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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:24 PM
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Hillary HACK Taylor marsh EXPOSED
some really great investigative reporting done on that HACK Taylor marsh


http://johnbrownks.blogspot.com/2008/03/fraud-or-legitimate-pundit-taylor-marsh.html

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The Taylor Marsh story has two parts. First, it cautions us to remember that having a slick blog and a knack for PR doesn't make someone smart, qualified, or credible. Second, it teaches us that anyone can command an audience for his or her opinions. The Taylor Marsh story is about fame for the foolish, attention for the mediocre, and how a kid from Missouri can somehow grow up to be an oft-cited resource among those with an interest in serious matters--even if she might not have any business sharing the stage with serious people.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:29 PM
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1. The article goes on to say.....
"Taylor Marsh is a radio host. She says so. Everyone says so. It's all over the fucking place. However, you probably haven't heard her in your car on the radio while commuting to work or going to the store. You see, Taylor Marsh isn't on the radio. No one has actually paid her for being on the radio at any time, based on what I can find.

Taylor Marsh has a website that looks like it belongs to a radio show host. It's illusion. She's a podcaster. She records a show like the ones they actually broadcast on the radio and makes it available for download.
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There is something inherently silly about calling yourself a radio host and garnering credibility as a media figure from it when all you're really doing is taking a few calls from ass-kissing blog readers and converting results into MP3 format. That isn't a radio show.

Radio shows are broadcast. Radio shows, in most cases, have advertisers. Babbling into a $15 Radio Shack microphone in your basement and uploading the results to your website isn't running a radio show. Sorry, it just isn't. You are not a radio host if you do that. You're a podcaster."
http://johnbrownks.blogspot.com/2008/03/fraud-or-legitimate-pundit-taylor-marsh.html

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:36 PM
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6. *AHEM* an announcement:
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 12:39 PM by FLDem5
Once my website it set up, and I do video-casts, please refer to me as television personality FlDem5.

Got it. That's FlDem5 - one "L", capital "D".

I demand RESPECT, dammit.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:40 PM
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9. it's NOT an "article" it is a fucking BLOG...some assholes BLOG ......LMAO you're a CLOWN!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:58 PM
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11. I know that Taylor Marsh only has a fucking Blog......doh!
That's the point of the research done in the article that I cited! :rofl:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:03 PM
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13. I believe that was Taylor Marsh you were just replying to
She seems to be taking it personally. Maybe if someone holds up her rabbit ears so she can get better reception, she wouldn't feel the need to be so grouchy.

:hi:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:06 PM
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15. I just hate this pricks and they way they pick on her
can you give me the call stations of her radio station I want to listen to her.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:54 PM
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35. Its these pricks... THESE pricks... sheesh... nt.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:09 PM
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70. thanks for the help on the typo lol
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:34 PM
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73. It's "it's"
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 04:34 PM by spoony
;)
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:51 PM
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85. Got Me!!!! nt
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:56 PM
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36. Aren't those Obamanuts hilarious?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:01 PM
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43. Almost as Hilarious as the Hillzombies who posted Marsh's
stuff like it was gospel... Hypocrisy is a wonderful thing.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:00 PM
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Did you say that yesterday when someone posted
Taylor Marsh's attacks on Obama?

TWo blogs, two opinions yet Hillary supporters seem to be happy to support one while disparaging the other.

Personally I took this with a grain of salt, but I will say that at least this blogger admitted his bias.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:01 PM
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75. Does the blog tell the truth, or doesn't it. I don't care if it's on a blog if it's the truth
Does Taylor Marsh have a radio show, or is she podcasting and calling it a radio show?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:58 PM
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38. As someone who HAS worked as a real, live, PAID radio DJ--I find that claim..
...that her podcast makes her a "radio host" one of the funniest things I've read in a long, long time.

LAME.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:22 PM
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77. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


genius!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:02 AM
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128. On behalf of all real radio hosts, present and past, thank you Frenchie.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:32 PM
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2. A Hillary supporter exaggerates her resume? Shocking.
Wonder who she got that idea from?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:34 PM
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4. More.....on that.....

"Here's the deal. In 2002, Taylor Marsh went to Las Vegas and became a radio host... Sort of. Judy Proffer (Magpye Media) and Marsh came up with the cash to buy time on KLAV, a Las Vegas AM radio station. That's right. They bought time.

KLVA is to radio what Author House is to publishing. If you can't really get a job on a real radio station, you can go to KLVA and buy blocks of time. They give you the studio, provide production assistance, and you're on the air! Instant radio host status. If you'd like to become a talk radio host tomorrow, call your local AM vanity station and offer them some cash. That's all it takes. You can stutter. You can whine. You can say outrageously stupid things. You can be boring. It's on your dime. I could put my four-year-old in front of a mic and have her sing variations on "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" for two hours a day and, voila!, she'd have a claim equivalent to Taylor's as a "radio host".

The little group that funded the project didn't sustain it very long. It looks like the Marsh plan was to buy time on KLVA and to put together a show that was good enough to attract some attention from other media types. They could then syndicate the show and turn in into a profitable enterprise instead of a pay-to-play operation. That never happened. Taylor's foray into the real world of actual broadcast radio consisted of being a self-proclaimed hour-long "antidote to right wing talk" that never found backing beyond incubation.

So, Taylor Marsh is a pocaster who took a shot at becoming a radio host once upon a time. That's the bottom line, as I see it."
http://johnbrownks.blogspot.com/2008/03/fraud-or-legitimate-pundit-taylor-marsh.html

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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:27 PM
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22. so THIS is the person that Larry Johnson
has been pushing to replace Randi Rhodes with?

:spray:
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:58 PM
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39. Yep, that's her.
It cracks me up, because Taylor isn't capable of shining Randi's shoes as far as broadcasting goes.

But they want to replace a pro with a hack, only because the hack praises Hillary and the pro doesn't.

Wild.

- as
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #22
108. Cool! A Dusty fan and a French and Saunders fan! I don't care who
your candidate may be, your avatar and pics made my day!!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:33 PM
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3. K & R
:thumbsup:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:36 PM
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5. Whatta fucking phony!
I hear she's angling for AAR to replace Randi with her insipid little radio show.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:11 PM
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18. Her "columns" ran under "advertisement" lol
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:52 PM
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33. Where'd she get the money to buy all the column space and airtime?
Was she selling Amway on the side or something? :shrug:
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:57 PM
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Didn't you read... she worked in the porn industry....
I am sorry... I meant to say she only worked in the porn industry "deep under covers"
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:01 PM
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42. Could you imagine the outcry...
..if it came to light that one of Obama's biggest supporters worked in that industry?

The charges of sexism would be flying. Funny, I don't see any posts talking about how porn exploits women here, do you?

I guess those hard line Hillary feminists are rather selective in who they criticize after all.

- as
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:10 PM
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49. Clinton supporter logic:
Paying woman to use there bodies as porn props = ok
Using the term "Sweetie" in reference to a female = "Outragous, sexist, campaign ending"
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:26 PM
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57. It'd be funny if it wasn't so hypocritical.
Nah, check that - this is funny as hell.

- as
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:00 PM
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68. Ain't that the truth
The Madonna/Whore dichotomy is fully intact where many HRC supporters are concerned. I've seen the Obama Girl called "nasty" and "trash". Michelle Obama called "Obamarosa" and all kinds of distasteful things. The women Bill Clinton is accused of harassing or having affairs with are, to a woman, garbage. Let's not even start on how some of them were talking about Spitzer's prostitute. I'm not surprised at all that there's no problem with Taylor Marsh earning money, however tangentially, from the porn industry. Not suprised at all. The women in that industry don't merit any kind of feminist concern to them.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:27 PM
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59. Sexist Obama supporters going ape
You people are laughable.

Watch out, your mom will catch you...
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:29 PM
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61. Shouldn't you be rejecting and denouncing the sexist porn industry?
Or are you too busy worrying about Obama calling some old woman 'sweetie?'

Nice double standard.

- as
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:26 PM
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58. What journalism school did Randi graduate from?
Just wondering....
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:30 PM
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80. it isn't the lack of journalism cred
it's the lack of

ACTUALLY WORKING AT A REAL LIVE RADIO STATION WHERE YOU COLLECT A REAL LIVE PAY CHECK AND WORK TO GET REAL LIVE ARBITRON RATINGS.

But you know that.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:28 PM
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115. Credentials...
Randi Rhodes served in the Air Force. She was a mechanic, held rank of Airman First Class and was honorably discharged.

Marsh competed in beauty contests and edited a hard core porn site.

Who's the feminist now?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:34 PM
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118. One generally doesn't get a journalism degree to be a DJ or radio host.
The difference is still that one has been a paid radio host, broadcast over real, live airwaves, and the other one has not (but still calls herself a radio host).

As I said upthread, I used to BE a DJ, and her claim that her podcast makes her a "radio host" is beyond lame. Unless you've parked your ass in front of a mic in a broadcast studio/control room and received a paycheck for it, you are NOT a radio host.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:37 PM
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7. she had to give up going to the radio studio because of the sniper fire
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:40 PM
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8. Sometimes...
it's just too easy.

:sigh:
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:57 PM
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10. Translation: 'Help us destroy her for her support of Hillary'

Are you, or have you ever been, a Hillary Clinton supporter?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Desperate and really pathetic.
Not just that you invoke McCarthy, but that you're reduced to trying to protect hacks like Marsh.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:05 PM
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14. See? What did I tell you?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:07 PM
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16. Glad to see you've given up on trying to justify your behavior by any rational means. nt
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. This is different.
TAYLOR MARSH IN PORN...

A review of Lovelace: The Musical isn't the only Marsh foray into the pornography and sex industries. Somewhere along the line, Taylor Marsh developed a keen interest in the topic. She claims to have extensively researched the field for several years. Part of that research involved working with/for Danni Ashe. Ashe, a porn star, was one of the pioneers of making shitloads of cash by peddling porn online. Marsh was there with her, serving as the editor-in-chief for Danni's Hard Drive.

That year in the field served as the basis for Taylor's book, My Year in Smut: The Internet Escapades Inside Danni's Hard Drive.

We'll talk more about that book and Taylor's claims about it later. Here's what I'm interested in knowing, though. Was the year with Danni Ashe a "research thing" from the beginning or was it a job with a porn outfit that turned into a book later? I could buy a copy of My Year in Smut to find out, but I'm not really THAT interested. I have a feeling Ms. Marsh will eventually fill us all in if people begin asking for answers, anyway. By the looks of this Marsh post, it was a gig. Nothing more.

I don't think it's a stretch to imagine that someone was writing relationship and sex advice pieces that appeared in an alt weekly would hook up with a porn company to serve as an editor. I don't think Taylor Marsh was going deep undercover when she was working with Ashe. I think she was just working a job. That guess fits nicely with the record of some Taylor Marsh appearances in LA that were focused on erotica and sex.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:14 PM
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19. Here's John Brown's review of her porn book
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #19
48. This part is funny and scary at the same time:
My Year in Smut includes a story about Marsh's short stint as a phone sex operator. If you were dialing a $3.95/minute 900# back in the late 80s and masturbated while talking to "Lisa", you may have been chatting with Taylor Marsh!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #48
72. Even more so than..
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 04:31 PM by Fighting Irish
Taylor Marsh giving blow job tips (according to the review)?
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. Pure smear - Your post has removed all doubt.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 01:51 PM by guruoo
Thanks.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #17
29. yes, things are always different, if it is against Hillary
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Heh. If someone in the Obama campaign worked in the porn industry...
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 02:51 PM by americanstranger
...you guys would be screaming about what a dirty, horrible sexist thing it was.

But hey, Taylor Marsh? She says nice things about Hillary! No problem!!

- as
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. Remember, Larry Sinclair. He has been on the Obama wagon .
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. Only if you're wearing your tin-foil hat.
Here is the real world, that story's been discredited.

- as
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:04 PM
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46. He ain't over with, just like the Rev. Wright thing is not. Talk about the tin foil hat.
Just you wait and see.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. I'll tell you what is most definitely over with....
...nah, never mind. too easy.

- as
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #46
106. You keep preaching it...
I love the Taylor Marsh bots... Tell us how the lie dectector test that Sinclair took were all inaccurate because they didn't verify his story... go ahead...
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #10
62. and a pretty lame attempt at that
OMG! She graduated from college with a BFA!!!!

OMG! She acted on Broadway!!!

OMG! She won a beauty pageant!!! (ergo, she must be a whore, right?)

OMG! Everything in the article is already on her blog..

These guys need to go get a fresh bag of Cheetohs.
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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #62
98. There was this one time in band camp, I was eating Cheetos,
watching porn and my REDACTED turned orange!

Never ate Cheetos since.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:17 PM
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20. Wow! By Taylor Marsh standards....
...I'm a 'radio host' too!

http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/index.php?topic=tbtm-radio

Didn't know it was that easy! Now if we coulda gotten paid for it...

- as

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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:20 PM
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21. K & R
Wow...that is eye opening. I had no idea who this person is except an occasional mention in a post. Kind of creepy, really.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:29 PM
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23. LOL! n/t
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:02 PM
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25. she must be doing something right
if you guys are going after her like this... :)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Yep....Taylor Marsh is doing a lot of Hoodwinking....
She appears good at it!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. Using the logic of the poster you responded to
GWB and Darth Cheney must be doing all kinds of things right too, since we all pay so much attention to them here.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #25
63. You outta ...
work for the Hillary campaign. You're logic is bullet proof.

Kind of like the sniper fire in Bosnia.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #25
96. Wow, that's some fancy thinkin right there
We also go after George Bush. Does that make him the greatest president ever? :eyes:
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #25
112. Depends on what your definition of "right" is...
If it means spinning things until they are unrecognizable, exaggerating, and outright lying, then yeah, she seems to be doing a great job.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:33 PM
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26. Who in the hell is johnbrown, if not an Obama hack.
The Obama folks will say and do anything to destroy Hillary , her supporters and then turn around and ask Hillary folks to make nice and please vote for him if he wins the GE. Man, I was trying the last few days to see just what you folks see in him,but crap like this is enough to turn my stomach and puts me back totally against Obama.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. It's that John Brownshirt?
These are the most desperate, dishonest, delusional, people you'll ever meet in your lifetime!

Part of the Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Cabal..

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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:49 PM
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30. I couldn't agree with you more.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. So, I take it John Brown...
...is dead to you.

Pretty soon, there won't be anyone left but Hillary, Taylor Marsh and those 20 supporters of hers.

- as
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:57 PM
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. I thought it would happen today with that
Obama = terrorist post... but I guess they let everyone have a few before the pizza is ordered.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #28
45. Part of the Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Cabal.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Now that was funny! :toast:
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #45
51. You know... that Demcoratic Party Cabal... nt
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #45
71. Now, if it was the Scaife, Murdoch, Limbaugh, Drudge cabal...
... then they'd be on the right side.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #28
55. cool nazi code word tellurian
Part of the Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Cabal. yup the members of the america sa movement
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #28
87. Hillary's version:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #28
92. How many stars did Hillary's flag have when she said it would be over Feb. 5th?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #26
117. Strange bio for johnbrown
About Me
I stole the name from the abolitionist. I'm getting older. I live in Kansas. There's a good chance that I'm right and you're wrong. Well, I'd like to think so. At least the "I'm right" part.

In the dream where you show up to school naked, why do you never go swimming?
I'm too busy with the orgy in study hall to worry about swimming.


I'm still on Taylor's side :hi:

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:11 PM
Response to Original message
50. Every time you think it can't get any sadder...
*sigh*
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
52. OMG, she worked in the porn industry, and she's a diehard Clinton
fan? This is the same TM that has been cited on DU so often as an 'expert'? Well, I guess she is! Oh, the irony! :rofl:
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. Where are the feminists?
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 03:30 PM by americanstranger
Shouldn't they be on this thread talking about how porn exploits and objectifies women?

Funny, I don't see them... where could they be? Off fretting about Obama calling some nice old woman 'sweetie?'

Funny standards in play here, no?

- as
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #54
76. Well I was sure LulaMay & Beacool would have shown up to denounce
Ms. Marsh's behavior. Lord knows they seem to be two hardcore feminists, who object to a male calling a female "sweetie". And this doesn't get a rise out of them?
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #76
82. Apparently they could care less.
Weird, right?

You'd almost think there was some kind of double standard in play here, wouldn't you?

No, that couldn't be right. Feminists care about this kind of thing, no matter what side someone's on, right?

Maybe they're all off at a women's conference or something. Yeah, that's gotta be it.

- as
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #82
83. very weird indeed....
but you can always depend on Ozark to show up and defend the indefensible. Now that's loyalty.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #83
84. I guess a weak defense is better than none at all.
:evilgrin:

- as
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
53. the ROFL smilie does not suffice
I need a guffawing smilie
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:25 PM
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56. Pretty lame, no real controversy here
There's nothing in the bloggers post that Marsh herself hasn't discussed on her web site or written in her book.

The fact that she's a college grad (from Stephens College, no less) puts her well above most political radio commentators and some political bloggers.

AND she's from MISSOURI! My gawd, how controversial is THAT! The blogger is from Kansas and is not doubt still smarting from the ass whipping the Mizzou football Tigers gave the Jayhawks, but I digress....

AND she won beauty pageants and used the money to pay for college! Oh the hu.....


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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. What about the porn industry part?
Doesn't that bother you a little, seeing as how porn exploits women?

What if there was an Obama supporter who worked in the porn industry? No big deal, right?

Right?

- as

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. OMG! An Obama supporter who worked in the porn industry?
This is pretty thin stuff.

I'll read her book and get back to you.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. Face it, you'd be pulling your hair out if that was the case.
You and your fellow Clinton supporters would post the story ten times on this board, clucking and condemning and talking about how evil and sexist the Obama campaign was for allowing such slime to work on his campaign.

You guys nearly had a heart attack over 'Sweetie-Gate.'

But Taylor's cool because she's a Hillary mouthpiece, so porn? Eh, no big.

Hypocrites.

- as
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. What does this have to do with Clinton?
Oh, yeah, nothing.

Now if you want to talk Rezko, then we're in business...
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. I thought you were smarter than that.
Guess not. Let me explain, I'll type slowly and number my points so you can follow...

1. Taylor Marsh is a Hillary supporter.
2. Taylor Marsh once worked in the porn industry.

Now, any good feminist will tell you that

3. Pornography objectifies and exploits women.
4. Anyone involved in the pornography industry is either exploiting women, or being exploited themselves.

(Given that Marsh wrote a book about her porn gig, I'm assuming that she acknowledges that she did, in fact, work in the porn industry and did so willingly.)

So given Clinton supporters' proclivity for trying to tar Obama with his past associates and their ties to shady dealings and skeevy businesses, it would follow that

5. Taylor Marsh would be persona non grata among the feminist crowd and
6. You all would immediately call for Hillary to reject, denounce, distance, etc. herself from Taylor Marsh, who admits working in an industry that exploits and objectifies women.

But looking at the 'no big deal' responses from Clinton supporters in general, and the willful obtuseness of your replies in particular, I'm led to conclude that you view pornography as nowhere near as offensive as Barack Obama calling a woman at a campaign stop 'sweetie.'

That's a glaring double standard, isn't it?

But, hey. Going by the Clinton supporter textbook, we're now allowed to go forth and rant about how 'Clinton is in bed with the porn industry,' right? After all, you attempt to tar Obama if any of his supporters so much as jaywalk.

Understand now? Hope so.

- as



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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #69
79. There are lots of people who support Hillary
who may not be people like me. But whoever she is, she's supporting a candidate who cares about women's issues and has proven she has the courage to face withering opposition to advance a legislative agenda supporting issues important to women.

I'm sure its the same situation as with Obama supporters. Yet they're supporting a candidate who doesn't support women's issues and who I don't trust to ever do so.

Obama's supporters lose me with the "Iron My Shirt" chants. I don't care if they're into porn or if they're ministers. If the candidate they favor doesn't support women's issues, fuck em.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #79
81. Double standard. Check.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 05:32 PM by americanstranger
Can't say I'm too surprised.

- as
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #79
105. Senator Bob Packwood cared about women too
Then they busted his ass for years of sexual harassment.

Don't mean a thing. Politicians always use that line for political conveniance. It is Hillary's lack of party loyalty, political hubris and lack of moral compass that are the issue in this campaign.

Argue if you want OzarkDem. You are one of the few unignored Clinton supporters on my list. I can't believe you are defending Taylor Marsh. No more than I can believe people are taking the time to denounce her so pathetically.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #67
99. Or we're in business if we talk about Bosnia, or Mark Penn too right?
or is proper ONLY to talk about Rezko?

Would it be that y'all actually DID talk about these issues, but no it's only senseless flaming on these boards. Constructive talk and polite disagreement are nowhere present which leaves me questioning who the posters here actually support.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #60
88. Did you see how nasty some of these Hillary supporters were towards Obama Girl?
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #88
95. Yep. They're very selective in their charges of sexism, aren't they?
n/t

- as
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #56
107. You mean her "vanity book"...
Real authors don't have to pay publishing companies.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
66. Marsh is a total joke, but I have to give her credit
She's done more good for Obama's campaign than any other blogger out there. I almost suspect she's secretly an Obama fan and is trying to help him by acting like a lunatic Hillary supporter.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #66
74. POssible......Double Agent Marsh!
Getting paid on both ends.....or something like that! from Porn to Podcast to that......
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #74
78. I don't know if you meant that as a pun, but.........
:rofl:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:29 PM
Response to Original message
86. priceless
"Every time I read a Taylor Marsh post, I make that face usually reserved for sniffing a pot of human feces."
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
89. scary man
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:27 PM
Response to Original message
90. Thanks
Rec!
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:33 PM
Response to Original message
91. What really cracks me up...
is that she doesn't even have a radio show... yet she podcasts one every day... So basically she spends three hours talking to her self about how wonderful Hillary is and how dangerous and sinister Obama is.... then she posts these rants online so that the 50 or so people who go to her site can listen to the rants. lol
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #91
94. She podcasts every day?
I gotta give her some credit for that.

When we were doing TBTM Radio, symbolman and I would do an hour a week, and it took about 6 hours of production time to put the show together.

(Of course, I was in NY and he was in LA or Hawaii at the time, so there was a lot of studio trickery involved.)

And for the record - we did about 50 podcasts before they even thought to call it podcasting. Being ahead of your time sucks...

- as
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:18 PM
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93. "HIllary-induced soul cancer" == Phrase of the month.
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johnbrownks Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #93
122. It really should...
...become a catchphrase.

Perhaps, with your help, it will.

Your amigo,

John Brown
Coiner of Phrases
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:40 PM
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97. I can't imagine
bothering to keep my subscription for AAR if TM replaces Randi Rhodes. Guess my ipod will return to its original intended purpose of listening to music.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:51 AM
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:57 AM
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101. slick, with a knack for PR, command an audience? Are we talking about Obama?
Taylor Marsh could be President!
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:58 AM
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102. I call flamebait on this one
So Taylor Marsh self-promotes. So what? We should be judging the content of her posts, unless she is claiming specific expertise. Personally, I think the content of her posts stink, but that's just me. Not everyone can write like Glenn Greenwald.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #102
110. the point is that she has become a major source of argument for some
and she turned out to have completely misrepresented her professional status. She had to pay to get on radio and get published. She has never been paid to write or work on radio.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:18 AM
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103. Obama HACK John Brown cited as "GOD ALMIGHTY" by fellow haters!
A least he's taken the "Teen Cheerleader Sex!" ads down off his site now that the ObamaBots started donating to him.
You can lick him all you want, ObamaBots!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #103
109. so what he said about Taylor is true?
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johnbrownks Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #103
120. If only...
...that were true.

I haven't ran any "Teen Cheerleader Sex" ads.
I have no means to collect donations.

--just in case anyone took that seriously.

Your buddy,
John Brown
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:36 AM
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104. Please post a warning in the future.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #104
127. watch out you'll get sued according Marsh...
she has been making threats to the blogger who researched her... because he posted pictures of her.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:59 AM
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111. Taylor Marsh (Radio Show Host-Bullshit) and Hillary CLinton (under Sniper Fire-Bullshit)
Birds of a feather....


:rofl:
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:57 PM
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113. I have a few comments
1) Has no one here ever heard of Blog Talk Radio? It's not on XM or Sirius, or any AM/FM Frequency that I am aware of. Does that mean it isn't radio via internet?

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Stations.aspx

:shrug:

Chris Bowers of Open Left used to be one of the hosts and still supports the notion. He is not a Clinton supporter either, yet, he would never call Taylor Marsh a hack. He certainly would disagree with her views--respectfully.

Taylor's show is essentially a podcast, but it is live over the Internet, and it is legitimate.

2) I have a healthy respect for someone who is a self-promoter. My gosh, Barack Obama and Clinton got expensive help to promote them. But then Marsh is not running for office either.

3) Marsh has been fair to those of us who don't have a dog in the hunt (meaning former JRE supporters), which is more than I can say around here or the Daily Kos.

4) Some of the comments I have seen that have been vicious towards Marsh are by former supporters of Wes Clark. He has been a guest blogger on her blog a number of times. What gives? Did Clarkies give up on Clark and would trash him like this just because he supports Clinton and posts on Marsh's blog?

Like I say, I have no dog in this fight, but this is disgusting.




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pioneer111 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #113
114. Well said benny05
This misogynist trashing of women is way over the top not matter who you support
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #113
116. About your point #3...
3) Marsh has been fair to those of us who don't have a dog in the hunt (meaning former JRE supporters), which is more than I can say around here or the Daily Kos.

How did she treat you before your dog left the hunt? Just curious.

It may be that she's fair to JRE supporters because Edwards no longer threatens an HRC candidacy, no?

- as
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. She was tough at times on him
But at times, she was right about some of his campaign's mistakes.

She liked Edwards early in the campaign, but became very impressed with Clinton after seeing her live at the first health care forum in Carson City, I believe.

She still thought JRE's agenda was the most progressive in general, but I suspect identity politics played into her decision to support Clinton. That's fine by me. A lot of people are making votes in this primary based on identity politics.

Taylor announced on her show this afternoon that anything you want to know about her professional life before launching her blog and current Internet Radio show you can ask at 5:30 PT at her blog: http://www.taylormarsh.com. I would expect though if the question is asked in a nasty way, she's not going to answer it. I wouldn't blame her.

She's a pretty nice person to meet. We met at Yearly Kos last year. She knows though I am neutral and not supporting either candidate at this juncture. She respects that, and that matters to me.









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johnbrownks Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #119
121. I can't wait...
...for the chat session.

I've created my own Taylor Marsh account (JohnBrownKS).
I'm excited to read all of the Q&A and will be available if anyone would like to ask me any questions!

Yours,
John Brown
Steam Press Operator
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johnbrownks Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. Maybe...
...I'll get a chance to field questions. Maybe not.

I created my account over 1/2 hour ago and immediately posted a friendly little comment. I wanted to be sure everything was working correctly. Nothing yet. I might be moderated out of existence at TM. We'll see!

Your homie,
John Brown
Wearer of Socks
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #121
124. http://www.taylormarsh.com/
And I do that on purpose, John Brown. Get everyone over there. I don't see many questions at her place. Either you pony up or not

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27373

and remember, I don't have a candidate. But you best defend yourself here or other places and encourage others to ask nice questions. Otherwise, you are a chickenhawk, like Bush.



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johnbrownks Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #124
125. Hey, Benny....
You're cool.

I would've LOVED to ask a few questions and WISH I could answer all the BS tossed at me over a little blog entry...

Unfortunately, my account at Marsh's joint isn't working out. I've been moderated out of existence. Either that, or it just takes them more than an hour or so to get new commenters up and running.

Don't worry, I ain't going anywhere.

I'm certainly not a chickenhawk. If you have questions or complaints, ask me.

I'm game for a good discussion.

Right now, though, I'm worried that Taylor Marsh's photographer is gonna sue me (she warned me in her post and podcast)... So I've been preoccupied with taking appropriate defensive measures.

http://johnbrownks.blogspot.com/2008/04/taylor-marsh-warns-of-lawsuit-in-john.html

Your friend,
John Brown
Professional Illustrator
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #113
126. Good post Benny
The last people to belittle anyone making a go of it in new media should be bloggers like us using places like this. Whatever Taylor Marsh's opinions on the candidates may be, however partisan some might find her, she is just as entitled to share her view point as Keith Olbermann is to share his.
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