Ouch! Hillary's campaign debt:

[ProSense]

Clinton Campaign Owes UC Davis Money

Campus May Turn Debt Over To Collection Agency

DAVIS (CBS13) ― Bill Clinton may have charmed the crowd at UC Davis in January, when 7500 people showed up to see him, but charm has not covered the Clinton campaign bill.

The University of California in Davis is ready to take the Clinton presidential campaign to a collection agency if they do not pay back the thousands of dollars they are still owed.

Here's a breakdown of expenses:

- The UC Davis Marching Band cost $500.
- Cleanup services after the rally cost $250.
- UC Davis Police officers didn't come as cheap. The security bill is more than $5,600.

"I'm more than willing to be held accountable for it, because that's the way life is," Hillary Clinton said to a Montana crowd on Monday. There is no word whether she'll apply that philosophy here, or if she even knows about the outstanding debt.

Her Sacramento campaign office closed its doors after Super Tuesday, and her campaign spokespeople didn't return my calls.

UC Davis is planning to put its final bill out this week, and if the debt has not been settled within a month, they are going to turn the matter over to a collection agency.

Where did the tables turn?

By: Roger Simon
April 8, 2008 07:02 PM EST

Where did the Hillary Clinton campaign first go wrong? How did she go from inevitable to in trouble?

I think it all began with the very first contest: Iowa.

Iowa is where Clinton needed to strangle the Barack Obama campaign in its crib.

She needed to do him in at the very beginning, while her inevitability argument still had credibility.

True, some in the Clinton campaign were worried about Iowa. Mike Henry, her deputy campaign manager, wrote a 1,500-word internal memo saying Clinton should skip the state entirely and spend her time and money elsewhere.

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[Zachstar]

1. I am K&R for the stories but not the topic.

Please make a more descriptive topic.

[ProSense]

2. OK, but that's got to hurt. n/t

[Zachstar]

4. It is not helping her campaign yes. But remember we have to be careful as we take this into the GE.

The republicans will do anything to find errors in every story. So Clear and descriptive is key.

[PoliticalAmazon]

43. Remember Republicans don't need to find an error; they will make it up...

...And we really don't need to start censoring other Democrats for something as nitpicking as the title of a thread!

This is how the Republicans gain control of the story during a campaign. They blow anything and everything (whether it is an issue or not) completely out of proportion, and then their opponents start self-censoring, not going after the Republicans for things teh Republicans are guilty of, because they are afraid they will be criticised.

In other words, let's not do the GOP's work for them, and let's not let them define what we say and how we say it.

If we don't stand up to them, and we allow them to control the campaign in this way, we are no better than the Democratic wimps in Congress who have allowed the GOP to control them in Congress, even with the Dems in the majority.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. Me too. Better title, please!

Hillary's campaign is a bit short of cash, but UC Davis is as well.
Something's gotta give.

[PoliticalAmazon]

46. Hillary owes the freaking bill. Davis' financial situation is not the issue...

...Blaming the victim (UC Davis) is not an honorable approach.

This is very irresponsible of Hillary Clinton, and a clear indication about how she puts her own selfish interests ahead of what is the right thing to do. She's spending money to run ads but can't pay Davis' bill from January? That is unacceptable.

We do NOT need another four years of Bush Jr irresponsibility and selfishness. If she treats her campaign like this, I have no doubt she would treat our National Treasury like this, as well.

[sniffa]

5. Too bad the bankruptcy laws were changed

Now it's going to be much, much harder for her campaign to be absolved of their debts. Damn it! If only some Senators had the foresight of seeing the downfall of the Biden law.

[Debi]

20. You invoke Biden? Now you are dead to me

x(

[hogwyld]

6. The big question is: Will the MSM cover this at all

A lot of struggling workers out there pay their bills, why can't the multi-millionaire Clintons?

[Zachstar]

7. Instead of asking on a web forum. Why not contact the networks and ask them to cover it?

[JanusAscending]

10. Because that is what DU is here for !!

Are you going to be a "moderator" now, and tell us what we can and cannot post on DU?? Who died and made you God????? First we discuss it, and then if there's a consensus, then we contact the press. FYO the press is about a week behind, if not more, than we are here on DU. I'm sure you've realized that by now.

[Zachstar]

14. That is silly.

There is no freekin consensus to contact the media. You have email and a phone line most likely and you need no consensus to make a call or an email.

[PoliticalAmazon]

47. I agree. This censorship is offensive and counterproductive...

...The Republicans will do this mother-may-I nit-picking in an attempt to limit what we will say about McCain and how we will say it.

The Democrats in Congress have gotten us into this mess by not standing up to the GOP and its tactics, especially this nit-picking and faux-outrage over petty issues. They have allowed the GOP to force them into timidity such that Dems won't even go after the GOP for the major issues anymore.

Is that how we are going to face the Republicans in the GE? If so, and if our own Democrats are going to do the nit-picking faux-outrage for the Republicans, we will have little chance of winning in November.

[PoliticalAmazon]

44. If you think that is the best approach, perhaps you could do it for us? Thanks. n/t

[PoliticalAmazon]

45. Hillary CANNOT be POTUS! This irresponsibility is so much like Bush Jr's. n/t

[cali]

8. This raises the question

does she have the resources to fight on PA?

[Zachstar]

9. Fight on past PA you mean?

And the answer is yes. She can move on past PA all she wants.

WINNING however is another story.

[Bigleaf]

13. I am interested in seeing how much of the $20 odd million she raised for March can be used for the

Primary. We will see on the 20th of April. Don't forget all the debt they are carrying also.

[Zachstar]

15. 7

[Bigleaf]

17. Yeah, that's the estimate. If that holds true, she is in deep shit with all that debt. I'll bet

Obama pulls in another $40 million at least this month.

[Zachstar]

18. I wont bet on 40 million.

It is possible but some donors will have other things to worry about this month so I say around 25-30 as this season winds down.

[kid a]

24. Kick

[quantass]

11. k&r

[stellanoir]

12. A responsible leader pays their bills.

This issue has been marginalized entirely and should be HUGE.

[Zachstar]

16. I agree it needs to be further discussed.

Because the next president has to face the fact that the Iraq war has nearly bankrupted this country.

The borrow and next generation pay later Bush needs to not be emulated in the next president.

[JanusAscending]

21. She still has outstanding bills,

from two venues in Ct. from Jan., prior to the Primaries here on Super Tuesday!!

[Debi]

19. Waiting for April 20th to see if she's paid her Iowa bills yet n/t

[rainbow4321]

22. Yep...this place and all those school districts on her IOU list

Meaning she has been running her campaign trail on LOCAL taxpayers' dimes NOT her own.

[backscatter712]

23. Hillary's about to get her 3am phone call.

"I'm calling on behalf of Fly-By-Night Collections, and I show you have a bill of $6,350 to the University of California in Davis. Pay up or we'll sue!"

[rocktivity]

25. The "Turn the Tables" author is a plagiarist

I wrote as much five months ago.

Him:

But to my way of thinking, Clinton’s loss in Iowa was a critical one, because she was no longer inevitable. She had let Obama into the game. She had let a candidate with money and a message get off to a running start. She had allowed him to become a credible candidate.

Me:

(Nov. 17) Unless (Hillary) wins decisively in Iowa, she'll lose her leverage, and she knows it.

(Nov. 18) I'm glad you realize that (Hillary's) winning (Iowa) "handily" is the key...(I)f she wins by only a couple of points, her opponents will not back down--and the voters will start seeing her as a mere mortal.

(Dec. 8) Even if Obama and Edwards only stay close to Hillary in IA and NH, the overall effect will be that Hillary is indeed mortal...I'm not saying that Hillary won't win--I'm saying that she won't win a walk.

:headbang:
rocknation

[ProSense]

32. You've been

Xeroxed?

[rocktivity]

33. LOL! That's why I refer to Politicio

as "politics' answer to TMZ."

:headbang:
rocknation

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

26. I don't personally care how much money she and Bill earn

but to leave hard-working people hanging out to dry is a bit dispicable. Pay your debts, lady. I always pay my bills before I spend money on other goodies. How can she help to balance the nation's budget if she has no control of her own?

[Zachstar]

27. That is a BIG point!

"How can she help to balance the nation's budget if she has no control of her own?"

And McCain will be ALL over the airwaves with that if she somehow gets the nomination.

[PoliticalAmazon]

48. Excellent point. She should not be running expensive ads if she can't pay bills. n/t

[Lucky 13]

28. I feel like this is a much bigger story that Tuzla or NAFTA.

Because it's not about something that happened 15 years ago and subject to "misspeaking". This is about TODAY. This is about stiffing small businesses and Universities. It's about putting the campaign before the people. It's not going to serve her well.

[BryMan]

29. Well, well

After asking why the parties owed money by the HC campaign I FINALLY see one doing what should have been done long ago. Look, I'm not piling on her but not paying your bills when you are getting 20+mil a month in donations isn't ever ok. Or if you are worth 100+ mill personally, people have to pay employees, and have businesses to run.

[stillcool]

30. They must have some really..

bad accountants. This stuff just doesn't make sense...

Clinton camp reimburses; landlord to donate check to Obama campaign
February 13, 2008 12:19 PM
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/NEWS/80213011
by: Karen Dandurant Seacoast Online

Rochester doctor Terry Bennett has finally been paid by the Clinton campaign for rental of a Portsmouth building he owns. Now, he says he will donate the $500 check to Barack Obama’s campaign.
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Bennett said he believes the only reason the Clinton campaign paid for renting his 236 Union St. storefront is because he became the “squeaky wheel,” contacting the Herald last week in frustration because he had not been paid for more than a month.

“Thirty days went by, with no replies to phone calls, e-mails, no replies at all. Suddenly a newspaper article comes out. It was the worst publicity they could get. Three days go by and I get a check,” said Bennett.

In fact, Michael Whitney of Keller Williams Coastal Realty, who handles Bennett’s rental, said the check came through UPS Express mail, and was overnighted.

Bennett went public last week, saying he rented a warehouse/office space to Clinton campaign workers for five days prior to the Jan. 8 presidential primary. He rented the space for $100 a day to be used as a campaign headquarters and dormitory.

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When Bennett’s story came out, other people contacted the Herald about unpaid bills from the Clinton campaign. Iowa resident Richard Reese is the owner of Top Job Services Inc., a cleaning service in Des Moines. His company was hired in November of last year, prior to the Iowa caucuses, to clean the Clinton campaign headquarters on a regular basis.
Reese provided the Herald with invoices and said he had not seen one penny of the $7,561.70 he is owed. As of Wednesday, he still hadn’t.

“I got a call on Sunday from the Clinton campaign who said they were putting the money in a two-day envelope,” said Reese. “Today is Wednesday, and I already got the mail, but there’s no check.”

[Egnever]

31. This just chaps my ass

I really just don't understand how anyone can still want this woman to be president after watching how completely dysfunctional her campaign is. The idea of letting her near the white house after watching how she has run her campaign just scares the hell out of me.

[psychopomp]

34. Indeed

:toast:

[ProSense]

35. Obama's record-breaking $60 million, 100,000 TV ads, financed by

us:

Report: Obama Has Run More Than 100,000 Political Ads

By Greg Sargent - April 9, 2008, 1:08PM

This is just astonishing:

Barack Obama has spent a record breaking $60 million to run more than 100,000 political television ads in pursuit of the Democratic presidential nomination, a new analysis conducted for CNN shows.

In contrast, John Kerry ran a little more than 19,000 TV ads four years ago in his successful bid for the Democratic nomination, according to TNS Media Intelligence/CMAG, CNN’s consultant on political television advertising spending...

Clinton, who trails Obama in fundraising by about $60 million, has run just over 60,000 TV ads in her bid for the White House.

Obama has run more than five times as many ads as Kerry did. Hillary has run three times as many. Of course, the primary has dragged on far longer, too.

Keep in mind that this ad blitz is funded largely by what is basically a small donor revolution. Obama is now apparently laying the groundwork to possibly opt out of public financing, saying that the Internet has effectively created a "parallel public financing system."

It can be argued -- and Obama likely will argue -- that his success in bringing small donors into the process has proven at least as democratizing as public financing has, if not more so.

Wow!

[liberaldem4ever]

36. K & R!

[berni_mccoy]

37. That's about ONE HOUR of Mark Penn's Time.

Maybe they could Dock Penn's bill for his lousy service and pay UC.

[TexasObserver]

38. Stiffing school districts and colleges while she and Bill sit on their millions.

Shady.

[ORDem]

39. It's just despicable how she can leave a trail of unpaid bills to small businesses while

releasing that they've raked in $109 million for themselves. Rotten!

[ProSense]

54. And now trying to claim Obama is an elitist. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

40. Jeez what a deadbeat! If she can't run a campaign, she sure as hell can't run the country.

[ProSense]

41. Clinton Campaign May Soon Be Getting Call From Collections Agency

Clinton Campaign May Soon Be Getting Call From Collections Agency

[ampad]

42. LOL

I shouldn't laugh because it is not funny but what cracks me up is how are you ready on day one when you cannot pay your bills? This right here is a major reason why I will never support her as a candidate. Stiffing colleges out of money, she should be ashamed. Maybe Elton John can pay the tab.

[ProSense]

49. Videos:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com">Hillary Responds to Obama's Comments on the People of PA (phony)

Obama Responds to McCain and Clinton attacks in Terra Haute (smack down)

[ProSense]

50. Pretty sure the people Hillary's campaign owes money to would love to send this message:

Stick Your Elitism Where the Sun Doesn't Shine

[solito]

51. I dont' laugh at people who owe money

It's not a nice thing to do to laugh at other people's debts. I've been in debt and it does not feel good.

[ProSense]

52. Hillary paid Mark Penn $10 million, she owes small businesses more than $8 million.

No one thinks that's funny!

[JayFredMuggs]

53. Mark Peen should give back $8 Million......he didn't earn it! ............ N/T