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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:34 PM Original message |
Let's review the facts about the IWR vote. |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. He said the case for war was not made. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Clinton said the same thing. nt |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. The premise of your whole post is false |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Thanks, I should not have trusted my memory. HOWEVER, you did not |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. BS The Votes Were As Follows: |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Do you have a link for that? Thanks. nt |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Let's see a link to where you got your shitty OP |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. I wrote the OP myself and remembered the vote incorrectly, not intentionally. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Sure,. Here Are 2 |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Thank you. It was not |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh, a reintroduction of this old chestnut. Listen up: HILLARY VOTED YES ON THE IWR. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. bullshit. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. In Hillaryland they're one and the same n/t |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your are fact challenged... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. What kind of fucking bullshit is that? 99/100! CRAP!!!! |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. What about what he said in 2004 about having basically the same position as Bush? |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Your thread is dishonest. He was a talking about troop withdrawal not the war |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Yet he voted repeatedly to spend our blood and our money |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. There's a huge difference between starting and funding |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. A speech is a speech. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. What's the difference between the UN and US forces? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. That's a good question. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Good points |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I agree with your assessment about our rejection of the UN. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. It's one of the many things I disagree with Obama on |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That's as valid a reason as any for |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. You never learn |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. He said as he saw it, the case wasn't made |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. In 2004, while running for the Senate, Obama said |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. That is absolutely crazy, just plain crazy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. Reaching... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. I know she did, can you deal with Obama being anti-war, then pro-war, then |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. Lets try to stick with the facts - shall we? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. He probably would have voted the same as he did on the Kyl-Leiberman bill. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Or he'd have voted "Present" as he often did in the Illinois senate. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. Time to edit your edit |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. Obama Was Wrong |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. The argument you make is constitutionally incorrect, think Article 1 Section 8 |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. That Was Not The Intent Of The Article |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. That is the question, isnt it? If congress is using this power, are they creating new abilities or |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
22. PLEASE NOTE THAT I EDITED MY OP & APOLOGIZED FOR MY ERROR |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. perhaps the same as my own flip-flops |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. First, Kennedy voted no |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
32. I've heard this said but have never seen it anywhere |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Here's one link: |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Thanks LWolf, from your link I found the transcript and video |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. See post 31. As usual it's taken out of context |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Key line at the end there. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Talking about words |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Yes, TY, I watched that earlier. I commented on the Fox snippet. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
34. I agree. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. BO's campaign is based on a non-existant 'vote" --where he never had to |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. What does 9/11 have to do with Iraq? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Hillary did not think Bush would either. Her vote was for inspections. she has |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. If she trusted Bush, then she's a fucking moron who doesn't deserve to be president. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Funny How So Many Of Us Knew Exactly What The Vote Would |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. From his limited vantage point in 2002 he says he wouldn't have done it. |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. I live in NY, and I lived the post-9/11 days too |
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