

[ToughLuck]

266. I doubt she meant to be disrespectful..I am NO Hillary supporter

she is just another politician stuck in the crap of a campaign...I also doubt she even wanted to be there..most likely she would prefer to be answering her 3am calls..so she could start bombing.

[rocktivity]

270. Do you mean to tell me she's standing on THE balcony

SMILING and WAVING like Evita Peron? Oh, no, she DIDN'T!!!


rocknation

[Limelight]

272. I'm giving her a pass on this one...

I know full well Hillary wasn't trying to be disrespectful. He's obviously waving to people who are likely cheering her. She could have probably done without the big toothy grin, but it wasn't meant to be rude of flippant.

I totally see how someone could be offended, but it'd be a stretch to really throw her under the bus for this one.

[David__77]

273. Wow, I'm honestly bewildered. Not "ready for prime time."

This is really the sort of indecorous behavior the world expects from the current president. This is the site of a MURDER of a cherished leader. One doesn't wave and smile at such a place during such a high-profile visit. Weird, weird, weird...

[Politicalboi]

274. If this primary

Lasts till June maybe she can take a walk through a pantry in L.A waving and smiling too.

[TexanDem]

275. that smile hardly matches that teary eyed speech - do it??

[happygoluckytoyou]

277. IM NOT CERTAIN.....

I DONT THINK EVERY SMILE AND WAVE IS THE STORY OF A LIFETIME...

I LIKE OBAMA BUT THERE HE IS NOT COVERING HIS HEART OR NOT SINGING OR WHATEVER...

RICH AND POWERFUL PEOPLE MEET OTHER RICH AND POWERFUL PEOPLE... NOT ALL ARE NICE

EACH CANDIDATE HAS "SOME" SUPPORTER THAT EMBARASSES THEM...

AND HEAVEN HELP ME FOR SAYING ANYTHING "PRO-GOP" BUT NOT EVERY TIME SOMEONE CLOSES THEIR EYES DURING A SPEECH ARE THEY SLEEPING THROUGH IT....

------------ON THE FUNNY SIDE THO, I HAVE SUPERIMPOSED THE "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" BANNER ABOVE THE DOOR WITH EXCELLENT RESULTS

[Beaverhausen]

278. Like Obama wouldn't have done the same thing. Oh yeah, he didn't bother to show up

give me a break people. This is ridiculous.

[Baby Snooks]

"Carrying on the legacy"

This is just pandering at its worst - giving the impression that somehow the candidate is "carrying on the legacy" of our "heroes" and in the case of Hillary Clinton the only legacy she seems to be carrying on is the legacy of the Bushes. The same legacy her husband is carrying on.

The Republicans have been doing this for years with Ronald Reagan and the hypocrisy is best seen in their position on illegal immigration since Ronald Reagan lobbied for and got the most comprehensive immigration reform legislation this country has ever seen passed which he signed into law and which his vice-president then proceeded to ignore when he became president as did everyone else. Ronald Reagan focused on the employers rather than the immigrants. To date, in 20 years, not one employer has actually been prosecuted under his law. Now the Republicans have criminalized the immigrants while still ignoring the real criminals which were and are the employers. They claim to be carrying on the legacy but in reality they are not.

But many see this photo and believe somehow she has honored the memory of Martin Luther King. She has not. She is just using his memory the way she has used the memory of others including Ann Richards. The way most politicians have used the memory of others to win votes.

Notice Hillary Clinton has been careful not to use the memory of Molly Ivins. And with good reason. Molly made it clear she would never support her for president.

Molly made the "support the Democratic candidate no matter what" mistake once. I doubt she would make it a second time. Particularly with regard to Hillary Clinton. Molly made it clear how she felt.

None of us have to support anyone. And that is a truth made quite clear with regard to Hillary Clinton.

[Rockholm]

279. God Damned? Channeling Rev. Wright?

[Bucky]

281. Did she act like this the whole time? Or was she reverent & only waved back at well wishers?

Senator Clinton is known for being too stuffy, not for being too irreverent. I'm for Obama, but I won't jump to conclusions based on one, out of context photograph.

[Eurobabe]

284. This is creepy. Is that the Queen I see?

Same handwave. :shrug:

[defendandprotect]

285. Really in poor taste --- bleech --- !!!