Breaking: Mark Penn asked to give up roll as as chief strategist

[Superman Returns]

...for Clinton Campaign.

Breaking on CNN

[BlooInBloo]

1. Ha! You beat me ya bastard! :)

[FrenchieCat]

2. "Asked?"

Why not "told"?

Who the leader on this?

[samsingh]

47. what did this guy do?

[boppers]

3. 3 threads going

...before they finished the live blurb.

Go, go, internet!

[BlooInBloo]

10. :) Closing mine.

[Catherina]

44. I alerted on mine. I hope they can combine all three

Good news sure travels fast.

Here's the song I'm drinking too. I know it's kind of perverted to drink to this but it's such a happy song :hi:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zbnQIeDhx4

[knixphan]

51. oui!

[bhikkhu]

4. So...he can say no, if he wants?

[boston bean]

8. Are people really that politically inept and stupid?

No, they are asked to leave and if they don't they are fired.

Most times, people leave. It's not a yes or no proposition.

[bhikkhu]

14. Oh...have a sense of humor about things.

Its like a policeman asks - "place your hands behind your head, please".

[lisa58]

27. I have a sense of humor...lol!

[FrenchieCat]

13. They don't have the money to pay him......anymore, so he'll go back to Blackwater....

meantime, Hillary didn't realize till now what a scum this guy was. So at the 11th hour, it dawns on her. Kind of like trusting Bush with her war vote, hey? :shrug:

[babylonsister]

5. I wonder why 'resign' didn't work? nt

[City Lights]

6. Dumped by Columbia and The Clinton in the same week!

At least he's still got Blackwater and McCain.

:rofl:

[PCIntern]

7. Did he give up the Pumpernickel too?

Or the bagel?

:rofl:

[ruggerson]

9. Including butter?

[lisa58]

11. who asked whom?

[WillyT]

12. He Resigned... Link Here:

Link: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/06/penn-resigns/

Nothing on their front page as of this posting.

:shrug:

[lisa58]

15. thank you, thank you, thank you...

...this is only good for the country.

[JayFredMuggs]

29. WHY did it take all of SIX DAYS?

He met with Columbia folks on Monday.... did she not know about it on Tues?

Oh, I remember, it was those damn UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!! They told her to let him go on Thurs. But she waited another 3 days?

O OK.

Is this sort of like Bush playing guitar while New Orleans drowned?

[lisa58]

34. This is why it is good...

...it should never have happend.

Once it did, it should have been handled immediately.

Since it wasn't, it shows to whomever is looking, that this is a really, really badly handled campaign - that they aren't being honest and are not smart enough to get their stories straight.

Now, whatever Mark Penn touches will be questioned (I hope) and THAT is good for the country.

[BlooInBloo]

16. The whole question will be: what doesn "resigned" mean here?

Clinton people will be inclined to take it at face value, ask no questions, and bitch at those who do ask questions.
Obama people will ask questions, assume the worst, and bitch at anybody who doesn't also assume the worst.

[FrenchieCat]

23. As an Obama supporter, I will clearly state this his ass should have been fired.....

We know that Bush is the one that never fires anyone.

[dkf]

26. He's not really fired. He's still her pollster...

As Dick Morris was to Bill and as Karl Rove was to Bush.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Will he be blamed for everything that went wrong with her campaign......?

if so, that would be wrong. She is the responsible party, IMO. IF she picked this bad of a strategist, then it says more about her than it does about him.

[lisa58]

24. he will be blamed for as much as is feasibly possible...

...maybe a little more.

[superkia]

52. She is also responsible because her campaign was just another...

typical spin and throw shit at the wall campaign and her and her people didn't realize that allot of Americans are waking up and actually driving the car again. They just expected Americans to believe everything thrown out and to just follow the media like sheep like we typically do and it backfired on them. Now its divide and conquer time, need to at least get the elites second choice, McCain in office!

[dkf]

18. He is still going to be her pollster.

Is he just changing his "title"? Is this another shenanigan?

[WillyT]

20. And...

Link: http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/04/penn_is_out_geoff_garin_is_in.html

[lisa58]

38. This is even better than I thought....

...if they were going to cut him loose, that would make sense.

They are keeping him as a pollster (a la Dick Morris) and they are losing an opportunity to reject the guy out of hand. Now they are still paying him (probably can't afford it) and are still associated with a guy who can continue to get paid while lobbying against the candidate (seemingly).

[MagickMuffin]

36. From the article, it appears he may not be going anywhere

"After the events of the last few days, Mark Penn has asked to give up his role as Chief Strategist of the Clinton Campaign; Mark, and Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates, Inc. will continue to provide polling and advice to the campaign," Clinton Campaign Manager Maggie Williams said in a statement.

[Dudley_DUright]

19. I think this probably is too little and way too late

but welcome just the same. Any bets on who will replace him as "chief strategist"? I hope they have more sense than to pick James Carville.

On edit: Geoff Garin and Howard Wolfson will replace Penn. At least they did not pick Carville.

[usregimechange]

21. Anyone else verify this?

[BlooInBloo]

28. It's in web-press right now. Just look around. HuffPo already has it, e.g.

[Dudley_DUright]

39. Link to Huffpost article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/06/mark-penn-resigns-from-cl_n_95323.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/06/mark-penn-resigns-from-cl_n_95323.html

[AX10]

22. Bye!

:bounce:

[polichick]

25. Jumping off a sinking ship before it's too late??

[BlooInBloo]

30. I suppose the silver lining for Clinton is that now the campaign has a little bit more $.

[Catherina]

31. You beat me to it by seconds! I asked the mods to lock or combine

my thread with yours.

I'm going to have a drink now :toast:

[lisa58]

42. cheers

[BumRushDaShow]

32. HOLY SH*T!

He must be going for full time McCain now!

Abandon ship. Abandon ship. May day. May day.

:rofl:

[Mezzo]

33. I am sooooo effing glad about this, I can't begin to tell you. nt

[quakerboy]

35. He asked or he was asked?

Either way, good for Hillary. But it makes a difference.

[DB1]

37. If her checks were good, he'd still be there.

[anigbrowl]

40. I'm sure Karl Rove will take him out for dinner to console him

After all, they seem like they'd get on famously.

[Scurrilous]

41. K & R

:kick:

[crispini]

43. Pssst... it's "role"

/spelling Nazi.

:D

[Zachstar]

45. This is so so news for Obama supporters.

It is great because it will help democrats overall. However, Clinton might move in a better fashion now that could recover her loss in the polls.

[quantass]

46. .

[DLnyc]

48. Good for the Clinton Campaign. I would say bad if they didn't, so I have to

say good that they did (can him). Also, good for us all, in that it spotlights the human rights and labor rights problems of our "ally", Columbia.

Could have been more and/or sooner, perhaps, but good for them that they did censure their own top guy.

[ORDem]

49. k.

:kick:

[knixphan]

50. Cya.