Had HRC talked this much $hit about the BA, she might have won a few more primaries.

[elehhhhna]

She's only had YEARS.

Too bad she saved all her ugly for one of our own.

[DJ13]

1. Who's "BA"?

:shrug:

[Melinda]

2. Bush* admin?

[nebula]

3. She was too busy kissing *'s ass instead.

[rinsd]

4. I love historical revisionism

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=AmN&q=hillary+clinton+criticizes+bush+administration&btnG=Search

[hfojvt]

8. except that half of that front page

is about Chelsea criticizing Bush recently. :rofl:

[rinsd]

12. 1 page down only 45 to go.

How about this one?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22hillary+clinton+slams+bush%22+&btnG=Search

[hfojvt]

15. there seem to be a lot of pages of this too

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hillary+praise+Bush&btnG=Google+Search

[rinsd]

17. Except the only "praise" she actually gave on those 1st 2 pages in 2 months in.

We can play this game all day

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+praise+Bush&btnG=Search

But do you at least acknowledge that Hillary has been critical of Bush more than just the last week or so as the OP ruminates?

[dchill]

5. An excellent point...

made succinctly. She "saved all her ugly." :thumbsup:

[2rth2pwr]

6. Big Apple?

Band Aid? Bowling Alley? Barr-Arnold?

Birmingham, Alabama?

[hfojvt]

7. Bachelor of Arts

It really is a useless degree.

[Bucky]

11. *ahem*

[hfojvt]

13. sorta proves my point, doesn't it?

unless Sue earned a degree while he was in Folsom prison.

[jillan]

20. Did I say you could post my picture?

:P

[Cha]

9. Of course, she would have..

but, that wasn't considered "Politically expedient" by that esteemed adviser mark penn.

Bucky (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-09-08 08:17 AM
Original message
Time Magazine remembers when Mark Penn nearly sank the Gore 2000 campaign
How do these people keep getting new clients?

The Mark Penn Factor
by Karen Tumulty

Just up on Time.com is this story I have written on Hillary Clinton's not-quite-fired former chief strategist, the complications that come with all of his outside work and some questions that have been raised about his research methods.

As I was writing the story, I happened to come across another story that Michael Duffy and I had written for dead-tree TIME the week before Penn was (actually) fired from Al Gore's presidential campaign in 1999. It included this tidbit, which I had forgotten:


"While a bloated, imperial operation could hardly be expected to pick up on warning signs, Gore insiders particularly fault Mark Penn, the lead among Gore's half a dozen pollsters. Penn shares his energies with the President, Hillary Clinton and Microsoft chairman Bill Gates. Over and over, Penn told the Vice President that Bradley posed little or no threat, that Bush was not as far ahead as public polls suggested and that most voters were confusing the Texas Governor with his father. At one point, when Penn was insisting that Gore was no farther than 10 points behind Bush, a campaign official quietly asked another pollster to check Penn's work. The number came back: Gore down by 18. Penn declined to be interviewed but let it be known through an intermediary that his position is secure."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5434786

<snip>

"The indisputable fact is, Barack Obama was right about Iraq when many of us were wrong," the West Virginia senator said. "It was a tough call and the single greatest national security question - and mistake - of our time. ... What matters most in the Oval Office is sound judgment and decisive action. It's about getting it right on crucial national security questions the first time, and every time."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5438042

[Bucky]

10. What Bad Ass are you talking about?

[elehhhhna]

14. "Bush Administration" sorry I'm using DU shorthand

[ClassWarrior]

16. Or the abuse of the Blank Check for Invasion, or two Extreme Court nominees...

...or about a million other blown opportunities.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

18. .

[BeyondGeography]

19. That would have been bad for business