I don't care anymore.

[Tennessee Gal]

I am just tired of all the negativity. Who is with me?

[gateley]

1. .....

:hug:

[Forkboy]

2. I keep wanting to say I don't care, but I do.

There are many times I wish I didn't, but too much is on the line, for me, for the country, and for the world.

I do encourage breaks though. :)

[Cooley Hurd]

3. Now is the time for all good Democrats to come to the aid of their party...

OK... so it's not original, but it's true!:thumbsup:

[Skittles]

4. I"M sick of all the ASSHOLES who have made a MOCKERY out of DU

I don't even recognize this place anymore - it's not anti-bush or anti-repuke, it's ANTI-HRC all the time and ANTI-OBAMA half the time. IT IS SICKENING. :puke:

[Tennessee Gal]

5. I would have to agree with that.

[Zhade]

7. It's gone pretty far. But clinton's constant lying has not helped that.

She did it to herself.

[Name removed]

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[MadBadger]

10. Woohhhh

[Skittles]

11. THEY JUST CANNOT FUCKING STOP

it's like some sort of SICKNESS - and they're making ME sick :puke:

[OzarkDem]

27. or some sort of employment

Its tiresome and it helps the GOP.

[Spider Jerusalem]

32. Then leave, if it bothers you that much.

No-one is forcing you to participate in these forums. You're obviously here of your own free will. As long as the primary season continues, there WILL be contention between supporters of Sens. Clinton and Obama. This is politics. This is what politics IS. It is not nice. It is not pleasant. It is a blood sport. For now, and until there is a Democratic nominee, the fight is largely between two Democrats. This is perhaps unfortunate, but it is also the way things are. If you don't like it, that's really too bad, but your whining and bitching are not going to change things. This is going to go on, until one or the other candidate drops out, or, possibly, until the convention. If it makes you sick, you have the option of not reading these forums; what you don't have the option of doing is of telling other members of this forum to shut the fuck up. And again, if you don't like it, that's your problem, not anyone else's.

[ruggerson]

41. And yours is one of the angriest, most divisive voices on this forum

[Spider Jerusalem]

44. Angry? Not so much.

Divisive? Only if you happen to be a hardcore Clintonite who thinks the brutal and simple truth that she has almost zero chance of winning the nomination is 'divisive'.

[ruggerson]

45. "hardcore Clintonite"

you just can't help yourself. It's just one ugly, divisive spew after another.

[Spider Jerusalem]

46. That's neither ugly nor divisive.

'Clintonite' has been a fairly accepted term for supporters and/or close associates of both Clintons and followers of their style of Democratic politics in common usage in various media for well over a decade and a half now (cf. British usage of 'Thatcherite' and 'Blairite'). My use of it is neither ugly, nor divisive, it is descriptive.

[ruggerson]

49. You keep telling yourself that

[Spider Jerusalem]

50. I don't need to; it's a simple fact.

I'm sorry that you think otherwise, but your evident inability to process language without reading sinister meaning where none is implied is your problem, not mine.

[NDambi]

56. HMMM I like you!

[dorktv]

15. Awww...here, have a beer.

:toast:

[psychopomp]

19. If you are so sick of DU

why bother to come here and post at all?

Such vitriol does not improve the atmosphere at all. In fact, I would say that your post could be perceived as quite ironic.

[Marrah_G]

31. You just can't stop can you?

[mtnsnake]

34. Have you ever done a post that isn't about Clinton's lying? Stop spamming the board w/your BS

No wonder people have had it.

[niceypoo]

59. There has been no 'constant lying'

Obama supporters are doing to Hillary what Bush supporters did to Gore in 2000

It is known as a 'smear campaign.'

[MADem]

12. I'm with you. NT

[leftstreet]

13. Oh please

DU is the best place on the web to get fast, reliable news and info about the campaigns.

[Skittles]

14. IT USED TO BE

NOW IT'S 50% FUCKING GARBAGE

[Marrah_G]

30. Yup - blunt and to the point, but dead on

[QC]

58. Agreed! This place is now 1998 Free Republic. n/t

[Maddy McCall]

6. I don't care about the shit in GDP, but I do care about this real-world election.

GDP is a joke. No one comes here for info any more. It's just a place where people can beat up on people and play gotcha games.

It's not like this out in the real world. I hope you'll get involved away from DU...it's not that bad out in the real world.

:hug:

[Seabiscuit]

22. Is that a Barbie doll smoking a cigarette?

Your avatar, that is. :)

[cliffordu]

8. Yep.

:hi:

[TTUBatfan2008]

16. I'm sick of it too...

I just want this to be done with, regardless of who wins. Couldn't care less at this point. The real opponent is John "Doubletalk Express" McCain. People have lost sight of this.

[Tennessee Gal]

17. I am just sick and tired of this he said/she said bullshit.

I think the public cares less than those who post on the internet do. Nobody knows where this election is going. It is a total disgrace and might just lead to McCain getting the presidency. God help us all.

[xchrom]

18. yeah -- i could care less -- i'm pretty the candidate is going to be some one

i can not support.

i was excited about the campaign in the beginning -- thought everyone was great -- and listening to dems take on bushco in the debates and discuss their ideas was wonderful.

i don't even come here much any more.

[Solon]

20. What kills me is that since there isn't a substansive difference between the Candidates...

people have to attack them on a more personal level. No one in GD:P is really interested in issues, as long as their Chosen One is nominated, they don't care. Instead, whenever people talk about their chosen candidate, instead of saying they support them over issues, we get this fluff like "I have faith in him/her" or "They inspire me" or some other feel good BS that has no relation to real life performance. I mean, for crying out loud people, these are Politicians, and you guys get into a huff when they lie? How immature do you have to be?

[Seabiscuit]

21. I've about had it with DU. I never imagined it would deteriorate into the vile swamp it has

become.

This Obama guy worries me, because no politician in my lifetime has ever attracted, inspired, and motivated such a vile, hateful, ignorant mass of devoted followers as he has during the past several months, and they seem determined to invade this website and destroy it forever. I fear for this country if it's stupid enough to put him in the White House.

Not all Obama supporters are like this, but the vast majority of them on DU certainly are.

If things don't change soon, and if the admin/mods don't start taking control of the situation, I doubt I'll ever contribute to DU again, and will probably abandon this website forever.

[TTUBatfan2008]

23. What's ironic here...

is that while you are complaining about such "vile" comments, you're making huge generalizations which can be considered "vile" from another person's perspective. From what I can tell, you're calling everyone that supports him stupid. This is a pretty vile attack on me quite frankly. There are stupid supporters of every candidate and I personally feel that electing Bush in 2004 was proof of how stupid this country already is. If they elect McCain, it'll be further proof of it. But yet here we are with you saying the exact opposite...that an intelligent Democrat with far better policies than Bush and company being elected is somehow the end of the world. What you need to fear is a hothead warmonger like McCain getting in the White House.

[Tesha]

24. And you, of course, are a paragon of virtue.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5180270&mesg_id=5185592

"100. Typical Idiot ... he's a jerk. I'm so over Obama. nt"

If you think we DUers will miss you when you're gone, we won't.

Tesha

[Tesha]

25. (Duplicate posting removed by author)

[Seabiscuit]

62. I think I just figured something out...

There are three replies to my post, all from "Ignored" - i.e. people I've placed on "ignore" over the last several months because they're part of the problem.

Yet on "My DU" my post shows only "2 replies". That means something happened to one of the "Ignored's". This could happen if one of their posts were deleted, but that's not the case here.

The only other possibillity is that one of those 3 posters on "Ignore" has been tombstoned.

So I say: "Hip! Hip! Hooray!" to the mods/admins for taking out some of the trash.

[Snarkturian Clone]

26. It's not only in GDP

there's spillover into GD ... a lot of the logical DUers have left or stopped posting so the inmates are running the asylum... lots of posts about pseudo-scientific bullshit, crackpot conspiracy theories, grave-dancing, racist/sexist posts, reverse-racist/sexist posts, celebutard worship, worship of certain DU posters, "gloom and doom" posts, and irrational hatred for those who are not mega-leftists. This place has gone to shit. I've been lurking since 2004 and posting since August and I have to say that I can only read DU for like 5 minutes without getting pissed off.

[scheming daemons]

28. 4000+ dead in Iraq, and their families, REQUIRE that we care....

...

[Marrah_G]

29. I'm with you. There is no joy left in this election anymore

Just broken friendships, loss of respect for alot people and a good heaping of bitterness and disappointment at people who so easily turn on each other and treat one another so shabbily.

The worst are held up as some sort of heros by others, egging on their nastiness and hatred.

Anyone who thinks everyone will just forgive and forget after the primary is mistaken. The nominee will most likely get everyone the vote of 99.9 % of the people here, but I think DU will not heal for a very long time.

I know that personally my view of many people I respected has been completely sunk.

[Seabiscuit]

61. "my view of many people I respected has been completely sunk".

You're right, it's not just the newbies who seem to have invaded this place from some distant galaxy.

It's some of the people I've had enjoyable conversations with both on the boards and by PM over the years. Some are people whose writing I've admired over the years. They've changed. They're not themselves any more. Some (dare I say most?) even resemble pod people.

My wife and I are both sick and tired of this election year by now. After Edwards was shoved aside, it's gone straight down the the rabbit hole.

[LisaL]

33. I don't care anymore either. This will be the first election since

I were elegible to vote that I won't vote at all.

[UALRBSofL]

37. The theme of this thread is turning into a Obama v Clinton

I have to take the stand of many of the Obama supporters above. If you Clinton supporters don't like it here then leave, we could care less, we don't need the negativism. If y'all weren't around we would have far less fighting and flaming. And while your at it don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

[Marrah_G]

39. Or you could try acting civilly.

[Seabiscuit]

57. Ah, the "c" word. It's wasted on them.

"Civil" isn't in their vocabulary. The poster you responded to is a perfect example of the trash I've been taking out with my "ignore" button.

I'd like to find a website where I don't have to put so many morons on "ignore".

I've given up on this one.

[Life Long Dem]

35. It only comes from Hillary's side. It's everyone elses fault but hers

[Marrah_G]

38. You people just can't stop can you? You can't seem to help yourselves.

[Life Long Dem]

42. See what I mean.

[Marrah_G]

43. The post is about stopping the negativity

We really need to bring some civility back to DU.

[Life Long Dem]

47. Not as long as the attacks continue from Hillary's side.

[totodeinhere]

48. But what if one candidate or the other is saying or doing something wrong?

Or what if they are lying? Or what if they are using sleazy campaign tactics? Are you saying that it's not legitimate to point these things out? Or are we just supposed to sweep these things under the rug?
And shouldn't we consider negative factors about either candidate when deciding whom to support? I'm all for party unity, but this is a hard fought campaign after all.

[Marrah_G]

51. Niether one is an angel

And those things can be pointed out with civility. Those things can be brought up without the nastiness seen on this board in recent months. The treatment of Duers by other DUers has been unforgivable with the exception of a few.

[totodeinhere]

53. But the OP said "I am just tired of all the negativity."

They didn't say anything about civility. I am all for civility, but pointing out negative information about either candidate in a civil way is still negativity. If you look up the dictionary definition of "negativity" it doesn't say anything about civility. If people are tired of their perceived lack of civility here, that's fine, but don't use it as a broad brush to condemn anyone who brings up negative information about either candidate.

[mtnsnake]

36. Ya gotta get away once in a while and back to nature

If you're able, find some trails, get into the woods and hike. If you're not able, skip reading the boards for a while and get into a novel. It's good for the soul to get out of here once in a while. The negativity can be overwhelming, I agree.

[rodeodance]

40. I dit that some this weekend--it was great.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. I Don't Know What To Say-My Only Post Of The Day

I used to post here all the time... Now I go weeks without posting or make one or two posts per day...

This might sound puerile but after reading some posts directed toward me on this board or someone I admire I am tempted to say I dare you to say it to my face...

It's really best I don't post here anymore... I don't want to be a hater and this blogs inspires me to be one...

PEACE

DSB

[FinallyFree]

54. It's already over...

for both of them. Obama is already defined as a black racist with the most liberal voting record in the Senate. Hillary is a proven liar. Very few in the mainstream will vote for either one. Welcome to the White House, President McCain.

[clevbot]

55. keep drinking that kool-aid

[SoFlaJet]

60. I hope you enjoyed your stay here at DU

C-ya

[susankh4]

63. Been taking a break from it....

I was away all weekend. Thank goodness. I feel lots better now. But, checking back in with D.U. was the wrong thing to do.

I'm gonna take a few more days off and see if things get any better.

Thanks for asking.