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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:20 PM
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Scalia says the American people want the SCOTUS to rewrite the
Constitution. Heard on NHPR this afternoon.

Somehow, I thought the Justices were supposed to interpret the Constitution, not rewrite it.

We'll get lots more of this if McCain is elected.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:21 PM
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1. I can just guess how he'd rewrite it.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:28 PM
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3. With His Big Fat Fascist Crayon?
Vanfancullo Tony!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:40 PM
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18. Love that image!
I picture it as purple - Fat Tony and His Purple Crayon!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:55 PM
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24. TMI!
:puke:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:03 PM
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26. hey! You're the one that threw in something else!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:14 PM
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28. I take my share of the blame.
x(
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:28 AM
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31. well, it was good for a laugh!
Any laugh at Tony's expense is a good one!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:47 PM
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12. Me too! nt
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:23 PM
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2. Gee, I thought the repukes didn't want "activist" judges...
...That legislate from the bench.

Guess I was wrong.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:47 PM
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11. You make a fundamental mistake...
"Activist judge" is Con code for "judge who makes rulings I disagree with".
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:29 PM
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4. Isn't he touted as a "strict constitutionalist" and hater of "activist judges"?
Crimeny, I can smell they hypocrisy all there way on the other coast.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:32 PM
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5. Are you sure he wasn't ridiculing the American people for wanting the SCOTUS
to rewrite the constitution? That's usually his position.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:45 PM
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10. You know, maybe NHPR got it wrong but my first thought was
that Scalia is now so arrogant that he believes that God wants him to do the whole thing over...in his image.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:33 PM
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6. I want Fat Tony to take a long walk off a short pier, but ...
that sounds contrary to a fairly extensive paper trail of written judicial opinions.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:36 PM
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7. Actually, I seem to recall that the founders kind of expected it to be
looked at and revised generationally.

Had that been done....say every 25 years, we would have clearer laws and less need for SCOTUS interference..

There's almost ZERO in today's world that was even imagined back when it was written..


Does any thinking person really believe that the founders would have wanted everyone over 18 to have as many UZIs as they could afford?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:37 PM
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8. Sorry, Tony...
...but your lying, corrupt ass has helped make the SCOTUS irrelevant. Are you suddenly going to rediscover the rule of law next January?
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:37 PM
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9. Scalia is a coward.
:dem:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:49 PM
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13. Scalia thinks we live in the 1700s
Turdface.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:52 PM
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14. No, Scalia, the American people do NOT want you to rewrite the
Constitution. Do NOT touch my Constitution, you criminal. You should be in prison for installing W as the president against the Constitution
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:59 PM
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15. They have ignored it, which is worse, making it toothless. n/t
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:03 PM
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16. Where did he get that idea, and where's the proof?
Oh, I forgot..he's a Republican so it's just a bit of a stretch on the "some people say" justification that they always use for injecting their desires into the media discourse as if they were actually fact.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:42 PM
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17. He Also Wants Us To Engage In Orgies...
<snip>

Challenged about his views on sexual morality, Justice Scalia surprised his audience at Harvard University, telling them: "I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged."

<snip>

Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/oct/01/usa.oliverburkeman

Not the same thing, but funny as hell I think.

:wtf:

Joke: "The other night I went to an orgy. Now I got a new problem... I don't know who to thank." - Rodney Dangerfield

:silly:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:43 PM
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19. This from the crew that decry "Judicial Activism?"
That pesky old Constitution

If we could just get rid of it, we could do what we want.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:47 PM
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20. When Obama is President, he will ask Scalia to step down for that statement
Should be good enough to get him out in 4 weeks.

Then Obama can appoint Hillary....................end of Hillary as a problem.........she can rule for all of women's rights forever.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:58 PM
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43. Scalia CAN be impeached, you know. Let's toss out lazy Clarence while we're at it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:51 PM
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21. "Part of Scalia's objection to democracy,
amplified a year later, was that it got in the way of an eighteenth-century interpretation of the US Constitution. Speaking at the January 2002 Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, he opined that as written in the 1787 the Constitution reflected natural or divinely inspired law that the state was an instrument of God. 'That consensus has been upset,' he said, 'by the emergence of democracy.' He added that 'the reactions of people of faith to this tendency of democracy to obscure the divine authority behind government should not be resignation to it but resolution to combat it as effectively as possible'."
--Kevin Phillips; American Dynasty; pages 197-108
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:53 PM
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22. That man terrifies me. HE is the reason we need to vote Democrat - NO MATTER WHAT.
:scared:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:54 PM
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23. I'd be interested in seeing a quote
I believe the likely explanation, if he did say something like that, was that he was bemoaning the fact that Americans want the S.C. to rewrite the constitution, not that he was in favor of it.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:00 PM
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25. If he thinks that the SCOTUS is allowed to rewrite the Constitution, then
I would suggest that he reread it before he starts writing.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:56 AM
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33. I'd be very surprised if that's what he meant
the OP is lacking in details.

I would bet that if Scalia did say that, he did so in the context of condemning that sentiment, not endorsing it.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:05 PM
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27. I thought Conservative justices were strictly literal about the Constitution
and against anything but a literal reading of the document.

I thought they were against trying to view the thing in context or changes of any kind.

Weird.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:16 PM
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29. They are.
He is not conservative; he is a right-wing radical. Judge Reggie Walton, who did the Libby trial, is a conservative republican judge.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:46 PM
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34. Only when it serves their purpose. When it doesn't (like with corporate personhood) they create law

Though in the case of corporate personhood, it was arguably a "court clerk" activist decision, since it was the court clerk that wrote the "headnote summary" of a decision that basically "decided" that corporations were persons, not even the courts decision actually did that. And of course it was revealed that the court clerk himself was a former railroad company exec with conflicts of interests.

But have any of these Republican so-called "constitutionalists" overturned that "court clerk" activist decision? HELL NO! It serves they and their cronies purpose to let that continue to be so-called "law" when no congress passed a law making corporations persons.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:20 PM
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30. I don't suppose he acknowledges the rewrite that we might find necessary
is the removal of slugs like him from the court via popular vote or petition? That would be the only change I would care about, how "WE THE PEOPLE" can remove him from office.

We must win the White House.

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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:35 AM
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32. We know that's what HE thinks. He is one of the ones
who practically made up the rules as they went along in 2000. Remember? Never forget.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:48 PM
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35. He's a fascist.
He should be wearing a funny hat with that robe, and sitting as a Cardinal, not a Justice.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:50 PM
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36. almost 24 hours and still no quote
Just a lot of objection to a very unlikely position by Scalia with nothing to back at up.

yup... I'm in GDP. Facts don't matter - just take what you hear and run with it.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:15 PM
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37. Rewriting the Constitution is a good idea, but ......
....we need a second Constitutional Convention to do it and not the Supreme Court.

The late 18th century writing style, for one thing, is subject to misinterpretation - especially in the Bill of Rights. Start with the Second Amendment....

Other matters like impeachment and federal elections need changing...... And that Electoral College.....


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:25 PM
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38. This is something all those who say they won't vote for the nominee
should keep in mind. Do you really want more justices like Scalia?
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:27 PM
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39. It would be a trainwreck
If they rewrote the Constitution. It would be a big clusterfuck that would end up harming us more than helping us.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:41 PM
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40. That is wrong on Scalia's part- it also shows us the urgency of electing a Dem President! nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:44 PM
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41. That's entertaining coming from a strict constitutionalist... n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:46 PM
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42. It would be if he were endorsing the idea
but somehow I doubt he was,and the OP won't clarify what was said.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:00 PM
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44. We should keep this kicked for
any of the braindead morons who say they will either sit out the election or vote for mccain. This is what's at stake.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:57 PM
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45. Is there a link for this?
What program was it? Thanks.
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