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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:15 AM Original message |
The White Male Voter |
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flor de jasmim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for posting this! |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. it looks like Clinton did pretty good |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Perot got 19% in 1992; |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
69. And that is why Clinton won and Kerry, Mondale, Dukakis, and Carter all lost |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Which is why we are not nominating Hillary |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. The data shows otherwise. In FL Obama is getting 27% white male support, 28% white female support |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. bed shmed get out here and defend your post lol |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. Yep....I was listening to this broacast today, and I said....WTF? |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. Interesting |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. Excellent post, and I hope the spinners and |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Let's keep this kicked. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
23. A 56 year old white male working class Obamaniac |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Does this mean I can get some health insurance now????? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
7. Just emailed this to some of my co-horts...... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That Nascar dad isn't pastorbaiting, is he???? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. With his other hand? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. RE: On edit - |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
93. just now getting back to the post... |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
10. Interesting!!! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Ain't it tough....... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I said it on another post - |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. you obviously do not live in Texas n/t |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Well, I used to live in Austin, but that ain't really Texas, is it.... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. nope and I would know |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. My wife and I lived there for 10.... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I lived there way back |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
94. very cool! |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
15. The swing group is white women, not white men |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I think that after Hil's team going after Bill Richardson and Obama's race speech |
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Ramonna Villota (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
102. please no |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. What makes you think Edwards would have dented that deficit? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
49. All true, thanks |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
95. this I agree with: |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
17. Excellent point by Ms. Maddow. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
22. "If Barack Obama gets even 27-30% of the white male vote, it'll be a triumph" |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
96. I meant in terms of how nasty this campaign will get... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
26. Interesting and alarming |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
28. The republicans |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
29. I think one of the main reasons is a lot of white male voters Don't VOTE |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
30. Obama appears more likely to draw more white male votes than Hillary. |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. psychic |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
31. Why can't we just forget about white males this election? |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I've got one reason... |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes but they've messed things up for 200 years |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Speaking of which |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Thank you Texas white male. |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. revolutionaries |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Because we can't win without some male votes. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. We could easily win |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. including women |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. They're in denial about their party's base |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Yes! and I'd go so far as to say... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. Why shouldn't they bash her? |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. because it was 'dogpile' on Hillary... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Aw, she was ambushed |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. yup, yur right |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'm not for Hillary but I agree with you |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. true (added to) |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Honest? |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. yes, I crossed over topics there |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Men are afraid of the First strong woman. |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. As a woman living abroad... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. The sad fact of the Dem party |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. But there is more to qualification for office than experience. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Grasping at straws? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I didn't say that she isn't a good candidate. |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I think Barry is a bit of a puppet... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. I haven't seen anything whatsoever to suggest that Obama is anyone's puppet. |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. thanks for the reply :) |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #75 |
91. For someone so "vague and untrained" he has sure run a great campaign. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. that's just ridiculous |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. No, it doesn't make any sense to try to drive away women voters from the party. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Agree |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. the biggest part of the Dem base is women voters, period |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. Good point. Obama does far worse with white women than white men |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
41. Ad idea: Beer and Football commercials ... |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
44. Very interesting statistics Thanks! n/t |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
54. ive heard on a couple of radio talk shows.. |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. beautiful. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
61. Very interesting ~~ leave it to RM to find the facts! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
62. Hah... thanks for posting this! |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
66. If we get 27%-30%, it'll be a triumph? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. The Clinton numbers are misleading since there were 3 candidates |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
98. yes... it would be a triumph... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
67. Because they are over 1/3 of voters |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
71. I'll be in that number |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
74. How did all these candidates do? |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. right on my Dem friend!! |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
105. We should call you "struck_down." |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. You really think Hillary will fair better with |
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struck_dumb (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. no, delusions in check thanks to groundbreaking medications |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. better than Obama and she will do much better with white female voters |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. And Kerry did better among white males than Clinton in 92 |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. so true! the WMV were not going for Obama before Wright |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. That is part of but many of them think Obama can win with 27% white male support |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
84. beautiful, go rachel |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
87. is that 'rebroadcast' available online? |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
89. Very enlightening. Good post. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
92. kick |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
97. I think he'll get around 33-36% of the white male vote. |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. someone said that above, and I agree... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. you mean someone like this lady? |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
100. thanks, everyone, for your comments! |
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demasiado (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
101. The White male voter is extremely important |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
103. i know of 6 republican voters who are voting for barack |
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