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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:48 PM
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I hate the campaign the Clintons have run. BUT--
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 01:49 PM by Bicoastal
I don't hate the Clintons.

Once their campaign ends, so will my animosity towards them. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

Any one agree?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:50 PM
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1. Ugh.
FREE RANDI RHODES
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:51 PM
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5. If she's free, I'll take her.
Every house should have a Randi Rhodes.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:56 PM
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12. word
:thumbsup:

FREE RANDI RHODES
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:50 PM
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2. Agreed, Kicked, and Recommended.
n/t
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:50 PM
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3. Ask me in November
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:51 PM
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4. Hate is probably too strong a word. I just want them to go away.
Bill should go build some houses or something and Hillary should go back to being the senator from NY (if they still want her).
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:52 PM
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6. Depends on the definition of love. n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:52 PM
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7. It just seems utterly passee.
Obama's being more gracious than I've ever seen a candidate be.

Meanwhile she's throwing the kitchen sink around.

I much prefer gutter balls to gutter politics really.

Let him shoot hoops.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:53 PM
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8. I hate the campaign Obama has run. His lies, distortions, attacks, using Racism
And I hate the media for vilifying Clinton. And I hate the fact that the DU majority are lemmings who respond to the media by nodding in unison and say things like, "I hate the way she has run her campaign," when she has done nothing more than Obama has...and I would argue has run a more honest campaign than Obama who uses surrogates to attack her while pretending he knows nothing about it.

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:54 PM
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10. BUT do you hate Obama?
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:59 PM
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17. Bullshit on the surrogates thing...
She uses surrogates not to attack only Obama, but his supporters...and of course pretends to know nothing about it. She is NOT innocent of this and yet you're pretending she is. Buffenbarger called me a latte-sipping, Prius-driving, Birkenstock-wearing, trust-fund baby when I am none of those things. I am in college, but I am not rich, I don't drive a Prius, I hate Birkenstocks, and I hate coffee, let alone lattes. Her surrogates are just as bad as his, so quit whining about it as if your side is innocent in this.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:12 PM
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23. Are you denying that Obama has used his surrogates to attack Clinton?
If you are, then you are like a majority on this board who pretends that Obama is innocent while they continue to dehumanizing Clinton and ignore Obama's political attacks.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:52 PM
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31. No, I'm NOT denying it...
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 02:55 PM by TTUBatfan2008
I'm sick of this one-sided bullshit coming from people trying to pretend that their side isn't engaging in the exact same damn tactics, which is what I gathered from reading your earlier post. Hillary's completely innocent of this, but Obama's guilty of it. Total horseshit. They're both guilty of it for crying out loud. Perhaps you should learn to read. My last sentence in my other post addressed your question quite clearly. I said that they were both guilty of it, but YOU are pretending Hillary is innocent. She's not. Obama's not. It's politics.
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:54 PM
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9. I agree, sort of. I support her ideologies and proposed solutions, but
her political tactics are very annoying. Spin, spin, spin.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:56 PM
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11. Agree...
although I have never liked Hillary. I do like Bill a lot.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:56 PM
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13. I don't hate them, but I have zero respect for them. The sheen is gone from their halos.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:56 PM
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14. They have played a little too dirty. If she keeps it clean from here out and..
gives a full hearty endorsement for Obama and rallies for his support she will be OK..
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:59 PM
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16. That's big of you!
To allow her a chance to get back in your graces.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:08 PM
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20. As long as she doesnt endorse McCain any more over Obama she will be fine.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:44 PM
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29. Isn't it though?
:eyes:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:57 PM
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15. I dont hate them, but I do want them to quit politics after this campaign
Hell, take that $100 million and buy an island, enjoy life.

But no more politics for either of them.

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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:59 PM
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18. I think that Obama will consider using Bill Clinton as a resource.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:11 PM
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22. What good would Bill serve Obama?
People supporting Obama obviously dont care what Bill thinks, otherwise they would vote for Bill's wife.

Bill is DLC, the sooner we get their kind (pro-business over the interests of the average citizen) out of the party the sooner we can help put this country back on the road to its former greatness.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:16 PM
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24. It was a reference to using Bill Clinton during his presidency.
But I get it now. There are so many Obama supporters in the United States that he doesn't need any of Clinton's supporters to capture the general election.

Be careful, there are corporations that do care about their employees.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:50 PM
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30. Well then I guess it is a good thing that there is only a 1 in 51 chance that you live in NY (eom)
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:04 PM
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19. I am disappoint by the Clintons but will vote for her in the GE, NT
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:09 PM
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21. Ladies always love the Bad Boys even if they cry in pain from afar for the Good boys.
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 02:10 PM by quantass
its about the drama and some people just cant get enough.
just analogising
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:33 PM
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25. They've been outsmarted out hustled out fund raised and out toughed
by Obama from day 1.

Remember how the original clinton line was he's not experienced or tough enough to run a campaign. Hillary is experienced and she's mean she knows how to get down in the trenches and fight dirty and that's what you need to take on the republicans. Obama is too soft all he wants to do is sit down with our enemies and sing kumbaiya, plus he doesn't know anything about running a hard competitive campaign.

Now all the clinton supporters are whining about how dirty of a campaign Obama has run, how much everybody picks on hillary and how unfair the press is to them. Doesn't sound to me like she's very "tough" or "mean" or "experienced" or able to "fight dirty".

She's certainly :"loud" and "strident" but she doesn't seem very good at the "dirty fighting" that she advocated so widely at the start of the campaign. She's been beaten at her own game and she hasn't even laid a glove on Obama.

She may be a thoroughly capable senator and nobody has ever accused her of having a low IQ, but she just is not a likeable personality, nor is she capable of "toughness" and "standing up to the right wing". I think she's an introverted bookworm who is attempting to be something she isn't and the fraud is showing through.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:40 PM
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26. depends on how much they help Obama and the party in the future
I still oppose their ideology though, their DLC economics.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/74
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:42 PM
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27. I respect both Hill and Bill. They have done a lot of good for our nation.
However, their time is up.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:44 PM
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28. If they attempt to go after people like some petty 3rd world dictator my "concern" won't end.
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 02:46 PM by kwenu
I think they will try to destroy Pelosi, Dean and others if they don't warm up to "helping" Hillary get the nomination.
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